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	<title>Comments on: Chris Webber to Announce Retirement Wednesday</title>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8146</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I credited TBR I meant Origin. sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8116</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE TBR: That's something the NBA would have to work out with FIBA. It's not a thing the NCAA has any particular jurisdiction over. However if Euros come over to play in the NCAA's they are subject to the same rules as their american counterparts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE TBR: That&#8217;s something the NBA would have to work out with FIBA. It&#8217;s not a thing the NCAA has any particular jurisdiction over. However if Euros come over to play in the NCAA&#8217;s they are subject to the same rules as their american counterparts.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8115</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy mates!

Just got home from doing a double and I have just one thing to say before I take a nap.

C-Webb deserves to be in the HOF. He better get in. Injuries or not he carried the Kings. They added pieces and got better each year but without him they are and were nothing. That's in the wild wild west. The Lakers domination was crazy. They had the perfect mix of young and old talent along with a championship coach. Remember when they beat Tim Duccan's Spurs by like 30pts a game in the playoffs? Yep just as I thought you don't remember. Ok, Ok that was more than 1 thing but I would also like to add that head to head when C-Webb was healthy, he had classic battles with Duncan, Garnett and Dirk don't get it twisted they played each other one on one. They usually cancelled each other out. Again, I'm speaking about his healthy years. I've got many battles on tape. It's a shame the Kings didn't win that year they would have stomped the Nets. Again,they didn't have that mix. Just because you don't win a title doesn't mean your not a winner. I'm going to miss those sweet passes. I think he's goint to be on TNT tonight with Kenny, Ernie and Charles. Ok that's it I'm going to bed. I'll be back up at 10p to do another double. Good night mates!! I know I sound all over the place I'm tired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy mates!</p>
<p>Just got home from doing a double and I have just one thing to say before I take a nap.</p>
<p>C-Webb deserves to be in the HOF. He better get in. Injuries or not he carried the Kings. They added pieces and got better each year but without him they are and were nothing. That&#8217;s in the wild wild west. The Lakers domination was crazy. They had the perfect mix of young and old talent along with a championship coach. Remember when they beat Tim Duccan&#8217;s Spurs by like 30pts a game in the playoffs? Yep just as I thought you don&#8217;t remember. Ok, Ok that was more than 1 thing but I would also like to add that head to head when C-Webb was healthy, he had classic battles with Duncan, Garnett and Dirk don&#8217;t get it twisted they played each other one on one. They usually cancelled each other out. Again, I&#8217;m speaking about his healthy years. I&#8217;ve got many battles on tape. It&#8217;s a shame the Kings didn&#8217;t win that year they would have stomped the Nets. Again,they didn&#8217;t have that mix. Just because you don&#8217;t win a title doesn&#8217;t mean your not a winner. I&#8217;m going to miss those sweet passes. I think he&#8217;s goint to be on TNT tonight with Kenny, Ernie and Charles. Ok that&#8217;s it I&#8217;m going to bed. I&#8217;ll be back up at 10p to do another double. Good night mates!! I know I sound all over the place I&#8217;m tired.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8114</link>
		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okori should these Euro kids who turn pro at age 15 also go to college here in the states to work on their game. Its funny but I don't even know if any of these foreign kids even finish highschool before going pro.

I mean many of these euro players need to work on their ball handling skills and ability to create their own shot. Also lets not forget on learning to play with their back to the basket and play defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okori should these Euro kids who turn pro at age 15 also go to college here in the states to work on their game. Its funny but I don&#8217;t even know if any of these foreign kids even finish highschool before going pro.</p>
<p>I mean many of these euro players need to work on their ball handling skills and ability to create their own shot. Also lets not forget on learning to play with their back to the basket and play defense.</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8110</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jameer was a good freshman, he was a little reigned in because it was Marvin O'Connor's team but he got his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jameer was a good freshman, he was a little reigned in because it was Marvin O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s team but he got his.</p>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8109</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and Jameer had a solid career for his 3 years, and then blew up as a senior. 

Tim: I'd argue that for 90 to 95 percent of the college kids coming out it's... the NCAA. More focused coaching on just them, an increased focus on fundamentals, and the chance to be taught. Plus the longer you can be taught the more you can develop good muscle memory. 

At the NBA level you're expected to be a finished product more or less. And I would establish a committee with mental health professionals, NBA Scouts, and Strength and Conditioning Coaches, to determine the 4 or 6 highschoolers every year who could get a waiver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Jameer had a solid career for his 3 years, and then blew up as a senior. </p>
<p>Tim: I&#8217;d argue that for 90 to 95 percent of the college kids coming out it&#8217;s&#8230; the NCAA. More focused coaching on just them, an increased focus on fundamentals, and the chance to be taught. Plus the longer you can be taught the more you can develop good muscle memory. </p>
<p>At the NBA level you&#8217;re expected to be a finished product more or less. And I would establish a committee with mental health professionals, NBA Scouts, and Strength and Conditioning Coaches, to determine the 4 or 6 highschoolers every year who could get a waiver.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8107</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed.......... that's crazy. keep me tuned in when someone finally creates those separate HOFs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. that&#8217;s crazy. keep me tuned in when someone finally creates those separate HOFs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8104</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jameer Nelson has won more postseason awards for one season than ANY player in NCAA history. 

When you go down the list of talented players that have won postseason awards and to have him sweep them all...that's impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jameer Nelson has won more postseason awards for one season than ANY player in NCAA history. </p>
<p>When you go down the list of talented players that have won postseason awards and to have him sweep them all&#8230;that&#8217;s impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8103</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TBR -- agreed... i guess those are two of the most successful examples... jameer nelson won the naismith but fell short in the elite 8 his senior year... does he go? (i guess i'm looking for that allllllmost but not really kid who would be on the fence)

Okori -- I don't necessarily agree the kids would get a better development on the college level than the pro. Whose assistant coaches and facilities will be better for the kid coming out of high school -- pros or collegiate. Even when you take Kentucky, Duke, UNC into the equation, with their top-tiered facilities, those budding stars should have the right to go into paid NBA internships, where they have access to the finest of what the sport has to offer -- and even better (in the legal sense) the cash is ON the table!

I'm self-interested, though... these one-and-done tourneys are fantastic for the NCAA tourney...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TBR &#8212; agreed&#8230; i guess those are two of the most successful examples&#8230; jameer nelson won the naismith but fell short in the elite 8 his senior year&#8230; does he go? (i guess i&#8217;m looking for that allllllmost but not really kid who would be on the fence)</p>
<p>Okori &#8212; I don&#8217;t necessarily agree the kids would get a better development on the college level than the pro. Whose assistant coaches and facilities will be better for the kid coming out of high school &#8212; pros or collegiate. Even when you take Kentucky, Duke, UNC into the equation, with their top-tiered facilities, those budding stars should have the right to go into paid NBA internships, where they have access to the finest of what the sport has to offer &#8212; and even better (in the legal sense) the cash is ON the table!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m self-interested, though&#8230; these one-and-done tourneys are fantastic for the NCAA tourney&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8094</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he's in TBR. Closer than you'd think but he's in. 

well i think those guys would get in, but it'd be a much harder road than the guys who were at least juniors. 

I also maintain that 99.9 percent of kids coming out of HS could use at least 3 years of major-college ball. Here's why: Different styles of play, the chance to develop good habits as opposed to bad habits, and the resurrection of the NCAA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s in TBR. Closer than you&#8217;d think but he&#8217;s in. </p>
<p>well i think those guys would get in, but it&#8217;d be a much harder road than the guys who were at least juniors. </p>
<p>I also maintain that 99.9 percent of kids coming out of HS could use at least 3 years of major-college ball. Here&#8217;s why: Different styles of play, the chance to develop good habits as opposed to bad habits, and the resurrection of the NCAA</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8093</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony is in - only the third freshman to win Most Outstanding Player of the Tourney.

Durant is in - I believe the only freshman to win National Player of the Year and the Naismith.

They are in if for no more than historical points of reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony is in - only the third freshman to win Most Outstanding Player of the Tourney.</p>
<p>Durant is in - I believe the only freshman to win National Player of the Year and the Naismith.</p>
<p>They are in if for no more than historical points of reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8092</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when someone puts together pennies and creates the NCAA hoops HOF (by itself, no pro or amateur allowed)...... where do the Carmello Anthony's, Kevin Durant's and the soon-to-be-NBA-bound freshman phenoms go? Do they get any recognition? I'm thinking that'd be one of the harder parts about it. We're talking about ranking kids who could've played just through eligibility (finite number) so a lot of the selection is subjective...... and damn if bias won't come into play depending on geographic location and era of competition....... just thinking with my fingertips here.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when someone puts together pennies and creates the NCAA hoops HOF (by itself, no pro or amateur allowed)&#8230;&#8230; where do the Carmello Anthony&#8217;s, Kevin Durant&#8217;s and the soon-to-be-NBA-bound freshman phenoms go? Do they get any recognition? I&#8217;m thinking that&#8217;d be one of the harder parts about it. We&#8217;re talking about ranking kids who could&#8217;ve played just through eligibility (finite number) so a lot of the selection is subjective&#8230;&#8230; and damn if bias won&#8217;t come into play depending on geographic location and era of competition&#8230;&#8230;. just thinking with my fingertips here&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8091</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His raw numbers put him in -- 15 years, averaging 20 points, 4 assists and 9.8 rebounds. Postseason and injuries throughout (heard Legler say it was almost 3 whole seasons Webber missed due to injury) keep doubters alive. In the end, he's in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His raw numbers put him in &#8212; 15 years, averaging 20 points, 4 assists and 9.8 rebounds. Postseason and injuries throughout (heard Legler say it was almost 3 whole seasons Webber missed due to injury) keep doubters alive. In the end, he&#8217;s in.</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8090</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is C-Webb an NBA HOFer?</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8089</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreement all around. this sickens me! ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreement all around. this sickens me! ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8086</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly. just the point I was trying to make. Anyone who starts on a Final Four team his entire collegiate career is a Collegiate HOF. 

Damn you eloquent bastards. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly. just the point I was trying to make. Anyone who starts on a Final Four team his entire collegiate career is a Collegiate HOF. </p>
<p>Damn you eloquent bastards. <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8083</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just clarifies the point that there should be separate HOFs for College and Pro ball. See: NFL</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8081</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great college player but one who falls victim to the majority overhype............ See: Hansborough, Tyler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great college player but one who falls victim to the majority overhype&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; See: Hansborough, Tyler</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8080</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laetnner is a factor of the double-standard of sports hype... and we've seen it more as minorities dominated the pro sports leagues. If a white player does something great, the majorities of the world get HYPED like crazy.... and then you have your laettner/god/chuck norris comparisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laetnner is a factor of the double-standard of sports hype&#8230; and we&#8217;ve seen it more as minorities dominated the pro sports leagues. If a white player does something great, the majorities of the world get HYPED like crazy&#8230;. and then you have your laettner/god/chuck norris comparisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/03/25/chris-webber-to-announce-retirement-wednesday/#comment-8079</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cheese* 

(not related to the "cheese" from The Wire, mind you... damn, METH, damn!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cheese* </p>
<p>(not related to the &#8220;cheese&#8221; from The Wire, mind you&#8230; damn, METH, damn!)</p>
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