Comments on: The Talented Tenth http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/ Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor Thu, 24 May 2012 06:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Allie Bickerton http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-34436 Allie Bickerton Sat, 01 May 2010 19:10:26 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-34436 People are dicks. I feel your frustration, and your struggle, if you do struggle that is... I don't understand it, and this is predominately why I hate most people. Although I never actually hate... I just strongly dislike. I think the most beautiful people in the world are the honest ones, the ones who are hardworking and appreciative, confident but not conceited, genuine, and helpful toward others. I have faith that the world will recognize people for who they really are, and not formulate bias opinions based on stereotypes, race, or religious beliefs; but sadly, this can and will never be attainable because most of the world is like that. It is most unfortunate. Good luck in the future with your writing. :) - Allie People are dicks. I feel your frustration, and your struggle, if you do struggle that is… I don’t understand it, and this is predominately why I hate most people. Although I never actually hate… I just strongly dislike. I think the most beautiful people in the world are the honest ones, the ones who are hardworking and appreciative, confident but not conceited, genuine, and helpful toward others. I have faith that the world will recognize people for who they really are, and not formulate bias opinions based on stereotypes, race, or religious beliefs; but sadly, this can and will never be attainable because most of the world is like that. It is most unfortunate.

Good luck in the future with your writing. :)

- Allie

]]> By: The Starting Five » Blog Archive » We’ve Forgotten Our Negro League Past Part 2: Interview With Senior Writer Justice B. Hill of MLB.com http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8935 The Starting Five » Blog Archive » We’ve Forgotten Our Negro League Past Part 2: Interview With Senior Writer Justice B. Hill of MLB.com Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:36:28 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8935 [...] Those who may not know a lot about baseball, but do have the hunger to want to write about it (cough Anthony Gilbert, [...] [...] Those who may not know a lot about baseball, but do have the hunger to want to write about it (cough Anthony Gilbert, [...]

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8878 michelle Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:44:59 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8878 Anthony Gilbert, Your welcome! You guys are great and we appreciate your voice. Anthony Gilbert,

Your welcome! You guys are great and we appreciate your voice.

]]> By: Anthony Gilbert http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8874 Anthony Gilbert Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:15:34 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8874 Good points Glenn, I'm going to start asking the players to step up for more writers of color. Good points Glenn, I’m going to start asking the players to step up for more writers of color.

]]> By: Glenn http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8812 Glenn Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:29:42 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8812 Anthony, Thanks for this great article. It makes me think of the NFL and their hiring. "shouldn't these strong friendships be rewarded..." It seems like those are the ONLY things that get you a job in NFL, being in the owner's network/radar. So doesn't it translate back to your relationship with the athletes? You'd think even a company like Nike would leverage your relationships and skills to create a new kind of advertising space. Have you asked the players why they don't dictate who they talk to? My guess is that the fear of a backlash would be great. I also guess El Heffe Stern wouldn't like it. I wonder also if the media companies have even thought about. I know large organizations can get stuck in the way they do things. Maybe they never put two and two together. I am rambling, but this will be my last point. Finally, look at 'serious' journalists at 'serious' organizations, they are lying, going to jail, goose stepping, etc... and they are supposed to be the professionals. At this point, I respect and believe what I read here more than anything the NY Times puts out. Anthony, Thanks for this great article. It makes me think of the NFL and their hiring. “shouldn’t these strong friendships be rewarded…” It seems like those are the ONLY things that get you a job in NFL, being in the owner’s network/radar. So doesn’t it translate back to your relationship with the athletes? You’d think even a company like Nike would leverage your relationships and skills to create a new kind of advertising space.

Have you asked the players why they don’t dictate who they talk to? My guess is that the fear of a backlash would be great. I also guess El Heffe Stern wouldn’t like it. I wonder also if the media companies have even thought about. I know large organizations can get stuck in the way they do things. Maybe they never put two and two together.

I am rambling, but this will be my last point. Finally, look at ‘serious’ journalists at ‘serious’ organizations, they are lying, going to jail, goose stepping, etc… and they are supposed to be the professionals. At this point, I respect and believe what I read here more than anything the NY Times puts out.

]]> By: Miranda http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8787 Miranda Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:05:07 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8787 Anthony, You ask - "When I look at my life and all the pro athletes that I have either grown up with, played against, or attended school with…shouldn’t those strong friendships and relationships be rewarded with a writing job? What is the problem?" What is THEIR problem? Fear.......Envy..........Insecurity Then you state: I’m both educated and qualified, and when I apply for a writing job, I am either “over-qualified” or “we’ll call you if something opens up.” "over-qualified" - there is no such thing, its their cop-out for Fear.......Envy......Insecurity Anthony,
You ask – “When I look at my life and all the pro athletes that I have either grown up with, played against, or attended school with…shouldn’t those strong friendships and relationships be rewarded with a writing job? What is the problem?”

What is THEIR problem? Fear…….Envy……….Insecurity

Then you state: I’m both educated and qualified, and when I apply for a writing job, I am either “over-qualified” or “we’ll call you if something opens up.”

“over-qualified” – there is no such thing, its their cop-out for Fear…….Envy……Insecurity

]]> By: Anthony Gilbert http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8786 Anthony Gilbert Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:55:24 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8786 Michelle, I truly appreciate your support of Michael and I! I trust that it will get better before it gets worse. Michelle, I truly appreciate your support of Michael and I! I trust that it will get better before it gets worse.

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8778 michelle Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:51:04 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8778 Anthony Gilbert, I hope so. You guys are good at what you do and should share in the profits. People of color should have some control in this market. It's ridiculous that we don't. We have to do better. Anthony Gilbert,

I hope so. You guys are good at what you do and should share in the profits. People of color should have some control in this market. It’s ridiculous that we don’t. We have to do better.

]]> By: Anthony Gilbert http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8776 Anthony Gilbert Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:33:33 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8776 Michelle, I agree with you point. It is so valid, and to best answer your question, the only thing I can think of is that on one hand the athletes don't seem to understand that they can stand up for journalist of color, and sadly on the other hand, the thought never crosses their mind. I do know one thing, that when Michael and I walk into these arenas and locker rooms, the black athletes are very happy to see and speak with us. Hopefully the tide will turn. Michelle,

I agree with you point. It is so valid, and to best answer your question, the only thing I can think of is that on one hand the athletes don’t seem to understand that they can stand up for journalist of color, and sadly on the other hand, the thought never crosses their mind.

I do know one thing, that when Michael and I walk into these arenas and locker rooms, the black athletes are very happy to see and speak with us.

Hopefully the tide will turn.

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/comment-page-1/#comment-8765 michelle Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:35:36 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/04/09/the-talented-tenth/#comment-8765 Great article. What I don't understand is why the athletes don't demand that there are more journalist of color. With as many star athletes of color running the 3 major sports, I don't understand it. Back in the day when black entertainers such as Josephine Baker would be asked to play a venue with little or no black employess she would demand that blacks be hired or she wouldn't take the gig. Why don't athletes today understand that? Maybe they haven't thought about it or just don't care. With the way many of them are covered I would think they would look to hear a voice that understands them. Great article. What I don’t understand is why the athletes don’t demand that there are more journalist of color. With as many star athletes of color running the 3 major sports, I don’t understand it. Back in the day when black entertainers such as Josephine Baker would be asked to play a venue with little or no black employess she would demand that blacks be hired or she wouldn’t take the gig. Why don’t athletes today understand that? Maybe they haven’t thought about it or just don’t care. With the way many of them are covered I would think they would look to hear a voice that understands them.

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