Get the hell out of here with trying to justify this mess these cops created because it’s not going to wash. This was murder, an execution pure and simple. I hope the Ancestors forgive us as BLACK people for letting this happen again and again because I don’t forgive myself and I’ll never forgive this.

And to this Newb and ‘Eliot’, get the f***k off this board popping that bubble gum shit because you two have a lot of nerve to ask us as BLACK people to mourn for others while no one mourns for us. Take care of yourself and we’ll do the same for ourselves because the love thy enemy mentality died forty years ago in Memphis.

Bastards and everyone that thinks like ‘em

Thandiwe: You just cited Fox News, man. Come on. Did you get that inappropriately-inserted and dismissive blurb from Bill O’Reilly? You want to talk? Then talk. Don’t throw this “wait… what’s that” or “yeah, that’s what I thought” business out there.

Apparently, from what my brother told me, the shooting principles they teach at Langley and have been passed to the state police forces are as follows:

When shooting a car aim for the tires first. disables the car without grievous loss of life. prinicple 1 clearly not followed.

When shooting an assailiant always aim for a non-lethal shot, like to the foot or the lower leg. Principle 2 not followed.

Bottom line…. these cops screwed up something terrible and needed to be brought to justice for those mistakes.

Sankofa, you’re an idiot. It is people like you that are holding black people back. Nobody takes you seriously when you come with that tired black panther bullshit. You are not Chuck D. Grow up. You probably have a white girl, don’t you? Come on, you can tell us.

Thandiwe, your point is clear, Africans cannot be indignant when one of us is crucified. We are expected to feel for others above our own feelings? Do you care about this story and its verdict? The Anglo-Saxon fella got tasered, yeah ot sometimes can result in death. An african got hit 50 times, that always result in death.

Pack your bag and move your ass outta here! if you want to hang around grown folks, pay the proper respect by chilling in the background before you decide to ASK A DAMN QUESTIION!

We’ll keep DavidMac as our resident house Knee-grow, we don’t need a second.

I just wanted to say I posted a video series over at my blog with my “uncle” Khalid Muhammed laying it down for Phil “bitch ass” Donahue and all them suckers who still expect us to suffer silently and morn others pain over ours.

I wish there were more Khalids, Malik Al Shabazzes and Nat Turner in NY right now. Respect is never given by the oppressor, the oppressed always have to earn it.

There were witnesses both outside and inside who were not affiliated with Sean Bell. None of them supported the cops testimony.

Today a 24 year old white man from Chicago died after the cops tasered him while trying to break up a fight in which said white guy was involved. Please let us know when you take up his cause. Wait…what’s that? You only care when this happens to black people, and you thence have cause for righteous indignation? What’s that? You ignore the numerous incidents of police misconduct that occur against people who aren’t black? Yeah, I thought so.

“The people have not proved beyond a reasonable doubt that each defendant was not justified” in shooting the victims, Cooperman said.
About the version of events offered by the victims and other prosecution witnesses, he said, “At times the testimony just didn’t make sense.”
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I think I trust the opinion of the police and a judge over criminals. Not saying it is right, but credibility is a issue for Bell’s friends and those who testified for him.

I do think if the cops are found guilty of breaking rules of the department, the articles said they are performing a review of the police officer’s actions, that the appropriate punishment will take place. I think someone might catch flack for unloading two clips.

I don’t know what the police do up in NYC, but I don’t think this incident happend because the guys were black, mainly because two of the 3 being tried were black, and out of the 5 on scene two more were black/latino and another one was arabic.

Like I said, its a shitty situation and it had a shitty result, but I don’t think anything unfair happend in the legal preceedings.

You keep stating from the police accounts or their witnesses that we should automatically believe them.

Those officers are human too. And I believe they made a mistake. And just like anyone else, they should pay for what they have done instead of getting off.

All that you’ve stated above is from the police’s records. But that doesn’t mean that what they say is EXACTLY how it happened. Maybe they did do something wrong, and in order to come out from it unscathed it was covered up.

Yeah they (police) may have all ready been inside the club, but that has NOTHING to do with Shawn Bell. Period. If he was intoxicated, then that is his problem. But shooting the man 50 times!!!! Whatever happened to disabliing the vehicle if he tried to drive off? Again, only the police’s witnesses claim that Bell tried to run them over. Why should we take their word and ignore that of the other side?

You say that police don’t target African American males, maybe so, but it is a lot easier for them to be more lienit (sp) on following procedure when it comes to African American males. Trust, and you KNOW it happens everyday. It’s so much easier to focus in on what we MAY be doing, regardless of the truth or not. And once it is uncovered that the police are wrong….they face NO REPROCUSSIONS. That is my whole problem with this…flat out. That is the message that is sent to the public with the growing amount of situations and verdicts that run on this line.

As for inside the club, again only one witness contradicted the accounts inside the club and that was one of Bell’s friends inside the car.

———-Police Account of Events———–

As the club closed around 4 a.m., Sanchez and Isnora claimed they overheard Bell and his friends first flirt with women, then taunt a stranger who responded by putting his right hand in his pocket as if he had a gun. Guzman, they testified, said, “Yo, go get my gun” — something Bell’s friends denied.

Isnora said he decided to arm himself, call for backup — “It’s getting hot,” he told his supervisor — and tail Bell, Guzman and Benefield as they went around the corner and got into Bell’s car. He claimed that after warning the men to halt, Bell pulled away, bumped him and rammed an unmarked police van that converged on the scene with Oliver at the wheel.

The detective also alleged that Guzman made a sudden move as if he were reaching for a gun.

“I yelled ‘Gun!’ and fired,” he said. “In my mind, I knew (Guzman) had a gun.”

Benefield and Guzman testified that there were no orders. Instead, Guzman said, Isnora “appeared out of nowhere” with a gun drawn and shot him in the shoulder — the first of 16 shots to enter his body.

“That’s all there was — gunfire,” he said. “There wasn’t nothing else.”

With tires screeching, glass breaking and bullets flying, the officers claimed that they believed they were the ones under fire. Oliver responded by emptying his semiautomatic pistol, reloading, and emptying it again, as the supervisor dived for cover.

The truth emerged when the smoke cleared: There was no weapon inside Bell’s blood-splattered car.
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Doesn’t seem like they are trying to cover anything up, its just a messed up situation.

None of the other witnesses in the trial heard the cops identify themselves before they started shooting.

None of the other witnesses heard Bell’s group threaten to get a gun when they left the club.

So I’m guessing we are not in 2008, because this sets us back a few hundred years.