Comments on: NBA On TNT Playoff Notes: “I hate to see Avery Johnson (get fired) but coaches are going to get fired.” http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/ Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:06:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10235 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 21:03:36 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10235 If they are stuck with Kidd, the need to bring in a PG who could learn from him. I think Dirk definantly has to be traded if they want a future. If they are stuck with Kidd, the need to bring in a PG who could learn from him. I think Dirk definantly has to be traded if they want a future.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10231 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 20:23:31 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10231 I'm speaking about Kidd I’m speaking about Kidd

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10230 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 20:22:29 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10230 He'll be in Dallas for sure next season. He’ll be in Dallas for sure next season.

]]> By: Jerold Wells Jr http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10228 Jerold Wells Jr Thu, 01 May 2008 20:19:54 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10228 I would David for a couple of reasons. I don't believe in can't miss prospects but I think Derrick Rose is as close to one as there has been in the last few years. He has the potential to help them compete in this era of NBA basketball. Also I'm not sure how much better they can get with Dirk as the unquestioned leader and premier player on that team. I would David for a couple of reasons. I don’t believe in can’t miss prospects but I think Derrick Rose is as close to one as there has been in the last few years. He has the potential to help them compete in this era of NBA basketball. Also I’m not sure how much better they can get with Dirk as the unquestioned leader and premier player on that team.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10227 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 20:18:35 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10227 My bad wrong thread. Kidd has one year left on his contract at $21.37 million. My bad wrong thread.

Kidd has one year left on his contract at $21.37 million.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10226 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 20:16:09 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10226 Actually Whitlock shouts TSF out in a good way. ;) "I scan deadspin two or three times a week. It is not representative of all (or even most) blogs. Romenesko, thebiglead, profootballtalk, joeposnanski, thestartingfive.wordpress, joesportsfan and AOL's fanhouse are just a few of the blogs less dedicated to humiliation and self-book-promotion than deadspin." He does shout out the old name though. Actually Whitlock shouts TSF out in a good way. ;)

“I scan deadspin two or three times a week. It is not representative of all (or even most) blogs. Romenesko, thebiglead, profootballtalk, joeposnanski, thestartingfive.wordpress, joesportsfan and AOL’s fanhouse are just a few of the blogs less dedicated to humiliation and self-book-promotion than deadspin.”

He does shout out the old name though.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10223 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 19:56:50 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10223 Where is Kidd at in his contract? Where is Kidd at in his contract?

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10222 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 19:49:19 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10222 Carlisle is the best option I see now that Larry Brown is taken. If D'Antonni is fired they might make a move with him, they'll have to bench Dampier and Kidd though, since they slow them down. Carlisle is the best option I see now that Larry Brown is taken. If D’Antonni is fired they might make a move with him, they’ll have to bench Dampier and Kidd though, since they slow them down.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10220 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 19:40:30 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10220 It may be Rick Carlisle. It may be Rick Carlisle.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10217 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 19:31:30 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10217 I think Dallas should have made a run for Larry Brown, I like the system he runs. I think Dallas should have made a run for Larry Brown, I like the system he runs.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10214 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 19:19:34 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10214 Their failure to commit to defense had been their downfall for years. Their philosophy was to outrun and outgun the opponent...doesn't work anymore. I'm convinced that the Spurs have the blueprint for success. Their failure to commit to defense had been their downfall for years. Their philosophy was to outrun and outgun the opponent…doesn’t work anymore.

I’m convinced that the Spurs have the blueprint for success.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10213 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 19:16:47 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10213 I don't know Jerold, would you want to get rid of a known good commidity for the unknown prospect? I don’t know Jerold, would you want to get rid of a known good commidity for the unknown prospect?

]]> By: Inkognegro http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10212 Inkognegro Thu, 01 May 2008 19:16:12 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10212 David, This aint my team. I moved here 4 years ago and they were on TV. Ive never really had a team in the NBA, I was a Wizards fan when I was in MD and i figured I would root for the Mavericks since I am here to stay. But Ill be damned if Ima let Cuban turn me into some kind of abused fan. Now when I come and talk about "Im through with the Steelers" you can ask me that. Cuban had a chance to EARN a fan....and he failed. David,

This aint my team. I moved here 4 years ago and they were on TV. Ive never really had a team in the NBA, I was a Wizards fan when I was in MD and i figured I would root for the Mavericks since I am here to stay.

But Ill be damned if Ima let Cuban turn me into some kind of abused fan.

Now when I come and talk about “Im through with the Steelers” you can ask me that.

Cuban had a chance to EARN a fan….and he failed.

]]> By: Jerold Wells Jr http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10211 Jerold Wells Jr Thu, 01 May 2008 19:10:31 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10211 First things first. Destroy and rebuild it. Cuban needs to wait until the lottery and see who gets the first pick then make Dirk and whoever else the team wants the centerpiece for a deal to get Derrick Rose. The league is becoming one in which players who that dominate with the ball in thier hands are damn near unstoppble. (i.e. chris paul, tony parker, deron williams, to a greater extent kobe, lebron, d wade) Secondly, this wasn't Avery's fault and I'm sorry he's the fall man for the teams failures. This team never really showed a committment to the defensive end. Also, once Harris left they morphed into a collection of jump shooters. You can't win in the playoffs if you can't score in the paint, keep the ball out of the paint and rebound in the paint. None of those are strong points for the Mavericks. First things first. Destroy and rebuild it. Cuban needs to wait until the lottery and see who gets the first pick then make Dirk and whoever else the team wants the centerpiece for a deal to get Derrick Rose. The league is becoming one in which players who that dominate with the ball in thier hands are damn near unstoppble. (i.e. chris paul, tony parker, deron williams, to a greater extent kobe, lebron, d wade)

Secondly, this wasn’t Avery’s fault and I’m sorry he’s the fall man for the teams failures. This team never really showed a committment to the defensive end. Also, once Harris left they morphed into a collection of jump shooters. You can’t win in the playoffs if you can’t score in the paint, keep the ball out of the paint and rebound in the paint. None of those are strong points for the Mavericks.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10208 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 18:57:27 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10208 He definitely realizes that changes have to be made and maybe Dirk is part of that equation. I'm surprised that he kept things pretty much the same after The Finals against Miami. He may go after Ron Artest -- wouldn't shock me. He definitely realizes that changes have to be made and maybe Dirk is part of that equation. I’m surprised that he kept things pretty much the same after The Finals against Miami. He may go after Ron Artest — wouldn’t shock me.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10207 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 18:52:24 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10207 I don't know TBR, Cuban has to know that the team needs an overhaul. No way can I see him continuing down the road he is on, if he does he will end up like PHX old with nothing to trade to get better quickly. I don’t know TBR, Cuban has to know that the team needs an overhaul. No way can I see him continuing down the road he is on, if he does he will end up like PHX old with nothing to trade to get better quickly.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10206 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 18:38:23 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10206 I think the ship will go down w/Dirk on it, he'll listen to the Mavs' fans beg them to trade him for 2 good players but he's stubborn enough to keep him. I think the ship will go down w/Dirk on it, he’ll listen to the Mavs’ fans beg them to trade him for 2 good players but he’s stubborn enough to keep him.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10203 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:15 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10203 I would trade Dirk to some team for a couple of young up and comers. Trade Dirk while he has value, get rid o Stackhouse, Jones, and Dampier. Build the team around Terry, Howard, and Bass. I would trade Dirk to some team for a couple of young up and comers. Trade Dirk while he has value, get rid o Stackhouse, Jones, and Dampier. Build the team around Terry, Howard, and Bass.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10201 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 18:23:39 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10201 I'm dying to see who's gonna survive the fallout other than Dirk. I wonder if Cuban is second guessing the potential deal for Kobe back in late October. I’m dying to see who’s gonna survive the fallout other than Dirk. I wonder if Cuban is second guessing the potential deal for Kobe back in late October.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10196 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 18:13:27 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10196 Wow Inkog, you jumping ship on your team like that? Wow Inkog, you jumping ship on your team like that?

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10194 thebrotherreport Thu, 01 May 2008 18:01:07 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10194 Inkog - Look no further, there's plenty of room on the 76er wagon, I'm extending an invitation to you. Inkog - Look no further, there’s plenty of room on the 76er wagon, I’m extending an invitation to you.

]]> By: Inkognegro http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10191 Inkognegro Thu, 01 May 2008 17:49:28 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10191 Dallas is a flawed team. They were flawed when they went to the finals. If The Mavs had stood pat they would still be playing. Or at least they would have a future. A Better coach for THIS team? What difference would it make. They wont make the playoffs next year. IDGAF WHO the coach is. New Jersey will. But they won't. Cuban thinks this team is a coach away from the championship. I find his basketball acumen suspect. If i have heard it ONCE i have heard it a THOUSAND times... A. dont trade Young for Old B. Dont trade Big for Small. The Mavericks did BOTH and NOW they wont even have their lottery pick from when they DONT make the playoffs next year. Now if you excuse me...ill be somewhere looking for a new Favorite NBA team. Dallas is a flawed team.

They were flawed when they went to the finals.

If The Mavs had stood pat they would still be playing. Or at least they would have a future.

A Better coach for THIS team? What difference would it make.

They wont make the playoffs next year. IDGAF WHO the coach is.

New Jersey will. But they won’t.

Cuban thinks this team is a coach away from the championship.

I find his basketball acumen suspect.

If i have heard it ONCE i have heard it a THOUSAND times…

A. dont trade Young for Old
B. Dont trade Big for Small.

The Mavericks did BOTH and NOW they wont even have their lottery pick from when they DONT make the playoffs next year.

Now if you excuse me…ill be somewhere looking for a new Favorite NBA team.

]]> By: DavidMac http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10173 DavidMac Thu, 01 May 2008 16:08:36 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/01/nba-on-tnt-playoff-notes-i-hate-to-see-avery-johnson-get-fired-but-coaches-are-going-to-get-fired/#comment-10173 Charles was right, he also brought up a great point of their playoff record, 24 -25 under Avery, that is terrible. Charles was right, he also brought up a great point of their playoff record, 24 -25 under Avery, that is terrible.

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