I AM THE GREATEST

Malcolm X, and Cassius X

Muhammad Ali embodies pride and enthusiasm. He is an icon both in the ring, and out. From his Light Heavyweight Gold-medal in the 1960 Olympic games, and the first match with Sonny Liston, to his “I ain’t got no quarrel with them Viet Cong…they never called me nigger”, statement he is truly the people’s champion.

As a pugilist he fought more for his rights and the rights of his people than against any ranked opponent, however he is recognized as one of the best, if not the greatest boxer of “all-time”. Muhammad Ali wore adidas when he trained and boxed, and in 2004 the company with the 3-stripes honored him in a 60-second campaign, that was one for the ages.

<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=iO-UhicUy3g">http://youtube.com/watch?v=iO-UhicUy3g</a>

Their are are few commercials on my resume and I, wish that I could have thought of or worked on this one. It both embraces the past, and showcases the future (Laila Ali, Beckham, McGrady, etc.) with an Impossible is Nothing message. Having Ali, as the pitchman, impossible is as much nothing, as it is non existent.

muhammad_ali_07 I AM THE GREATEST

Peace, AXG

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63 Responses to “I AM THE GREATEST”

  1. DavidMac Says:

    I respect Ali’s accomplishments in the ring, but he gets no love from me by being a coward and refusing to serve his country.

    Joe Louis is a true example of how all people should act towards this great nation, not Ali.

  2. thebrotherreport Says:

    And for all of his service to “his country” how did “this great nation” reward him?

  3. DavidMac Says:

    Joe Louis is broke because he mismanaged his money, that was his fault and he accepted it, that is why he did the things he did to pay it off. AFter all that he still loved his country and never said anything to deminish her, unlike Ali, who loved US life and US money but was scared to fight for the life he enjoyed.

  4. Anthony Gilbert Says:

    Ali won a gold medal for the USA, and was mistreated in his native Kentucky. He later failed the draft board requirements, and then after the USA saw that he had power as the World Heavyweight Champion, and as a member of the Nation of Islam, it was then when he “passed” the requirements to serve and fight in Vietnam.

    I find that interesting. What is more interesting is that Muhammad Ali is on the banner of The Starting Five (throwing a strong left jab, in boxing known as a number 2), so ANYONE that has a problem with him, should naturally have a problem with ANYTHING on this site… and I figured that via deductive reasoning.

  5. thebrotherreport Says:

    No disrespect to Joe Louis, Jesse Owens, or Jackie Robinson. But for all they’ve done to promote the Black Athlete as well as the Black Race, they’ve equally hurt themselves because for whatever reason they held on to this slave mentality by speaking out against Ali, John Carlos, Tommie Smith, Harry Edwards and others looked to change the status quo. Men that were looking to be seen for more than just what they did on the playing field.

    And I understand that everyone isn’t cut out to trouble the waters but don’t stand in the way or diminish progress when you see it. Again, I mean no disrespect to those men, they’ve made wonderful contributions to us. But I can’t agree when you speak out negatively to someone of the same color looking to make a change.

  6. thebrotherreport Says:

    Relax AG, I got this one!

  7. DavidMac Says:

    TBR, the had different views of how to change things.

    The old school guys like Owens, Robinson, and Louis opened the door for the more radical people like Ali and his ilk, because they presented approachable people that bridged the gap between whites and blacks. All Ali and the people of his ilk did was make loud noise and scare whites away from blacks.

    I am not going to say that their actions caused nothing, but their actions only took effect because white Americans had become accustomed to seeing the better, more civil, side of black society through Owens, Louis, and etc.

    I am not downing Ali for speaking out against what he saw, I don’t like the way he did it. I do respect him as a man for talking down about Joe Louis in public the way he did, as well as the way he talked down about Floyd Patterson. I will never respect the man because he is a hypocrite, he had no problem living the good life in America, spending his money, chasing womens, but he wouldn’t even stand up for the nation that allowed him to live the lifestyle he cherised, a lifestyle he would not have if it was not for the likes of the Joe Louiss, Jackie Robinsons, and Jesse Owens that he loved to disrespect and put down in the public.

  8. Temple3 Says:

    DavidCrack:

    He wasn’t a full citizen at the time he declined to serve in the war. He was a member of a caste that had not received the full benefits of citizenship; did not enjoy the franchise (aka the right to vote); and was subject to all manner of legal and contractual infringements by state and federal government. There was no valid basis for the US to impose its draft obligations for citizens on members of this caste group. There was a normative basis - the US had the power to impose its will. Hence, Ali served a jail sentence.

    If you want to give head to the oppressors of your own people, you should have the decency to get a room - and spare us the public spectacle of your House Negro Slurp Fest.

  9. DavidMac Says:

    Temple3, take that nigger talk to someone who is buying it. Cassius Clay/ Muhammed Ali was/is a US Citizen his whole life.

  10. thebrotherreport Says:

    Civil??? Ali was civil, so were Smith, Carlos and Edwards. They weren’t violent in any way. Guilt made White people afraid they knew full well what they were doing and expected the majority of Blacks to remain docile and “civil” as it had been before.

    Ali was probably the most approachable man in history other than Christ himself. You don’t become the one of the world’s most recognizable figures by being a jerk.

    It’s funny how as troubled as the world was back then,the only people in the world that had a problem with Ali not joining the military were the people in America.

    Ali didn’t just jump on these men they spoke out against him initially. Robinson said that “He should do the right thing as an American” What!

    Years later Robinson would say that he was wrong and should’ve understood more about Ali’s plight.

  11. Temple3 Says:

    “I will never respect the man because he is a hypocrite, he had no problem living the good life in America, spending his money, chasing womens, but he wouldn’t even stand up for the nation that allowed him to live the lifestyle he cherised, a lifestyle he would not have if it was not for the likes of the Joe Louiss, Jackie Robinsons, and Jesse Owens that he loved to disrespect and put down in the public.”

    Jack Johnson lived that lifestyle- BEFORE Louis, Robinson and Owens. Of course, Johnson didn’t have the support network or other resources that served Ali, but the doors which Ali walked through were not merely opened by integrationist spokespersons like Louis, Robinson and Owens. They were opened by Black men whose work and names may have been eliminated from your formative discussions precisely because they were not born to make “whites” feel safe. Ali is the heir to multiple traditions. To suggest that his debt to Louis, Robinson and Owens is greater than it is to Garvey, Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X is to miss the point.

    Missing the point, however, is what you do on a regular basis. It’s uncanny.

  12. Temple3 Says:

    What do YOU mean by “nigger talk”? I can’t wait to hear this - straight from the porch.

  13. Temple3 Says:

    Dumber than a box of rocks and the nerve to talk shit too. You musta got that ass whoooped on a regla for years.

  14. thebrotherreport Says:

    Temple - I finished Unforgivable Blackness about a month ago. Def a worthwhile read.

  15. Temple3 Says:

    I’ll have to do that. Thanks.

    Maybe someone else will take a moment to school your boy DCrack on the differences between FULL citizenship and NEGRO citizenship in the 1950s and 1960s. It should be a wonderful conversation. He might even learn a thing or two about the, um, what did they call that thing…oh yeah, THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

  16. thebrotherreport Says:

    I’ve spent too much energy name calling and trying to sway a grown man’s thinking. I’ve got to channel my energy to preventing less of his ilk.

  17. DavidMac Says:

    TBR, by civil I meant no out yelling and going to all the rallies and such, but simply leading by example, like Louis.

    Loius and the guys of his era, endured more shit than Ali and his era ever dreamed of, yet Lous acted with class and defended his nation during wartimes. Ali could have been quiet with his talking down of America until after the war. The fact was his country needed him and he turned his back on it, and that is shameful. He can say whatever he wants and you can defend him all you want, but the fact is he turned his back on his own nation and tried to make himself seem like a victim because of it, when other blacks who endured more than he did took a stand to defend their nation.

  18. thebrotherreport Says:

    So for someone/anyone to speak on the fact that Blacks couldn’t vote, were gettin hosed and sicced on by dogs and killed by the police deserved to be put on the back burner til after the war.

    He only did to America what America had done to him.

  19. GAM Says:

    I think David Mac is a plant to spark discussion. It never fails. Now I know my share of conservative brothers, but none who just flat out make incendiary statements straight from the Limbaugh playbook.

    Ali a coward? Come on man. I know you don’t believe that. I don’t think a black man in America is obligated to hold conservative or liberal views, but I DO KNOW that no black man who is over the age of 15 has any right to call the man a coward. This is not subjective. It’s like calling Lawrence Taylor a good role model. It’s just not on the table.

  20. Mizzo Says:

    A plant from whom GAM? Have you noticed I’ve stayed out of this discussion because I don’t want to be rushed to the hospital with Michelle, Carolyn, Delinda and Miranda taking my blood pressure and administering BP meds from the back of an ambulance?

  21. DavidMac Says:

    In the US blacks could vote since reconstruction. Ali, living up north, could vote how he wanted. In the South, movements were already in place and people were all ready acting to get the right to vote in their states, the passage of the Voting Rights Act helped, but he was hardly the spearhead of the movement and he did nothing to rally congressmen to pass it.

    Did Ali get dogs sicced on him? No. My dad’s brother did, he still served his time in the army when he number came up, so did my dad. My teacher in high school, who actually lived in the Delta area in MS, served his country when his number came up. They all lived through worse than Ali but all felt obligated to defend their country and put their life on the line.

    Why? What had America done for them? America gave them opportunity. America provided them freedom, opportunity, and a lifestyle that could not be matched by any other nation of the world and most of all America was their country. Those Vietnamese would have shot Ali’s ass just as quick as a white man.

    Fact is he was a coward, now if you look up to cowardice more power to you. I don’t I look up to men who do the right thing even if their country is shitting on them. Joe Louis is one of those men, Crispus Attucks was one of those men, Eddie Crook, Jr. was one of those men, a US boxer who went to the 1960 Olympics with Ali and then cam back home, got drafted and served with distinction in the military.

  22. Mizzo Says:

    Politicians who lie, steal and cheat to serve an agenda do not represent America in a pseudo Utopian sense.

    They sure as hell didn’t represent Blacks and for the most part still don’t.

    Can we please get past that?

    That bullshit has nothing to do with being a proud American it’s just what the suckas bow down to to stay in the sheep line just to make “wool”

    “I don’t I look up to men who do the right thing even if their country is shitting on them”

    Funny shit…really funny shit. It’s like die nigger die in a war and then we won’t properly honor your Black ass until your grandchildren are old and grey…

    When Blacks have a reason to be patriotic then we will be.

    That’s my opinion.

  23. AXG Says:

    Cassius Clay failed the same draft board, that Muhammad Ali passed with flying colors. Why is that?

    Also has anyone ever heard of COINTELPRO, I think it “explains” our friend.

  24. Temple3 Says:

    Fact is he was a coward, now if you look up to cowardice more power to you. I don’t I look up to men who do the right thing even if their country is shitting on them.

    Aside from the fact that the charge of declining to fight a war is not proof of cowardice, there is the very real matter that the very men you slurp most fondly have dodged without regard to principle. W. and Cheney dodged for years - and yet you still bow down at the temple.

    How are those chains today? Tight?

  25. DavidMac Says:

    AXG:

    Ali failed the US Armed Forces qualifying test in 1964 because his writing skills did not measure up. In 1966 those qualification were revised (for everyone) and his scores then made him eligible for the draft. Thats why he was eligible later.

    He knew they were not going to put him in battle but use him to increase the troop morale of his fellow countrymen, but he was a coward. When he was notified that he was eligible, he then turns muslim and says he can’t fight because its against his religion, a religion that he wasn’t with until he was trying to weasel out of serving his country.

    Ali as a man was a coward, plain and simple.

  26. Temple3 Says:

    In the US blacks could vote since reconstruction.

    Technically this statement is misleading and just plain stupid…but it’s all Mac, all the time. Perhaps you can clarify for people why you made such a dumb ass statement when you could certainly have framed this issue correctly.

    Come on fat ass - do some work and clean this up. Explain to folks why this statement is misleading given the context of our conversation.

  27. Temple3 Says:

    Ali was not afraid of going to battle. He was afraid of [fill in the blank].

    Go on dumb dumb. We don’t have all day. Cowards must be afraid of something. If it was not battle, what was it?

  28. DavidMac Says:

    Temple3, he was afraid of giving up the good life. Thats easy.

  29. thebrotherreport Says:

    Don’t try to sell these men off as martyrs who chose to go for the love of their country, I’m pretty damn sure that not every one went to war (ESPECIALLY BLACKS) because they felt an obligation to this country.

    For most Blacks it was either go or face jail or worse.

  30. Okori Says:

    and from a purely a-political perspective the argument could be made that Ali was never the greatest.

  31. DavidMac Says:

    For everyone one called it was go or face jail time, what is your point?

    For the people who did go, they served their country came to her aid. They could have dodged and ran away, but they didn’t, they fulfilled their obligation.

  32. Temple3 Says:

    And so you choose the word “coward.” That’s an interesting choice. It’s clearly not the best choice of word - but I suspect that you were initially either trying to say something different OR you were making someone else’s argument (possibly your dad’s). It’s probably an argument you’ve heard for decades.

    I don’t find it compelling because the options are:
    1) Give up the good life temporarily - do a quick tour - come back a hero and live the good life.

    2) Give up the good life - go to jail. Relinquish your belts - lose prime fighting years in your career and risk your shot at legacy. Be branded a traitor or coward or worse. Face death threats at home - to you and family members (still residing UP NORTH IN LOUISVILLE - LOL).

    Hmm. Let’s see. He went with option 2.

    Well, this is why I always ask you to make your case…because WHENEVER you answer questions directly, you reveal the stupidity of your original position. Thanks. I’m done.

    You can leave your pithy “last word” comment. Make it good.

  33. sankofa Says:

    “Blessed are those who struggle, oppression is worse than the grave, it’s better to live and die a free man, than to live your life a slave.”

    Instead of playing the dozens on your funky monkey ass, Cousin Ruckus, I am a pour some verbal milk for the worthy. You on the other hand funky monkey…it’s just pearls at swine’s feet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yde9HZXSRU&feature=related

  34. thebrotherreport Says:

    So continue to endure all the BS for the supposed “greater good” and serve my country proudly come back home and get shitted on…yeah that’s the ticket.

  35. DavidMac Says:

    Ali’s actions speak for themselves. He would rather do the easy thing and get praise from the brothas, than do the right thing. He was a coward, he ran from committment to his country and did so by hiding behind any religion he could find that would allow him to do so. Then to further drag down his pathetic character, he bad mouthed those who paved the way for him so that he could be what he ended up being, a superstar.

    Ali will never measure up to men such as Louis and Robinson, who did what was right for their country, even though their country treated them wrongly. They took the actions that plant the seeds for change, not some loud mouth, arrogant, coward.

  36. thebrotherreport Says:

    If that was the case Ali could’ve stuck to his Christian roots and used the Commandment #5 or #6 (depending on who you are) “Thou Shalt not kill” as his out.

    But since he chose to commit a religion that spit in the face of the Freedom Oppressor Amerikkka had a problem with that.

  37. DavidMac Says:

    TBR, The 6th commandment is correctly translated into “Thou Shalt not murder” , kill is the wrong translation. That being said serving as a soldier is not a sin in Christianity, so he would have no basis.

    Ali took the easy way out screwing around with the NoI, guys and that is all their is to it, hell NoI isn’t really Islam anyway its nothing more than a Black KKK.

  38. MODI Says:

    Surprise, surprise: DMac hijacks another post…

    Thank you Temple, the “coward” and “give up the good life” statement are absurd. As you state in option #2 he clearly gave up the good life. And when he did, he had no idea if he could ever fight again and was denied a passport.

    BTW, what did Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, and Ali have in common: screwed by the government… I know DMac, JJ should have never taken a white woman across state lines… he had it comin’!

  39. DavidMac Says:

    MODI , well the resident white boy trying to be down is back. Like I said Ali was scared of giving up the good life. He just wanted to box and keep getting paid top dollar, Ali was hardly struggling in during his “exile” while he was touring the college circuit as a paid speaker and getting money from his restaurant and from rich friends. Yeah that is hard life alright, my ass it is.

    BTW what did Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, and Ray Robinson have in common, all of them mismanaged their money. Tragic for 3 out of the 4, just deserts for the coward.

  40. GAM Says:

    Mizzo,

    I was kidding. I have the uptmost respect for your integrity on this blog. I just find the idea that a Black man is a coward for taking action that caused him to incur the rath of a nation. I just find it incredulous that a black man could EVER be called a coward for refusing to fight for a country that (at that moment in history) saw him as less of a man.

    DavidMac,

    The whole Social contract thing is a two way street. I make a social contract with my system of government/politics, but as someone familiar with the law, I can assure you that contracts bourne out of coercion are un enforceable. We didn’t agree to shit, and certainly didn’t receive equal benefit from our government, so explain to me why Ali, or any black man owed the US or its Army a damn thing back then.

  41. thebrotherreport Says:

    I realize there is a difference between a killing and a murder and murder may even be more appropriate for The 10 Commandments. I just chose to use the word kill.

  42. DavidMac Says:

    Why don’t citizens of this country owe the country anything?

    Ali was able to make more money than any other boxer at the time, why? He was the best boxer in the US, the US gave him access to the richest market in the world and he reaped the benefits. The US provided him security from foreign invasion, granted him access to government services as well. He could vote, he could eat in restuarants with whites. He didn’t have dogs sicced on him, he wasn’t stopped from voting in his life. He didn’t have to worry about being killed and no one giving a damn because he was black, he didn’t have to worry about that like the older blacks WHO DID SERVE there country did.

    All US citizen benefit from being Americans, they did back then in his time and they do today. He was simply a loud mouth coward who got his way because of liberal media and politicking. He should have gone to jail.

    Like I said before, his weakness as a person is further compounded by the contempt and disdain he showed for the people who took real shit so he could get to the position where he could talk out like he did, without repercussion. Ali as a person is a piece of shit. I get angry the more I think about the guy and how he publicly shit on Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. People who really helped blacks make positive strides in the US, while he was nothing but a puppet for the NoI aka Black KKK.

  43. Temple3 Says:

    Americoons Unite.

  44. DavidMac Says:

    Temple3, I pity stupid niggers like yourself. Must be tough living in a world where you think someone is always out to get you or that you are privy to some secret knowledge that no one in the world has access to and that no one will believe.

    :)

    Pretty sad.

  45. Mizzo Says:

    Game recognizes GAM bruh…I feel you.

  46. MODI Says:

    America did not grant Ali access to wealth: his fists did despite Amercia that was 1940’s-1950’s Louisville Kentucky. If Ingemar Johanson had Ali’s hand speed, foot speed, and chin, he would have had an incredibly charmed life too. For a world-class boxer not from Cuba, your place of citizenship is almost incidental.

    As for Louis and Patterson, the back and forth was a two-way street and you know that — please stop. But that fact is really immaterial as all champions could be appreciated for what they brought to the table given the circumstances of their day. It should be no surprise that this happens. All generations are different from the previous ones for good reason — the world has changed. I don’t know why this rule would be any different for black heavyweight champions facing intense prejudice.

  47. Temple3 Says:

    You’ve used that word twice today.

    You must be feeling PARTICULARLY IMPOTENT today. What’s that all about? The last time we danced at TSF, you were ranting on and on about “I don’t care what you say (or think)” to various posters. I knew then that you were being ignored or summarily dismissed by people close to you.

    Are these family members, significant others, co-workers?

    Who is telling DavidCrack to Go Fuck Yourself?

    Sure, I do it - but it’s because I know you’re a disgruntled, quasi-postal coon with an axe to grind. Why do they do it? Is it because you’re a disgruntled under achiever in the midst of a long-standing family argument? Can convince your woman to stay in Mi-Crooked Letter? What’s wrong papi?

  48. Temple3 Says:

    I think the MAC is falling apart at the seams. Unraveling right before our very eyes.

  49. DavidMac Says:

    MODI, yes the US did grant Ali access to wealth, he could be the best boxer but if no one wanted to see you fight they would not buy tickets and you would not be given a shot. The American people made him a rich man, period, that is the way boxing always worked, so he owes at least that to this nation.

    As for Loius and Patterson, they did not deserve the talk that Ali spewed towards them. As for the generation being better, I doubt that, America would be better off now if blacks were more like Louis, Patterson, and Schuylers or yester year than the state we are in today.

    Temple3, try again, you failed at your last post just like you have failed in life.

  50. TheLastPoet Says:

    While you all have ONCE AGAIN allowed the Jolly Nigger to hijack YET ANOTHER post, something important has been lost: AXG’s initial comment affirmed that Ali was the “people’s champion.” This claim is undisputable. Due to his stance on the war in Vietnam among other things, Ali transcended the wretched and dying American pathos in order to become a hero to millions of Black, brown, and yellow people the world over.

    The shortsighted and ridiculous point that Jolly Nigger insists upon making is moot: For Ali, “defending” America was never a priority and was never a key to his worldwide popularity. He was a hero to Africans, Asians, Latinos, etc long before he was even tolerated here, which, given the turbulence of the times and the depravity of U.S. foreign policy, was exactly how it should have been.

    What America, following the French, was doing in Vietnam was indefensible, so fuck em. Ali gave consciencious people everywhere of every shape and hue - and whether American born or not - a way to see beyond yesterday’s pathetic white supremacist imperialist patriotic jingoism, which (unfortunately) is still being vomited up from the gullet of pigs like Jolly Nigger Dave. We stab it with our steel-y knives, but we just can’t slay the beast!

    Listen, yall, let the beast wallow in his own shit. I keep telling you, leave him be. His purpose, as always, is to drive you off course. Shid, it ain’t even fun to call him names anymore. But I damn sure won’t waste any brain cells trying to reason with the Jolly Nigger. Dammit, let a hoe be a hoe, how many times do I gotta tell you?

    And to you, Dave The Jolly Nigger, you black summumabitch LOL! Ayo, shut the fuck up and just keep it moving. Seriously, there’s nothing for you to see here…

  51. MODI Says:

    DMac, I don’t have time or really care to dig it up right now, but Ali was antagonized by Louis and Patterson first and retaliated. Since nobody could match verbal blows with Ali, it always looked one-sided. But the reality was different. I really don’t feel like belaboring this point anymore, but I just want to set the record straight which you are distorting as one-sided.

    Are you suggesting that an equally skilled Ali who was born in say, France or Argentina would not have had their country behind them? Other countries have historically had a much less of a problem setting up a fight with black boxers. Going back, I would argue that if ANY black boxer was born abroad, then they would be better off. Black boxers ONLY flourished because it was an international sport. Same with other ethnicities…

    If Tommy Burns isn’t Canadian (and the fight isn’t in Australia), then Jack Johnson probably never gets a shot at the title. He then is forced to fight abroad for many years where he was treated better than in America. Senegal’s Battling Siki gets a light heavy title shot in the 1920s because a Frenchman (carpentier) gives it to him. Meanwhile Harry Wills never gets a shot becausee Dempsey does not fight any black opponents… Was Wills also lucky to be American? …The only reason Louis gets one is because he followed a 10 step sub-human process and was pimped by Jimmy Braddock for 10% of his career paycheck just to get a title shot (Mr. Cinderella Man my ass). If boxing wasn’t international, the course of history would change. Bottom line: From the 1960’s on down Johnson, Wills, Louis, and Ali would have been personally better off being born abroad assuming their skills were the same… not to mention Sam Langford, Sam Mcvey, and Joe Jeanette… shit, we can take this concept back 100 other years to Tom Molineaux…

    This is not to suggest that racism wasn’t rampant abroad, but moreso that in America you had less chance to even get a title shot. All that is to say that Ali would have sold out arenas no matter where he was born… and he would have also had his prime three years back… and there is a lot of evidence that the switching of the draft criteria, but a specific act to nail Ali… part of a long tradition…

  52. MODI Says:

    sorry LP, I do get weak every now and then… we all have flaws… otherwise i cosign your post

  53. DavidMac Says:

    MODI, Joe Louis didn’t say anything about Ali until he pulled that disrespectful shit on Floyd Patterson. The man was an asshole.

    If Ali was French, you would not know who he was today, because he would have been sheltered overseas and kept from top competition, that is the nature of European boxing, until recently with a few exceptions, those being Prince Hamed and Amir Kahn. As for Wils, he was screwed because he was black, not because he was American.

    Louis paid Braddock money for a shot, yeah, so what that is the business. The fact is this, a boxer always made more money fighting in the US than anywhere else in the world, until recently, talking modern boxing as well. Being an American superstar in boxing was like being the QB of a NFL championship team today, you have press coverage, prestige and money.

    You failed in your post. You did nothing put show examples of how race held people back, not nationality. Try again next time.

  54. Anthony Gilbert Says:

    The banner of The Starting Five is a picture of Muhammad Ali. Why bother to visit the site, knowing that the people here appreciate The Champ?

    Food for thought.

  55. Miranda Says:

    Mizzo,
    How long will I be banned for calling Davidmac a bunch of really derogatory racial epithets? I just need to know because I wanna go out in a blaze of glory if its gonna be a really long time….but I feel I must do this…the rest of you can take the high road. I have no problem going down to the gutter where that spook is.

  56. Miranda Says:

    Oh snap…sorry…that “spook” slipped out.

  57. origin Says:

    Miranda, Mizzo, AG, MODI and Temple just ignore that uncle tom fool davidmac. He makes Larry Elder and Armstrong Williams look like Malcolm X. Every time that fool calls out this website yet he spends all day on this very same website posting comments.

    Davidmc takes self hate to a new extreme.

  58. TheLastPoet Says:

    Well, Miranda, I’ve already renamed him The Jolly Nigger Bank and I’m still here. But Dave The Jolly Nigger is funny to me. I could never take anyone like him seriously. He makes me laugh. He’s also a bore, however, and he’s quite literally insane. I mean it. He belongs in an asylum. He should be studied by experts.

    And I do grow tired of him turning every post into his own little neocon sho good nigger me so horny for capm boss charade.

    He’s banned at SOMM, I think (at least he was at one time…), and I respect that. His drivel is banal and stale, not to mention racist, sexist, elitist, xenophobic, ignorant, ahistorical, linear, contradictory, etc etc.

    So by all means, Miranda, have at it. After all, I shouldn’t be the only one calling him names.

  59. Miranda Says:

    Yep Origin, he really is self hating - which is a shame because that means its unanimous.

    LP,
    ROFLMAO……cool!!

  60. Mizzo Says:

    Miranda…do you sistagirl.

    I didn’t see nuthin’ :)

    Poet you crack me up bruh. I needed that laugh.

    I banned the cat once and caught hell from a couple of you (cough Okori cough).

    I just want to have a civil discussion on whatever is posted with my people..that’s it.

  61. Okori Says:

    I never said anything about banning DavidMac at least as much as I can remember. But of course….. Senility setting in at 26.

    but at this point Mizz if you want to ban D-Mac you’ve got me backing your play.

  62. Co Co Says:

    David Mac I assume you’re writing us from Iraq being you’re such a patriot and all, right?

  63. DavidMac Says:

    Why would I be writing you from Iraq CoCo? If my nation was in the position where they were enacting conscription I would be there if my number was called. Obviously volunteering is providing sufficient resources at this time. After Oct. I should be over there though, but as a contractor, doing my part and spreading the beauty of capitalism across the globe.

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