This Shit Ain’t Cute!
Are you serious? But I thought we’ve come so far?
Sent this from Miranda who is just as disgusted as I am. I couldn’t imagine living in the area where these shirts are sold outside of a bar. People listen, there some things that change but a lot is going to stay the same. We can only hope that the good people out there of all races understand what’s at stake in November.
How in the hell can they want George Bush 3?!? Remember 4 dollars for gas is not far from 10. Don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility.
Christian Boone of the AJC wrote a piece on this in today’s edition.
Also even the most ignorant black folks are even stupid enough to wear some crap like that……….
You would have to be Jason Whitlock, Larry Eldler and Armstrong Williams to the 9th power.
Yeap Michelle even the AJC has a story on it…..and you won’t hear a story about it on the radio or TV. Unless its Tavis Smiley, Tom Joyner or Michael Baisden telling you.
Boy I can’t wait till last poet and sankofa comment on this mess.
Demmm brothas gonna go off!!!!!
Sorry about that folks, the forum ate my post and I thought I had copied it but it was something else.
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To Okori, you are right now Obama does have the lead on McCain, I hadn’t seen the current polls that show him winning. Last week McCain had a significant lead against him, http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history
I still do not think he will win though, mainly because seniors, hispanic, and white men aren’t voting for him. Add to the fact that there is a great deal of democrats who will not vote for him if he wins the nominantion and you have a bad general election for Obama, unless he get Hilary as his VP.
Now about proof, you told me you had proof that a lot of people wouldn’t vote for Obama simply because he is black. Show me the national scientific polls you have to make you case.
Origin,
I know that’s right. LOL!
I think ‘Kofa and Poet were already in on this Origin.
And to your point Shaska (yeah that nickname’s too good to let it go): NBC news did some exit polling on this, and Ed Rendell (governor of Pennsylvania) brought it up too. here is the link to rendell: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/12/rendell-some-whites-wont-_n_86246.html
I really thought I saw a African American lady with one of these on.
I sincerely apologize if that is incorrect.
One of the things I hate more than being in error is prejudice in every way!
I am not supporting becuase of his politics not because of the color of his skin.
I live near Chicago – one of the most divisive towns I’ve been around – and I hate that politics always seems to come down to race.
Dr. Kings dream will come one day – I hope!
“the forum ate my post”……………….LMAO
Alright John Brown, what makes Rendell an authority? Show me some of those facts you were talking about.
you have to come up with something better than John Brown. John Brown was a hero. Shaska was a joke wrapped in a cartoon made of a bad tuxedo and a top hat. Try again.
and that NBC news data appears to have gone straight into the internet ether.
Regarding Rendell: I think he knows what his state’s voting patterns are better than you do Shaska.
Nah John Brown was a cold blooded murder, for you to call him a hero shows how big of a self-hating white man you are.
Rendell talk is not a fact. Show me facts or just admit that is what you think.
NBC news data appears to …., what is that about?
Shaska John Brown was not a murderer. And really…. are you conflating me, someone who is DEBATING you, with someone you might think is a murderer?
And to the other things: they did do polling. i just am having trouble convincing the google to give me the link.
Yes I am putting you in the same category as John Brown, but not homocidal. The self-hate is there though.
I’ve seen no national poll where they have asked whether Obama’s race played a roll in their vote and the majority or near majority said yes.
Good news!! The publisher of the Curious George books is NOT having it:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
John Brown wasn’t a murderer he had a cause for which lives were lost. Which makes him a killer if anything. Killing is justifiable (self defense, war depending on the circumstances)
Murder is a crime against humanity for which there is no justification.
John Brown went on a rampage where he killed 5 innocent men in the middle of the night. He then killed a free black man, on his raid on harper’s ferry. The man was psychotic. He is not a hero.
They’re just projecting.
Ok ok let’s not be driven off course (yet again) by the idiotic mumblings of Jolly Nigger Shaska. We know what to expect from him (nada). So why don’t the rest of us, those who are able to talk sensibly, huddle together to see what sense we can make of this?
The interesting thing about this incident is that it further drives a wedge between us and that homogenous entity known as the “white working class.” But then Okori, who is fam, comes along identifying himself as WWC and therein lies a problem for us.
On the one hand, we worry about the “idiots,” the “racists,” or the people whom Martin King once refered to as our “sick, white brothers” might do if Obama becomes the Demcratic nominee, or (gasp) if he actually becomes the next U.S. President. We single them out as individuals, or at most we say that they are a part of some small cadre of racists, all of whom live in small pockets of Indiana, Pennsylvania, Georgia, West Virginia, or Tennessee. Regardless of their numbers or the consistency of their thoughts and actions, we maintain that these individuals are dwarfed by the multitude of much more enlightened, tolerant Americans of every creed and hue. All of this may be true (or not); but ultimately it doesn’t matter because in thinking that racism is mainly a problem of the individual racists among us, we lose sight of its systemic nature.
Truth is, the white working class is not our enemy.
Remember Chuck D said, “This is what I mean by Anti-Nigger Machine” – emphasis on the word “Machine.”
Any society that uses race (as well as other phenomena) as an organizing principle for its civic institutions, i.e., any nation for which race and racism have been ongoing social practices in which everyone participates – either directly or indirectly -will forever produce results that can be classified as racist.
I’ll say it a third time: in a system where racism is the norm, the individual racist is not an abnormality, but rather an inevitability.
In any system like that, it is inevitable that t-shirts will portray a Black man as a monkey, that lil ol white ladies will fear the first Muslim President, etc. But the primary threat doesn’t come from insensitive t-shirts in Marietta or clueless hillbillies in West Virgina – it doesn’t even come from TSF’s very own brainwashed nigger we all love to hate, Jolly Nigger Shaska – all of these people are victims more than anything else. They believe in a myth, a lie. They believe it so strongly that they’ve turned the lie into the truth.
The lie itself, however, was generated, not by them, but by rulers and principalities that have a vested interested in maintaining systems of power. T-shirts, scapegoats, neocons, left wingers, fear, paranoia – these are all just side effects. It’s the system making sure it isn’t going anywhere by scaring enough of us into believing that it’s the best one available, you know, “land of the free” and all that bull.
Rulers and principalities that maintain systems of power via intimidation, fear, and violence – that should draw our ire more than anything else. It is a system that can and will take down Obama – if he ever gives them a reason – as cleanly as it did Sean Bell. Yes, I said it.
It wasn’t just a few rogue cops in particular, or police brutality against Blacks in general that took out Sean Bell. It was a court system, backed by government and corporate interests who essentially congratulated the policemen for a job well done. Indeed, you can hardly punish someone for doing what you’ve asked them to do – for doing what the machine has been built to do.
That’s what we should be mad about! Do you see my point?
Fuck a t-shirt. There’ll be a million more before we all die, which will give us a million more reasons to get mad at individual whitefolk (and their black lackeys), while letting the real culprit off the hook.
Think about it. Last week New Yorkers took to the street crying “We are all Sean Bell.”
That’s true.
We are all Barack Obama, too.
And we’ll get taken out in the exact same way, so long as we stay focused on distractions, outcomes, and side effects, rather than drawing our attention to the beast itself which sustains them.
woot! i’m family. *waits till Last Poet’s head is turned and then steals the last cookie off the tray, like EVERYONE’S brother did*
to the point you made Poet…. there is a difference between people who don’t know and people who don’t care to know. Those who don’t know can have the trouble explained to them and it will become clear. People who don’t care to know will go on being backwards racist sorts with no desire to improve this world.
And those who don’t care to know need to be treated like we treat Shaska…. ignored, left to stew in their own insipid comments, for eternity. Until you catch a clue we will stop listening to you.
I want to know first off, what makes Obama special to you TLP.
Why are “we” all Obama?
What really is different about Obama?
What change will he bring, besides being black?
What is the difference between half of the people on this board who only vote for Obama because he is black than the “evil, racist whites” who will not vote for him because he is black?
I mean for some of you all who support Obama, what policy does he promote that you support, besides the typical raise taxes to distribute wealth, slogan that all democrats support (Hilary too)?
I must have missed a memo or announcement at the weekly Field Negros meeting because I didn’t know we were only voting for Barack Obama because he was black…actually, I must have missed the meeting about who we were voting for at all…
Whew!! Well, its a relief that I picked right in the primary! That was close! I better make sure I make all the meetings from now on…wouldn’t want to screw up and vote the wrong way, or buy the wrong book or take the wrong side of a police shooting or something “black like that”.
Nice side stepping, but why to you be courageous and step up to the plate and take a swing Miranda. I think you are better than your reply.
Damn Poet….you kick the ball on the roof during recess every single time…another home run bruh…
MSNBC was on (Edwards endorsing Barack) when I woke from a nap yesterday after hearing some bad news. Buchanan was on speaking his hate and exclaiming that Hillary was some sort of underdog now. He said we have to deal with the fact that some people aren’t gonna change and that’s it. The moderators were trying to get this cat to understand that it’s time to get out from under what has held us all back for 400 years. Dude was not budging. I understand, but why the eff is this cat allowed to be on TV again?
Mizzo,
I saw it too….I honestly thought Buchanan was gonna have a stroke the way he was screaming and carrying on (as my mama would say…lol). I never really watched Chris Matthews, never really cared for him, but yesterday I’ll give him credit…the look on his face was “you one ignit sob”…..Buchanan had clearly lost his mind…..I guess that dagger Edwards thru went straight to the heart….all the while Obama sitting there thinking “nice aim”
Sho’ Nuff. As long as PAMF (yeah it’s an expletive) like Buchanan are allowed to make money we will never progress to an objective society.
If life was a cartoon I would have wrung his turkey neck through the screen.
Gobble gobble mufucka gobble gobble…
Edwards hurt em yesterday.
Whose the veep though?
Pat Buchanan isn’t holding soceity back, people like him (politically) helped make this country the great nation that it is today. Pat wasn’t surprised about Hilary being the underdog either, if you read his column on human events he along with everyone else knew Obama had the nomination wrapped up.
if I was Obama I’d make Richardson the veep. That dude is SERIOUS. anyone who can negotiate in Bosnia successfully is a tough guy, plus he was the secretary of energy.
Mizzo,
LOL….and ya know what’s sad?? Buchanan called the WV voters all kinds of ignorant..right to their face…..he thought he was being complimentary…LOL….that’s what tickled me. The look on Chris Matthews face was priceless. He looked like “WTF?”….LOL
Edwards is looking like the Attorney General to me. I don’t know who Obama will choose for VP…that will be interesting.
I do know I’d like to see Donna Brazile as his Chief of Staff.
Okori,
That was my personal favorite for VP….my dad said “we ain’t ready for it”…as in, two minorities might be pushing it. Sad, but probably true.
Miranda,
Kosovo= Eastern European Darfur.
Kosovo is no where close to being a East Europe Darfur. That is foolish.
You are right Shaska. Kosovo isn’t an Eastern European Darfur. Because, unliuke the conservative movement that you claim to represent, the government actually did something in Kosovo. Military forces actually toppled a true dictator, not one who was a straw man living on past fears. UN aid came in to help those people get their lives back. And the ones who came to this country are now living productive lives. That’s right Shaska. Kosovo’s nothing like Darfur.
Because America knew what was happening, and cared to stop it. See Shaska you are a joke, a shucking and jiving egg-sucking dog whose entire being is built around being contrary, jolly, and above all else STUPID. I helped 5 families of immigrants from Bosnia find work, school, and a place to stay. And in the eyes of their daughters, and the mothers, i saw answers to questions that I didn’t have to ask. So do not presume to tell me that Kosovo wasn’t Darfur. It isn’t because you, the president you swear fealty to, and the movement whose altar your worship at long ago decided that it would be better to chase a straw man, and conjure a ghost, than to help actual people.
And if you want to do anything to actually HELP people, instead of staying behind your computer shoveling Little Debbie Devil Squares into your mouth and talking shit about Obama and foreigners, how about you go out, find some people who need a second chance, and give them one?
Until then shut your mouth. Because all you are Shaska is a joke. And it’s not even a funny joke anymore.
“And in the eyes of their daughtera, and the mothers, I saw answers to questions I didn’t have to ask.”
Okori, I didn’t know you had it in you! That was profound. Do you mind if I borrow it sometime?
Respect
Oh yeah, I almost forgot…
[Poet spies Okori with eyes in the back of his head and slaps his hand away from the last chocolate chip cookie!]
go right ahead. those memories will stay with me forever. I imagine right now, somewhere, there is a social worker who is dealing with a family from Darfur that got out. When they are done they will tell you the same thing.
Okori why don’t you just go ahead and call me a nigger? LOL. I know you want to. Stop hating white people so much JB.
Bosnia wasn’t saved by Bush or Conservatives, that was Clinton, and I and a lot of conservatives didn’t and don’t support US intervention in the situation that European men should have been handling.
As for you experiance with Bosnians, how touching, I hope they are doing better now, but like I corrected you, it is no where close to being Darfur.
Shaska you know nothing about me. And I don’t want to call you the N-Word Shaska. it’s a word I despise using. And for the record I’m half-white.
No Bosnia was thrown on the fire by Conservatives, and it was NATO and the UN who saved it with the help of Clinton.
But you know what… I’m not wasting breath on you Shaska. Try with someone else.
You’ll believe what you want, Clinton got the US involved with it and that was the only point I made. Conservatives did nothing to hurt or help Bosnia because it isn’t our responsiblity, the same for Sudan.
Keep on fighting JB, one day you will get them all. LOL