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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12158</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 36 so I got the tail end of Frazier&#039;s career and none of Briscoe&#039;s but I did see footage of both and I must say they are two of the most underrated fighters in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 36 so I got the tail end of Frazier&#8217;s career and none of Briscoe&#8217;s but I did see footage of both and I must say they are two of the most underrated fighters in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12157</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s (and Mizzo can probably do this because I am convinced he knows) Frazier (had a hall-of-fame career with one good eye and one good punch), Briscoe (the number 2 for most of his career at Middleweight behind Carlos Monzon, and fought a Prime Monzon to a draw.), and then Hopkins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s (and Mizzo can probably do this because I am convinced he knows) Frazier (had a hall-of-fame career with one good eye and one good punch), Briscoe (the number 2 for most of his career at Middleweight behind Carlos Monzon, and fought a Prime Monzon to a draw.), and then Hopkins.</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12155</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying that Hopkins or anyone that I&#039;ve named needs a statue tomorrow, what I&#039;m saying is that there are actual real-life athletes that deserve a statue as opposed to a fictional character.

I&#039;m not old enough to debate who was more of a Philly fighter between Briscoe/Frazier/Hopkins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Hopkins or anyone that I&#8217;ve named needs a statue tomorrow, what I&#8217;m saying is that there are actual real-life athletes that deserve a statue as opposed to a fictional character.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not old enough to debate who was more of a Philly fighter between Briscoe/Frazier/Hopkins</p>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12154</link>
		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.... Bernard Hopkins&#039;s career is still going. He can&#039;t be immortalized in a statue. 

And before someone says Jordan let us remember: they did his statue in between the first retirement and the comeback. 

And I think Joe Frazier is more philadelphia boxing than Hopkins. Bennie Briscoe too for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230;. Bernard Hopkins&#8217;s career is still going. He can&#8217;t be immortalized in a statue. </p>
<p>And before someone says Jordan let us remember: they did his statue in between the first retirement and the comeback. </p>
<p>And I think Joe Frazier is more philadelphia boxing than Hopkins. Bennie Briscoe too for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12151</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re gonna compare Balboa to Christ - are you saying he was a fictional character? That&#039;s another story for another time.

My gripe with the statue is that I can think of a few guys more deserving than he&#039;s fictional and you have the nerve to saying in an earlier post that &quot;He&#039;s Boxing.&quot;

Tell that to Bernard Hopkins, Joe Frazier, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Tyrell Biggs, Meldrick Taylor, Rodney Moore or the families of Lonnie Young and James Shuler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re gonna compare Balboa to Christ &#8211; are you saying he was a fictional character? That&#8217;s another story for another time.</p>
<p>My gripe with the statue is that I can think of a few guys more deserving than he&#8217;s fictional and you have the nerve to saying in an earlier post that &#8220;He&#8217;s Boxing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell that to Bernard Hopkins, Joe Frazier, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Tyrell Biggs, Meldrick Taylor, Rodney Moore or the families of Lonnie Young and James Shuler.</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12138</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Rocky statue was a prop for a movie...a movie.  Nothing&#039;s symbolized by that except Sly and the studio were trying to make a dollar.  Stallone claims NYC not Philly and what that statue symbolizes is just as phony as a movie backlot.  The problem I have with that prop supposedly symbolizing the true spirit of Philadelphia is that there are sports heroes past and present who have authentically symbolized the grittiness and toughness of the City of Brotherly Love.  That prop spits on the success Philly teams and natives had before &#039;83 and the futility since then.  Maybe if these real people who actually bled for the greater municipal glory than some fictional legbreaker then maybe the championship drought would end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Rocky statue was a prop for a movie&#8230;a movie.  Nothing&#8217;s symbolized by that except Sly and the studio were trying to make a dollar.  Stallone claims NYC not Philly and what that statue symbolizes is just as phony as a movie backlot.  The problem I have with that prop supposedly symbolizing the true spirit of Philadelphia is that there are sports heroes past and present who have authentically symbolized the grittiness and toughness of the City of Brotherly Love.  That prop spits on the success Philly teams and natives had before &#8217;83 and the futility since then.  Maybe if these real people who actually bled for the greater municipal glory than some fictional legbreaker then maybe the championship drought would end.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh....where&#039;s BHops or Smokin&#039; Joe&#039;s statues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;.where&#8217;s BHops or Smokin&#8217; Joe&#8217;s statues?</p>
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		<title>By: BeinMiceElf</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12133</link>
		<dc:creator>BeinMiceElf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The collective imagination of you two guys cannot be that flawed, or limited..... or maybe it can.

Are your minds so literal that they can only derive meaning from literal, real-world figures? No one confuses the fictional Balboa with a living, breathing champion like Joe Frazier, but the whole point of art -- particularly movies and literature -- is to create characters who exemplify real-life virtues (or flaws) that allow us to see some of ourselves in those characters. By identifying with particular characters, we learn a bit about ourselves.

The Rocky movies were loved by millions of people, but that doesn&#039;t mean those people conflate Rocky&#039;s movie exploits with real-life accomplishments of living, breathing athletes. You guys have to lighten up a little. It is possible to admire real and fictional characters and not be considered a &#039;dolt.&#039; In fact, it seems more doltish to be unable to grasp the idea that fictional iconic characters have informed all cultures since man staretd telling stories.

I mean.... people still think Jesus walked on water, and there are more statues of that character than there are of Rocky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The collective imagination of you two guys cannot be that flawed, or limited&#8230;.. or maybe it can.</p>
<p>Are your minds so literal that they can only derive meaning from literal, real-world figures? No one confuses the fictional Balboa with a living, breathing champion like Joe Frazier, but the whole point of art &#8212; particularly movies and literature &#8212; is to create characters who exemplify real-life virtues (or flaws) that allow us to see some of ourselves in those characters. By identifying with particular characters, we learn a bit about ourselves.</p>
<p>The Rocky movies were loved by millions of people, but that doesn&#8217;t mean those people conflate Rocky&#8217;s movie exploits with real-life accomplishments of living, breathing athletes. You guys have to lighten up a little. It is possible to admire real and fictional characters and not be considered a &#8216;dolt.&#8217; In fact, it seems more doltish to be unable to grasp the idea that fictional iconic characters have informed all cultures since man staretd telling stories.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;. people still think Jesus walked on water, and there are more statues of that character than there are of Rocky.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rocky rules, my man…… I love Dr. J, but Balboa is more authentically Philly than Erving&quot;

Wow just wow. So I guess 50 years from now the legend will become fact and Philly will revere &quot;one of its own&quot; as the true heavyweight champion of the world.

Rocky was 290 and 0 and ruled the boxing world for 50 years until his great great grandchildren begged him to hang em up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rocky rules, my man…… I love Dr. J, but Balboa is more authentically Philly than Erving&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow just wow. So I guess 50 years from now the legend will become fact and Philly will revere &#8220;one of its own&#8221; as the true heavyweight champion of the world.</p>
<p>Rocky was 290 and 0 and ruled the boxing world for 50 years until his great great grandchildren begged him to hang em up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12115</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the exact reason to tear that damned statue down because only dolts wonder what fictional characters would do.  Rocky, Adrian, Pauly, and Apollo are fictional characters who if they need a place of honor then put them in front of Universal or Paramount Studios or what ever studio released the crap movies.

Besides, LI-born Julius Erving actually brought a real title to Philly.

Eddie Murphy said it right when he said white people actually do believe those movies...SMH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the exact reason to tear that damned statue down because only dolts wonder what fictional characters would do.  Rocky, Adrian, Pauly, and Apollo are fictional characters who if they need a place of honor then put them in front of Universal or Paramount Studios or what ever studio released the crap movies.</p>
<p>Besides, LI-born Julius Erving actually brought a real title to Philly.</p>
<p>Eddie Murphy said it right when he said white people actually do believe those movies&#8230;SMH.</p>
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		<title>By: BeinMiceElf</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12114</link>
		<dc:creator>BeinMiceElf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 05:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Rocky has &#039;got to go.&#039; This country has tons of fictional icons that have been given revered places in the culture.

Hell, two whole theme parks and a movie studio are built around some cartoon characters from the mind of Walt Disney. Should we tear down Disney World and rebuild a park based on the lives of Abbott and Costello and the Marx Brothers?

Actors dressed as Ronald McDonald make a living shooting TV commercials for a multi-billion dollar restaurant chain. Should we oust McD&#039;s and re-name all the burger joints &quot;Emmitt Kelly&#039;s?&quot;

And I suppose we should drop Santa Claus and use Andy Reid as the new Christmas symbol of tidings and good cheer.

Rocky rules, my man...... I love Dr. J, but Balboa is more authentically Philly than Erving, whose ex-wife once said, after the Sixers got Doc from the Nets and Mrs. Erving found out she&#039;d be leaving New York, &quot;One does not wear mink coats in Philadelphia.&quot; Would Adrian ever dis Philly like that? Adrian, or Pauly, would have hooked and jabbed Turquoise Erving right back to Long Island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Rocky has &#8216;got to go.&#8217; This country has tons of fictional icons that have been given revered places in the culture.</p>
<p>Hell, two whole theme parks and a movie studio are built around some cartoon characters from the mind of Walt Disney. Should we tear down Disney World and rebuild a park based on the lives of Abbott and Costello and the Marx Brothers?</p>
<p>Actors dressed as Ronald McDonald make a living shooting TV commercials for a multi-billion dollar restaurant chain. Should we oust McD&#8217;s and re-name all the burger joints &#8220;Emmitt Kelly&#8217;s?&#8221;</p>
<p>And I suppose we should drop Santa Claus and use Andy Reid as the new Christmas symbol of tidings and good cheer.</p>
<p>Rocky rules, my man&#8230;&#8230; I love Dr. J, but Balboa is more authentically Philly than Erving, whose ex-wife once said, after the Sixers got Doc from the Nets and Mrs. Erving found out she&#8217;d be leaving New York, &#8220;One does not wear mink coats in Philadelphia.&#8221; Would Adrian ever dis Philly like that? Adrian, or Pauly, would have hooked and jabbed Turquoise Erving right back to Long Island.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12105</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us here are PA natives bruh. Tear that shit down!!

If Rocky was real then that would be a different story wouldn&#039;t it?

Like Nino Brown said...Eff that! No renegotiations! 

Rocky has got to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us here are PA natives bruh. Tear that shit down!!</p>
<p>If Rocky was real then that would be a different story wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Like Nino Brown said&#8230;Eff that! No renegotiations! </p>
<p>Rocky has got to go!</p>
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		<title>By: BeinMiceElf</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12104</link>
		<dc:creator>BeinMiceElf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Pennsylvania native, I have to say that Philadelphia lacking a sports hall of fame is absurd. I know there is a foundation for it that is raising money to build one -- as far as I know there is not one standing right now -- but this city could honor all the athletes listed above if it just had the collective sense to erect a museum/HOF. Then, we wouldn&#039;t have to worry about the &#039;curse of the Italian Stallion&#039; or where the Rocky statue is located in relation to other legitimate pieces honoring true-life sports heroes.

And by the way..... Rocky Balboa is a cultural icon. He&#039;s Philly. He&#039;s boxing. He&#039;s heroism. He&#039;s persistence. He&#039;s honor. (At least in the first film. All the others all suck sh*t.)

We can&#039;t be dissing the Stallion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Pennsylvania native, I have to say that Philadelphia lacking a sports hall of fame is absurd. I know there is a foundation for it that is raising money to build one &#8212; as far as I know there is not one standing right now &#8212; but this city could honor all the athletes listed above if it just had the collective sense to erect a museum/HOF. Then, we wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about the &#8216;curse of the Italian Stallion&#8217; or where the Rocky statue is located in relation to other legitimate pieces honoring true-life sports heroes.</p>
<p>And by the way&#8230;.. Rocky Balboa is a cultural icon. He&#8217;s Philly. He&#8217;s boxing. He&#8217;s heroism. He&#8217;s persistence. He&#8217;s honor. (At least in the first film. All the others all suck sh*t.)</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t be dissing the Stallion.</p>
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		<title>By: hello</title>
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		<dc:creator>hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a mistake.  The Vezina Trophy actually goes to the best goalie in the regular season.  The Conn Smythe Trophy goes to the playoff MVP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a mistake.  The Vezina Trophy actually goes to the best goalie in the regular season.  The Conn Smythe Trophy goes to the playoff MVP.</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/21/the-jokes-on-us/comment-page-1/#comment-12024</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a huge Lindros fan, the way Bobby Clarke handled that situation was ugly and he lost alot of support because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a huge Lindros fan, the way Bobby Clarke handled that situation was ugly and he lost alot of support because of it.</p>
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