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	<title>Comments on: Friday Fire: Was Jemele Hill&#8217;s Hitler Remark Racist?</title>
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		<title>By: John F</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-29829</link>
		<dc:creator>John F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric you&#039;re way off base. Don&#039;t compare the Celtics to the Red Sox in race relations. The Celtic were the first NBA team to draft a Black player-Chuck Cooper. They were the first NBA team to start an all black team in 63-64. Russell, Willie Naulls, Tom Sanders, KC Jones and Sam Jones. The Harvey Araton book was a biased hatchet job. He had a big agenda. And the Celtics were the first pro sports team to higher a black coach- BIll Russell. What&#039;s sda about the Red Sox is that the Bruins had a black Hockey player(first in the NHL) Willie O&#039;Rea in 1957-58 the year before the first black Red Sock Pumpsie Geen played for the Sox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric you&#8217;re way off base. Don&#8217;t compare the Celtics to the Red Sox in race relations. The Celtic were the first NBA team to draft a Black player-Chuck Cooper. They were the first NBA team to start an all black team in 63-64. Russell, Willie Naulls, Tom Sanders, KC Jones and Sam Jones. The Harvey Araton book was a biased hatchet job. He had a big agenda. And the Celtics were the first pro sports team to higher a black coach- BIll Russell. What&#8217;s sda about the Red Sox is that the Bruins had a black Hockey player(first in the NHL) Willie O&#8217;Rea in 1957-58 the year before the first black Red Sock Pumpsie Geen played for the Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-19883</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two names for you. Bonnie Bernstein and Lou Holtz.

How&#039;s that for objectivity?</description>
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<p>How&#8217;s that for objectivity?</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-19878</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog entry is a joke.  Complete slant and not a shred of objectivity when it&#039;s clear someone you support was in the wrong.   Don&#039;t act like Jemele Hill didn&#039;t offend anyone and didn&#039;t commit the same crime of Don Imus.  Don&#039;t talk about Imus&#039;s track record of offending; Hill has had a number of cases of required retraction and apology including a prior suspension.  If you believe in free speech, it is free speech whether you support what is said or not.  Simply put, ESPN did enough damage control to prevent Jemele Hill from being fired and CBS Radio was unable to protect Imus since they don&#039;t control the news of the sports world and ESPN does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog entry is a joke.  Complete slant and not a shred of objectivity when it&#8217;s clear someone you support was in the wrong.   Don&#8217;t act like Jemele Hill didn&#8217;t offend anyone and didn&#8217;t commit the same crime of Don Imus.  Don&#8217;t talk about Imus&#8217;s track record of offending; Hill has had a number of cases of required retraction and apology including a prior suspension.  If you believe in free speech, it is free speech whether you support what is said or not.  Simply put, ESPN did enough damage control to prevent Jemele Hill from being fired and CBS Radio was unable to protect Imus since they don&#8217;t control the news of the sports world and ESPN does.</p>
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		<title>By: Hitler &#38; Sports Pt. 1: Media Hit-Job on Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13167</link>
		<dc:creator>Hitler &#38; Sports Pt. 1: Media Hit-Job on Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blogs Strike Out:  Besides the notable exceptions of The Starting Five and Awful Announcing, few other sports blogs chose to defend Hill against these media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah what E said.</description>
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		<title>By: eric daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13086</link>
		<dc:creator>eric daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg what dumb shit are you saying, When Imus called Black Women &quot;Nappy Headed Hoes&quot; he got another show and 80 million dollars, when Rev Wright criticized America and it&#039;s polices 40 years of work for humanity and the poor went right down the drain along with his church being called a hate group and Hill  Wright and Trinty getting death threats from Angry White Males. When Black People can say what they want without the NAACP, 38 million Black People having their Patriotism questioned at every moment then we will be equal.

Jemele said nothing racist or Anti Semetic it was a dumb analogy but most Black People hate The Bostons Celtics post- Russell because they intentionally promoted themselves as &quot;White America&#039;s Team. White Males can say anything they want and it is not attributed to 180 million people values and patriotism watch me or Mizzo or anyone say something &quot;racially incorrect&quot; and &quot;you people&quot; act like it the Popes during the Inquisition and want to question 38 million people if they agree with what one Black Man said . Yeah, the racial scales are totally imbalanced towards White Americans. No other group gets their loyalty to their country questioned by the MSM, and whites than African- Americans.

Yeah there is a &quot;language gestapo&quot; and the MSM are the SS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg what dumb shit are you saying, When Imus called Black Women &#8220;Nappy Headed Hoes&#8221; he got another show and 80 million dollars, when Rev Wright criticized America and it&#8217;s polices 40 years of work for humanity and the poor went right down the drain along with his church being called a hate group and Hill  Wright and Trinty getting death threats from Angry White Males. When Black People can say what they want without the NAACP, 38 million Black People having their Patriotism questioned at every moment then we will be equal.</p>
<p>Jemele said nothing racist or Anti Semetic it was a dumb analogy but most Black People hate The Bostons Celtics post- Russell because they intentionally promoted themselves as &#8220;White America&#8217;s Team. White Males can say anything they want and it is not attributed to 180 million people values and patriotism watch me or Mizzo or anyone say something &#8220;racially incorrect&#8221; and &#8220;you people&#8221; act like it the Popes during the Inquisition and want to question 38 million people if they agree with what one Black Man said . Yeah, the racial scales are totally imbalanced towards White Americans. No other group gets their loyalty to their country questioned by the MSM, and whites than African- Americans.</p>
<p>Yeah there is a &#8220;language gestapo&#8221; and the MSM are the SS</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13083</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just a shame that poor little Jemele couldn&#039;t keep her head straight and defend Don Imus&#039; right to say what he wanted to say.  When you empower the language gestapo in this country, this is what you get.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just a shame that poor little Jemele couldn&#8217;t keep her head straight and defend Don Imus&#8217; right to say what he wanted to say.  When you empower the language gestapo in this country, this is what you get.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13067</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just going to shut up because I might say some shit you just don&#039;t like.

Thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just going to shut up because I might say some shit you just don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13066</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not defending IMUS, so in resonse to my posts, that&#039;s not valid.  To say I lose credibility for what I said is your opinion but all my friends know where it comes from.  I see racism as saying words with intent to hurt, when your with your friends joking around, then it can be taken for what it is, guys / gals talking smack having fun.

For example, I&#039;m part Vietnamese and of my buddies is part Japanese.  A good back and forth we joke around is about how ignorant his islanders are compared to us mainlanders and then we make up crap (that is not valid in any way) but used just to joke around.  Seriously, if you can claim you&#039;ve never done this, then I give you credit.  But everyone I know from every race jokes around.  I&#039;ve had black friends who make fun of my asian background, but all in fun, and i&#039;ll make my comments about them (of which have no validity and made all in fun).  I don&#039;t use the &quot;N&quot; word and dont&#039; condone it.  I see where your angry and what you&#039;ve gone through, but I read the comments in her article adn I really don&#039;t see the 800 differnt ways she was called the N word.  I did read the hate, but you have to read into the comments to know it&#039;s they are racist based or just people who don&#039;t like her columns.

Each race, religion, color will read it differently.  So even if it&#039;s not intended to be racist, if you read teh comments thinking people are attacking because of race, you&#039;ll read racism into it.  If your white adn ignorant to race issues, they could flat out call her a &quot;N&quot;er adn you probably wouldn&#039;t see it as harmful.  Just how you look at the words. 

And you can&#039;t honestly tell me that black people are not as guilty of cracking jokes about themselves, their race and other races as everyone else is.  I&#039;m just supposed to say the people I know are the minority, and all the comics/videos/shows and etc are just making up that this happens?  I really don&#039;t think so.  That is where you lose credibility with me.  But thanks for the forum.  I&#039;m not insecure as i&#039;m a mut, my wife is a mut, and all our friends are differnt mixes of muts,.  I&#039;m pretty damn secure in who and what I can accept as races, and it&#039;s pretty much any person who is nice, loving, and honest regardless of race.

I&#039;m not sure why your resorting to attacking when I am honestly just trying to have an intellectual discussion.  OH well, if you think what i say is offensive, respond that way, and I&#039;ll just go ahead and take it for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not defending IMUS, so in resonse to my posts, that&#8217;s not valid.  To say I lose credibility for what I said is your opinion but all my friends know where it comes from.  I see racism as saying words with intent to hurt, when your with your friends joking around, then it can be taken for what it is, guys / gals talking smack having fun.</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;m part Vietnamese and of my buddies is part Japanese.  A good back and forth we joke around is about how ignorant his islanders are compared to us mainlanders and then we make up crap (that is not valid in any way) but used just to joke around.  Seriously, if you can claim you&#8217;ve never done this, then I give you credit.  But everyone I know from every race jokes around.  I&#8217;ve had black friends who make fun of my asian background, but all in fun, and i&#8217;ll make my comments about them (of which have no validity and made all in fun).  I don&#8217;t use the &#8220;N&#8221; word and dont&#8217; condone it.  I see where your angry and what you&#8217;ve gone through, but I read the comments in her article adn I really don&#8217;t see the 800 differnt ways she was called the N word.  I did read the hate, but you have to read into the comments to know it&#8217;s they are racist based or just people who don&#8217;t like her columns.</p>
<p>Each race, religion, color will read it differently.  So even if it&#8217;s not intended to be racist, if you read teh comments thinking people are attacking because of race, you&#8217;ll read racism into it.  If your white adn ignorant to race issues, they could flat out call her a &#8220;N&#8221;er adn you probably wouldn&#8217;t see it as harmful.  Just how you look at the words. </p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t honestly tell me that black people are not as guilty of cracking jokes about themselves, their race and other races as everyone else is.  I&#8217;m just supposed to say the people I know are the minority, and all the comics/videos/shows and etc are just making up that this happens?  I really don&#8217;t think so.  That is where you lose credibility with me.  But thanks for the forum.  I&#8217;m not insecure as i&#8217;m a mut, my wife is a mut, and all our friends are differnt mixes of muts,.  I&#8217;m pretty damn secure in who and what I can accept as races, and it&#8217;s pretty much any person who is nice, loving, and honest regardless of race.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why your resorting to attacking when I am honestly just trying to have an intellectual discussion.  OH well, if you think what i say is offensive, respond that way, and I&#8217;ll just go ahead and take it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13062</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but why isn&#039;t this story being talked about like when Sprewell choked P.J.?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8283692?MSNHPHMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but why isn&#8217;t this story being talked about like when Sprewell choked P.J.?</p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8283692?MSNHPHMA" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8283692?MSNHPHMA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adolf Hitler &#38; The Miseducation of Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13047</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolf Hitler &#38; The Miseducation of Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Media Silence Was Deafening: Besides the notable exceptions of The Starting Five and Awful Announcing few articles or blogs who weighed in opted to defend Hill in any way. Few [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13041</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you didn&#039;t say some of my best friends are Black ;)

I stand corrected on who should be offended because you make valid points. I apologize for what should be construed as vague and insensitive.

Yet and still...please tell me why someone should be offended by saying &quot;Rooting for the Celtics is like saying Hitler was a victim&quot;. 

I&#039;m listening and willing to engage you here even though I&#039;m typing up an interview some folk are waiting for.

My main question is why the hell are people defending Imus in all of this?

Why is there a market for sick people like Imus? It ain&#039;t Black folk who are making him rich that&#039;s for damn sure.

Another thing...I don&#039;t make jokes about other races. 

That&#039;s where you lose credibility in your comment. 

I owned a clothing line in the late 90&#039;s called pointefive. We had a specific t shirt that caused mass hysteria. The shirt had the word racism on the front. On the back there again was the word racism in a tattered font. Under was practically every racial slur known to man. Then read: You&#039;ve heard them, you say them, you&#039;ve been called them. Racism is man made, Damn man for making it.

We sold a lot of those shirts. They were a hit with every race.

June 27th, 2001 two White supremacists vandalized my house and privacy fence at night and tried to take my head off with a 2 x 4 until one caught one of my Tyson like uppercuts to his &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/8/8a/GuySmiley.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guy Smiley&lt;/a&gt; ass chin. They spray painted all kinds of sick shit on my house but were never found and the case was closed. I learned a lot about race during that time. I&#039;m not an expert, but I learned a lot about racial psychology as well that I still employ today. 

I say this because the reaction doesn&#039;t fit the crime. The reaction to Jemele has been one of straight hatred. Go to her blog and read the comments. She was called every form of nigger possible.

Hmmmm...but somehow that slithers under the radar. People say she earned that outcry because of her past of comparing racist comments &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestartingfive.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/this-is-why-you-should-have-spoke-up-tiger-woods/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;directed&lt;/a&gt; at individuals?

Bullshit. Maybe Tilghman and Imus speak the jokes you and your people say anyway everyday because they &lt;em&gt;knew&lt;/em&gt; it was OK?

Is that some kind of therapeutic exercise to uplift spirits shaded with defense mechanism layers of insecurity?

Blacks don&#039;t do that shit. I&#039;m sorry, but we do not en masse. 

It&#039;s not funny to us. Never has and never will. We may say White folk can&#039;t dance and walk with their &lt;a href=&quot;http://slamonline.com/online/2008/05/game-notes-the-end-of-the-76ers-season/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;booty holes tight&lt;/a&gt; but that&#039;s tame by &lt;em&gt;White folk making jokes about Black folk&lt;/em&gt; standards.

We&#039;ve been called nigger for far to long to flip that shit on other races. We know how it feels way before we are born into this sick world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you didn&#8217;t say some of my best friends are Black <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I stand corrected on who should be offended because you make valid points. I apologize for what should be construed as vague and insensitive.</p>
<p>Yet and still&#8230;please tell me why someone should be offended by saying &#8220;Rooting for the Celtics is like saying Hitler was a victim&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m listening and willing to engage you here even though I&#8217;m typing up an interview some folk are waiting for.</p>
<p>My main question is why the hell are people defending Imus in all of this?</p>
<p>Why is there a market for sick people like Imus? It ain&#8217;t Black folk who are making him rich that&#8217;s for damn sure.</p>
<p>Another thing&#8230;I don&#8217;t make jokes about other races. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s where you lose credibility in your comment. </p>
<p>I owned a clothing line in the late 90&#8242;s called pointefive. We had a specific t shirt that caused mass hysteria. The shirt had the word racism on the front. On the back there again was the word racism in a tattered font. Under was practically every racial slur known to man. Then read: You&#8217;ve heard them, you say them, you&#8217;ve been called them. Racism is man made, Damn man for making it.</p>
<p>We sold a lot of those shirts. They were a hit with every race.</p>
<p>June 27th, 2001 two White supremacists vandalized my house and privacy fence at night and tried to take my head off with a 2 x 4 until one caught one of my Tyson like uppercuts to his <a href="http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/8/8a/GuySmiley.jpg" rel="nofollow">Guy Smiley</a> ass chin. They spray painted all kinds of sick shit on my house but were never found and the case was closed. I learned a lot about race during that time. I&#8217;m not an expert, but I learned a lot about racial psychology as well that I still employ today. </p>
<p>I say this because the reaction doesn&#8217;t fit the crime. The reaction to Jemele has been one of straight hatred. Go to her blog and read the comments. She was called every form of nigger possible.</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;but somehow that slithers under the radar. People say she earned that outcry because of her past of comparing racist comments <a href="http://thestartingfive.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/this-is-why-you-should-have-spoke-up-tiger-woods/" rel="nofollow">directed</a> at individuals?</p>
<p>Bullshit. Maybe Tilghman and Imus speak the jokes you and your people say anyway everyday because they <em>knew</em> it was OK?</p>
<p>Is that some kind of therapeutic exercise to uplift spirits shaded with defense mechanism layers of insecurity?</p>
<p>Blacks don&#8217;t do that shit. I&#8217;m sorry, but we do not en masse. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not funny to us. Never has and never will. We may say White folk can&#8217;t dance and walk with their <a href="http://slamonline.com/online/2008/05/game-notes-the-end-of-the-76ers-season/" rel="nofollow">booty holes tight</a> but that&#8217;s tame by <em>White folk making jokes about Black folk</em> standards.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been called nigger for far to long to flip that shit on other races. We know how it feels way before we are born into this sick world.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  not trying to be an ass, but if you&#039;ve ever been offended in your life by something someone inadvertantly said, you can&#039;t quickly dismiss when someone else says they are offended.  

Personally this Politically Correct BS is out of hand.  I have friends of all races, religions, color and many times with friends of other races/colors we joke about our heritages and make fun of each other.  It&#039;s not meant to offend, but almost everyone does it.  Sadly, if we do this anywhere in earshot of anyone else, that person will claim to be offended and now we&#039;re ignorant and racist.  To each their own, but no one is perfect and no one way to live life is always the right way.  If you think making racial jokes with your racially diverse friends is wrong the power to you, but I would think your in the minority on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  not trying to be an ass, but if you&#8217;ve ever been offended in your life by something someone inadvertantly said, you can&#8217;t quickly dismiss when someone else says they are offended.  </p>
<p>Personally this Politically Correct BS is out of hand.  I have friends of all races, religions, color and many times with friends of other races/colors we joke about our heritages and make fun of each other.  It&#8217;s not meant to offend, but almost everyone does it.  Sadly, if we do this anywhere in earshot of anyone else, that person will claim to be offended and now we&#8217;re ignorant and racist.  To each their own, but no one is perfect and no one way to live life is always the right way.  If you think making racial jokes with your racially diverse friends is wrong the power to you, but I would think your in the minority on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13039</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to really read my intent.  the comparison I made was that Tilghman made a slip, and did not intentionally try to offend anyone.  But it did, and no matter how much she apologized many in the black community couldn&#039;t forgive her.  Jamele came down on her just as hard and insinuated she knew better and unfortunately made it seem like as an intelligent women like Tilgman she should never make a slip like that and the two week suspension wasn&#039;t enough.  Well here we are where another intelligent women in Jamele Hill made the slip, so I say dont throw rocks if you live in a glass house.  Expect people to try to come at you with the same force. 

And you say the only peole who can be offended are the Jews, I say anyone who fought the war, had relatives die in the war, had families destroyed by the war, can be offended.  Hitler persecuted the Jewish people, but he caused millions more deaths that impacted all races, religions, cultures, sexes, etc.  A common comment I hear when races arguments are made are black people telling whites that you don&#039;t know because you haven&#039;t lived my life.  Well I say to You and I and any other person that you don&#039;t really know who it offended, becasue you don&#039;t live their life.

Again, I&#039;m thick skinned and I see her attempt at humor for what it is, merely an attempt to be witty. But as strong as Jamele comes down on others, no one should be surprised at the outcry against her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to really read my intent.  the comparison I made was that Tilghman made a slip, and did not intentionally try to offend anyone.  But it did, and no matter how much she apologized many in the black community couldn&#8217;t forgive her.  Jamele came down on her just as hard and insinuated she knew better and unfortunately made it seem like as an intelligent women like Tilgman she should never make a slip like that and the two week suspension wasn&#8217;t enough.  Well here we are where another intelligent women in Jamele Hill made the slip, so I say dont throw rocks if you live in a glass house.  Expect people to try to come at you with the same force. </p>
<p>And you say the only peole who can be offended are the Jews, I say anyone who fought the war, had relatives die in the war, had families destroyed by the war, can be offended.  Hitler persecuted the Jewish people, but he caused millions more deaths that impacted all races, religions, cultures, sexes, etc.  A common comment I hear when races arguments are made are black people telling whites that you don&#8217;t know because you haven&#8217;t lived my life.  Well I say to You and I and any other person that you don&#8217;t really know who it offended, becasue you don&#8217;t live their life.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m thick skinned and I see her attempt at humor for what it is, merely an attempt to be witty. But as strong as Jamele comes down on others, no one should be surprised at the outcry against her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/20/friday-fire-was-jemele-hills-hitler-remark-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-13037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously Will the only people that have a right to be offended by this comment is Jews.

Blacks have a different &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daveyd.com/hitlerpol.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;past&lt;/a&gt; with Hitler that shouldn&#039;t be diminished as well.

Anyone else who is equating Jemele to Imus is all about the get back even though this cat has 8000 stacks in his pockets and still gets away with floating in pig shit.

You say yourself a lot of this is overblown, so what&#039;s the problem?

Please tell me why what Jemele said is anything remotely similar to Imus or Tilghman. 

No one has given me anything concrete in dissent, so I&#039;m sticking to my guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Will the only people that have a right to be offended by this comment is Jews.</p>
<p>Blacks have a different <a href="http://www.daveyd.com/hitlerpol.html" rel="nofollow">past</a> with Hitler that shouldn&#8217;t be diminished as well.</p>
<p>Anyone else who is equating Jemele to Imus is all about the get back even though this cat has 8000 stacks in his pockets and still gets away with floating in pig shit.</p>
<p>You say yourself a lot of this is overblown, so what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
<p>Please tell me why what Jemele said is anything remotely similar to Imus or Tilghman. </p>
<p>No one has given me anything concrete in dissent, so I&#8217;m sticking to my guns.</p>
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