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		<title>By: best</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-16942</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im agree.</description>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13019</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I do think they&#039;ll trade him unless he&#039;s lights out before the trade deadline.  He can&#039;t start the season the way he finished the last one or he&#039;s done.  He&#039;s only got one year left and he makes like $13 mil.  Of course ATL Spirit will be looking to move him.  They&#039;re cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I do think they&#8217;ll trade him unless he&#8217;s lights out before the trade deadline.  He can&#8217;t start the season the way he finished the last one or he&#8217;s done.  He&#8217;s only got one year left and he makes like $13 mil.  Of course ATL Spirit will be looking to move him.  They&#8217;re cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13017</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think they will really trade Bibby? Dang, I never even thought of that possibility. If they do that, and fail to re-sign both Joshs(sp), it would be some of the dumbest moves ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think they will really trade Bibby? Dang, I never even thought of that possibility. If they do that, and fail to re-sign both Joshs(sp), it would be some of the dumbest moves ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13016</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I honestly hope he proves me wrong  I swear I do!  I want the team to do well.
Bibby will more than likely be gone by the trade deadline.  I can&#039;t see them paying to keep him because they don&#039;t wanna pay anyone and they already have a point guard on the roster stealing $25 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I honestly hope he proves me wrong  I swear I do!  I want the team to do well.<br />
Bibby will more than likely be gone by the trade deadline.  I can&#8217;t see them paying to keep him because they don&#8217;t wanna pay anyone and they already have a point guard on the roster stealing $25 million.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13015</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coco,

Woody is trying to emulate the offense that Larry Brown had in Detroit. Is he doing a good job of it, hell no (lol). He wants to run a half-court offense through Joe Johnson. The problem with that is Atlanta has no deadly outside shooters, so when Joe penetrates, who&#039;s he gonna dish to? Marvin? J-Smoove? Bibby came to the team towards the end of the year but he&#039;s streaky. The Hawks need a shooter who can consistenly make the open shot, whether it&#039;s a three or 18-footer. 

The Hawks tend to start off the game shooting jumpers instead of penetrating and kicking the ball out. I think that&#039;s because they didn&#039;t have a true point-guard. And being that Joe Johnson was the only viable threat on the team before Bibby&#039;s arrival, teams would double him and dare Marvin and Josh to beat them. But now, with Bibby here for an entire season and Al Horford becoming a force in the middle, they are now able to call more plays in an &#039;inside-outside&#039; offense and free up some shooters. This way you don’t rely strictly on jump shots in the beginning. But make no mistake about it, the Hawks need another shooter....someone like Heinrich with the Bulls. 

Now i&#039;m going to be honest here; I fully expected them to fire Woodson, even after the playoff run. I thought that if Woody got fired, they&#039;d go after Avery. I think Flip Saunders has had his best chances to win a title and after getting to the ECF with the best starting five in the league for 3 years, he just doesn&#039;t have what it takes to get over the top. 

....and no, it&#039;s not wrong for you to want a better coach. I&#039;m telling you that if Woody doesn&#039;t get them into the 2nd round in &#039;09, i&#039;ll be right with you screaming for him to be fired. :-)



Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coco,</p>
<p>Woody is trying to emulate the offense that Larry Brown had in Detroit. Is he doing a good job of it, hell no (lol). He wants to run a half-court offense through Joe Johnson. The problem with that is Atlanta has no deadly outside shooters, so when Joe penetrates, who&#8217;s he gonna dish to? Marvin? J-Smoove? Bibby came to the team towards the end of the year but he&#8217;s streaky. The Hawks need a shooter who can consistenly make the open shot, whether it&#8217;s a three or 18-footer. </p>
<p>The Hawks tend to start off the game shooting jumpers instead of penetrating and kicking the ball out. I think that&#8217;s because they didn&#8217;t have a true point-guard. And being that Joe Johnson was the only viable threat on the team before Bibby&#8217;s arrival, teams would double him and dare Marvin and Josh to beat them. But now, with Bibby here for an entire season and Al Horford becoming a force in the middle, they are now able to call more plays in an &#8216;inside-outside&#8217; offense and free up some shooters. This way you don’t rely strictly on jump shots in the beginning. But make no mistake about it, the Hawks need another shooter&#8230;.someone like Heinrich with the Bulls. </p>
<p>Now i&#8217;m going to be honest here; I fully expected them to fire Woodson, even after the playoff run. I thought that if Woody got fired, they&#8217;d go after Avery. I think Flip Saunders has had his best chances to win a title and after getting to the ECF with the best starting five in the league for 3 years, he just doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to get over the top. </p>
<p>&#8230;.and no, it&#8217;s not wrong for you to want a better coach. I&#8217;m telling you that if Woody doesn&#8217;t get them into the 2nd round in &#8217;09, i&#8217;ll be right with you screaming for him to be fired. <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13012</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well since you&#039;ve been watching them maybe you can help me because no one else can. What kind of offense is he running?  I&#039;ve asked around and no one knows. No one. I&#039;m not even being smug right now I honestly have been trying to figure it out for 4 years.    And it&#039;s not like they would have been firing him, his contract was up this summer.  They didn&#039;t have to extend him and when you had coaches like Avery and Flip on the market you can&#039;t tell me that Woody was the best option.  Is it wrong for me to want a better coach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since you&#8217;ve been watching them maybe you can help me because no one else can. What kind of offense is he running?  I&#8217;ve asked around and no one knows. No one. I&#8217;m not even being smug right now I honestly have been trying to figure it out for 4 years.    And it&#8217;s not like they would have been firing him, his contract was up this summer.  They didn&#8217;t have to extend him and when you had coaches like Avery and Flip on the market you can&#8217;t tell me that Woody was the best option.  Is it wrong for me to want a better coach?</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13010</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I never said or meant to imply that Woody is not to be blamed with some of the losses or the way his team performed at times. He should not be given a free pass. If his record was 108-222 with good players then i&#039;d be on the &quot;Fire Woody NOW&quot; bandwagon. But we all know he walked into a bad situation and I don&#039;t know one coach who would&#039;ve fared better being dealt the hand Woody was dealt.

The guy is not the best coach in the league (by a long shot), but i don&#039;t think he&#039;s the worse either. I didn&#039;t expect the Hawks to be competitive in Boston. To be honest, I expected the Celtics to take the Hawks in 5 (4-1). No one (and I mean absolutely no one) expected the Hawks to take the Celtics to seven games. Sure he&#039;s made some questionable moves but what coach in this league haven&#039;t made moves we&#039;ve all questioned? Why did Phil Jackson sit Derek Fisher in the Finals after he was effecticve in talking the ball to the basket? Why did Doc Rivers at times sit Rondo and go with Sam Cassell instead of Eddie House, who proved he was more effective? 

What Woody showed me in the playoffs is that if his team buys into what he&#039;s trying to incorporate (play defense, move the ball around, take smart shots, be agressive), they can beat even the best of teams. However, if the team would rather take ill-advised threes(Josh Smith), play &quot;lack-a-daisal&quot; defense(Marvin Williams), and fear the home team(Marvin Williams, Zaza), then they&#039;ll lose on the road like they did in the 1st round. That&#039;s what I took from it. If you never give the system a chance, especially in the most trying of times, you won&#039;t ever know whether or not it will work. 

I&#039;ve been watching the Hawks every since the days of Dan Roundfield. I&#039;ve seen the good years and the bad years. I watch them every year, either on TV or at Phillips Arena. I won&#039;t claim to be an expert on them but I did say that they would make the playoffs this year. And I won&#039;t sit here and say Woody did a fantastic job, either. But I will say that he did the best he could with what he had. I&#039;ll even say that he did better than anyone expected him to. But again, what coach what have done better if he was dealt the hand Woody was dealt? We&#039;ll never know...........


BTW.....i&#039;m not judging a coach on one playoff series. I&#039;ve looked at what he&#039;s done with what he&#039;s been given by Billy Knight the past four years.


Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I never said or meant to imply that Woody is not to be blamed with some of the losses or the way his team performed at times. He should not be given a free pass. If his record was 108-222 with good players then i&#8217;d be on the &#8220;Fire Woody NOW&#8221; bandwagon. But we all know he walked into a bad situation and I don&#8217;t know one coach who would&#8217;ve fared better being dealt the hand Woody was dealt.</p>
<p>The guy is not the best coach in the league (by a long shot), but i don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s the worse either. I didn&#8217;t expect the Hawks to be competitive in Boston. To be honest, I expected the Celtics to take the Hawks in 5 (4-1). No one (and I mean absolutely no one) expected the Hawks to take the Celtics to seven games. Sure he&#8217;s made some questionable moves but what coach in this league haven&#8217;t made moves we&#8217;ve all questioned? Why did Phil Jackson sit Derek Fisher in the Finals after he was effecticve in talking the ball to the basket? Why did Doc Rivers at times sit Rondo and go with Sam Cassell instead of Eddie House, who proved he was more effective? </p>
<p>What Woody showed me in the playoffs is that if his team buys into what he&#8217;s trying to incorporate (play defense, move the ball around, take smart shots, be agressive), they can beat even the best of teams. However, if the team would rather take ill-advised threes(Josh Smith), play &#8220;lack-a-daisal&#8221; defense(Marvin Williams), and fear the home team(Marvin Williams, Zaza), then they&#8217;ll lose on the road like they did in the 1st round. That&#8217;s what I took from it. If you never give the system a chance, especially in the most trying of times, you won&#8217;t ever know whether or not it will work. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the Hawks every since the days of Dan Roundfield. I&#8217;ve seen the good years and the bad years. I watch them every year, either on TV or at Phillips Arena. I won&#8217;t claim to be an expert on them but I did say that they would make the playoffs this year. And I won&#8217;t sit here and say Woody did a fantastic job, either. But I will say that he did the best he could with what he had. I&#8217;ll even say that he did better than anyone expected him to. But again, what coach what have done better if he was dealt the hand Woody was dealt? We&#8217;ll never know&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;..i&#8217;m not judging a coach on one playoff series. I&#8217;ve looked at what he&#8217;s done with what he&#8217;s been given by Billy Knight the past four years.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13009</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, if we&#039;re going to judge coaches off one playoff series  then Phil Jackson&#039;s ass needs to be fired. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, if we&#8217;re going to judge coaches off one playoff series  then Phil Jackson&#8217;s ass needs to be fired. <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13008</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest gripe is Woody seems to be the only coach where it&#039;s never his fault.  It&#039;s all about the hand he was dealt.  yes he walked into a bad situation, but that doesn&#039;t mean he should get a free pass.  His record is like 108-222.  That&#039;s atrocious in every sense of the word and if he were coaching your team you wouldn&#039;t care about the crappy roster he has.  Head coaching is about results in every sport.  Coaches get fired year after year after year and a lot of the time they had personnel flaws on their teams.  And as far as  them busting their asses in the playoffs, yep they sure did bust their asses at Philips Arena behind a crazy crowd.  They were never competitive in Boston and a lot of that was on him.  For example sitting Joe and or Al or Josh for the remainder of the first half just because they picked up 2 early fouls. By the time he let them back in the game was over.  He&#039;s done that numerous times throughout his 4 year tenure, but all of a sudden his past is irrelevant.  Everyone wants to look at the playoffs and say he deserves another shot, but what did he show you as a coach in the losses or the wins for that matter?  It&#039;s like no one even bothers to analyze his coaching abilities when they ask for patience.  I&#039;m not saying that just because I watched every game the Hawks played in this season that I&#039;m an expert on them.  But let&#039;s be honest no one paid attention to them until they got in the playoffs now all of a sudden everyone thinks Woody did a fantastic job. I&#039;m not going to pretend like the last 4 seasons didn&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest gripe is Woody seems to be the only coach where it&#8217;s never his fault.  It&#8217;s all about the hand he was dealt.  yes he walked into a bad situation, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he should get a free pass.  His record is like 108-222.  That&#8217;s atrocious in every sense of the word and if he were coaching your team you wouldn&#8217;t care about the crappy roster he has.  Head coaching is about results in every sport.  Coaches get fired year after year after year and a lot of the time they had personnel flaws on their teams.  And as far as  them busting their asses in the playoffs, yep they sure did bust their asses at Philips Arena behind a crazy crowd.  They were never competitive in Boston and a lot of that was on him.  For example sitting Joe and or Al or Josh for the remainder of the first half just because they picked up 2 early fouls. By the time he let them back in the game was over.  He&#8217;s done that numerous times throughout his 4 year tenure, but all of a sudden his past is irrelevant.  Everyone wants to look at the playoffs and say he deserves another shot, but what did he show you as a coach in the losses or the wins for that matter?  It&#8217;s like no one even bothers to analyze his coaching abilities when they ask for patience.  I&#8217;m not saying that just because I watched every game the Hawks played in this season that I&#8217;m an expert on them.  But let&#8217;s be honest no one paid attention to them until they got in the playoffs now all of a sudden everyone thinks Woody did a fantastic job. I&#8217;m not going to pretend like the last 4 seasons didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-13007</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoCo,

You&#039;re right, i just looked up his coaching career and he did just complete his 4th term. But in my opinion, he has utilized what he has had to work with. Now granted, it&#039;s not much but i&#039;m wondering who out there could&#039;ve done better? As I said earlier, the team&#039;s record improved every year and he got them to the playoffs last year. 

All players are not going to get along with their coaches -- that&#039;s just the way it is. It&#039;s called &quot;clash of egos&quot;. If the players know more than the coach does about what it takes to win in the NBA, then maybe the players should coach the team. Personally, I think it&#039;s a matter of the players being &quot;young&quot; and full of you know what. I will agree that not all the players are buying into his system but most of them are. That was the same situation that happened between Doc Rivers and Paul Pierce. Doc couldn&#039;t get Pierce to buy into his system UNTIL he got the missing pieces. This is what needs to happen in Atlanta -- they need more pieces and I guarantee you that J-Smoove will buy into it. Winning cures everything. 

It seems to me that they busted their asses for him during the playoffs, unless i&#039;m missing something. And as for the two-year contract extension -- it is what it is....you and I both know that. This is a business. If you don&#039;t win NOW, you&#039;re out the door. But if a coach don&#039;t have all the pieces, why do people expect so much with so little? I cram to understand that. 

Avery Johnson inherited a good team, so the expectations for him was indeed higher. Do i agree with his firing? No, I don&#039;t but I think his situation was far different from Woody&#039;s. 

Like I said, i don&#039;t know if Woody is the right guy or not but I think people are really being unfair to him. If the Hawks don&#039;t make it into the second round next year, of course he&#039;s gone. But at the same time, the GM need to get him the players to be successful and for the past 4 years the Hawks have failed to do that.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re right, i just looked up his coaching career and he did just complete his 4th term. But in my opinion, he has utilized what he has had to work with. Now granted, it&#8217;s not much but i&#8217;m wondering who out there could&#8217;ve done better? As I said earlier, the team&#8217;s record improved every year and he got them to the playoffs last year. </p>
<p>All players are not going to get along with their coaches &#8212; that&#8217;s just the way it is. It&#8217;s called &#8220;clash of egos&#8221;. If the players know more than the coach does about what it takes to win in the NBA, then maybe the players should coach the team. Personally, I think it&#8217;s a matter of the players being &#8220;young&#8221; and full of you know what. I will agree that not all the players are buying into his system but most of them are. That was the same situation that happened between Doc Rivers and Paul Pierce. Doc couldn&#8217;t get Pierce to buy into his system UNTIL he got the missing pieces. This is what needs to happen in Atlanta &#8212; they need more pieces and I guarantee you that J-Smoove will buy into it. Winning cures everything. </p>
<p>It seems to me that they busted their asses for him during the playoffs, unless i&#8217;m missing something. And as for the two-year contract extension &#8212; it is what it is&#8230;.you and I both know that. This is a business. If you don&#8217;t win NOW, you&#8217;re out the door. But if a coach don&#8217;t have all the pieces, why do people expect so much with so little? I cram to understand that. </p>
<p>Avery Johnson inherited a good team, so the expectations for him was indeed higher. Do i agree with his firing? No, I don&#8217;t but I think his situation was far different from Woody&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Like I said, i don&#8217;t know if Woody is the right guy or not but I think people are really being unfair to him. If the Hawks don&#8217;t make it into the second round next year, of course he&#8217;s gone. But at the same time, the GM need to get him the players to be successful and for the past 4 years the Hawks have failed to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
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		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He just concluded his fourth season and I&#039;m not putting all the blame on him.  However, coaches are hired to be fired that&#039;s the way the game is played and in my opinion being EXTREMELY close to the situation I don&#039;t think he&#039;s the best option.  There are plenty of coaches who haven&#039;t had a perfect roster, but they find ways to utilize whatever skill sets their players may have.  He hasn&#039;t done that.  He hasn&#039;t adjusted his system according to the personnel he has.  And, the team&#039;s top free agent and him don&#039;t get along as well as about 4 other players on the team.  That says a lot about his ability to get them to buy into whatever he&#039;s teaching.  They haven&#039;t.  It&#039;s a problem when the players don&#039;t respect you.  Do you think they&#039;re going to bust their a** for someone like that?  Plus, when you give him such a short extension you&#039;re not sending the message that you think he&#039;s the right man for the job so in effect the players are still going to look at him like &quot;we don&#039;t have to listen to him cause he might not even be here in a year&quot;  Nothing good can come from a lame duck coach and that&#039;s essentially what he is.  I&#039;m amazed at the vote of confidence he&#039;s gotten just because they went to 7 games against the Celtics.  Avery didn&#039;t get this much sympathy and he only had the Mavs consistently at the top of the league.  I&#039;m baffled right now, I really am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He just concluded his fourth season and I&#8217;m not putting all the blame on him.  However, coaches are hired to be fired that&#8217;s the way the game is played and in my opinion being EXTREMELY close to the situation I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s the best option.  There are plenty of coaches who haven&#8217;t had a perfect roster, but they find ways to utilize whatever skill sets their players may have.  He hasn&#8217;t done that.  He hasn&#8217;t adjusted his system according to the personnel he has.  And, the team&#8217;s top free agent and him don&#8217;t get along as well as about 4 other players on the team.  That says a lot about his ability to get them to buy into whatever he&#8217;s teaching.  They haven&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s a problem when the players don&#8217;t respect you.  Do you think they&#8217;re going to bust their a** for someone like that?  Plus, when you give him such a short extension you&#8217;re not sending the message that you think he&#8217;s the right man for the job so in effect the players are still going to look at him like &#8220;we don&#8217;t have to listen to him cause he might not even be here in a year&#8221;  Nothing good can come from a lame duck coach and that&#8217;s essentially what he is.  I&#8217;m amazed at the vote of confidence he&#8217;s gotten just because they went to 7 games against the Celtics.  Avery didn&#8217;t get this much sympathy and he only had the Mavs consistently at the top of the league.  I&#8217;m baffled right now, I really am.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoCo,

Sister, I feel your pain but with all due respect, i think you&#039;re not being fair to Woody. He has just completed his 3rd year as the Hawks&#039; head coach, so he&#039;s only had 3 yrs to get them out of the curse. In each of his first 3 season, their record improved  and by year 3, he got them into the playoffs and took the Celtics to 7 games in the 1st round. Like mizz said, they have the youngest team in the league and for the 1st two years, they had little to zero talent. 

Instead of placing the majority of the blame on the coach, why isn&#039;t anyone blaming the GM who snuck out of Atlanta (Billy Knight) for his terrible draft picks? Now this is not to say that I think he&#039;s the one coach out there who will get them to the NBA title -- hell, that&#039;s a crap shoot in itself. The jury is still out on that one. If he doesn&#039;t make it to the 2nd round this year, he&#039;s gone and I wouldn&#039;t be mad about it either because he would have gotten his chance. But don&#039;t expect the guy to win the NBA title with missing with what he currently has. That&#039;s unfair. 


Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoCo,</p>
<p>Sister, I feel your pain but with all due respect, i think you&#8217;re not being fair to Woody. He has just completed his 3rd year as the Hawks&#8217; head coach, so he&#8217;s only had 3 yrs to get them out of the curse. In each of his first 3 season, their record improved  and by year 3, he got them into the playoffs and took the Celtics to 7 games in the 1st round. Like mizz said, they have the youngest team in the league and for the 1st two years, they had little to zero talent. </p>
<p>Instead of placing the majority of the blame on the coach, why isn&#8217;t anyone blaming the GM who snuck out of Atlanta (Billy Knight) for his terrible draft picks? Now this is not to say that I think he&#8217;s the one coach out there who will get them to the NBA title &#8212; hell, that&#8217;s a crap shoot in itself. The jury is still out on that one. If he doesn&#8217;t make it to the 2nd round this year, he&#8217;s gone and I wouldn&#8217;t be mad about it either because he would have gotten his chance. But don&#8217;t expect the guy to win the NBA title with missing with what he currently has. That&#8217;s unfair. </p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CoCo I will trade you Vinny Del Negro for Woody.</description>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-12957</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks Woody is a good coach you are more than welcome to him.  I want one person who stands in defense of his &quot;coaching abilities&quot; to tell me that you&#039;d want him coaching your team.  Honestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks Woody is a good coach you are more than welcome to him.  I want one person who stands in defense of his &#8220;coaching abilities&#8221; to tell me that you&#8217;d want him coaching your team.  Honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/comment-page-1/#comment-12956</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mizz,

I&#039;m diggin&#039; everything you said about the Hawks &amp; coach Woodson. People don&#039;t seem to understand that he did the best he could with what he had. Billy Knight drafted the players he (Woody) was expected turn into miracles. I think he&#039;s a pretty good coach and will do even better this upcoming season. If Josh Smith is going to continue to jack up ill-advised threes as opposed to working on his mid-range and low post game, then maybe he doesn&#039;t need to be in the ATL. I hate to say it but it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mizz,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m diggin&#8217; everything you said about the Hawks &amp; coach Woodson. People don&#8217;t seem to understand that he did the best he could with what he had. Billy Knight drafted the players he (Woody) was expected turn into miracles. I think he&#8217;s a pretty good coach and will do even better this upcoming season. If Josh Smith is going to continue to jack up ill-advised threes as opposed to working on his mid-range and low post game, then maybe he doesn&#8217;t need to be in the ATL. I hate to say it but it&#8217;s true.</p>
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