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	<title>Comments on: Pele Robbed In Brazil; Carmello Anthony Will Not Be Traded To Detroit; Josh Smith In Philly? Griffey Hits 601 In Last Appearance In Yankee Stadium; Why Is Jevon Kearse&#8217;s DUI News?</title>
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		<title>By: best</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-16942</link>
		<dc:creator>best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im agree.</description>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13019</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I do think they'll trade him unless he's lights out before the trade deadline.  He can't start the season the way he finished the last one or he's done.  He's only got one year left and he makes like $13 mil.  Of course ATL Spirit will be looking to move him.  They're cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I do think they&#8217;ll trade him unless he&#8217;s lights out before the trade deadline.  He can&#8217;t start the season the way he finished the last one or he&#8217;s done.  He&#8217;s only got one year left and he makes like $13 mil.  Of course ATL Spirit will be looking to move him.  They&#8217;re cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13017</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think they will really trade Bibby? Dang, I never even thought of that possibility. If they do that, and fail to re-sign both Joshs(sp), it would be some of the dumbest moves ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think they will really trade Bibby? Dang, I never even thought of that possibility. If they do that, and fail to re-sign both Joshs(sp), it would be some of the dumbest moves ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13016</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I honestly hope he proves me wrong  I swear I do!  I want the team to do well.
Bibby will more than likely be gone by the trade deadline.  I can't see them paying to keep him because they don't wanna pay anyone and they already have a point guard on the roster stealing $25 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I honestly hope he proves me wrong  I swear I do!  I want the team to do well.<br />
Bibby will more than likely be gone by the trade deadline.  I can&#8217;t see them paying to keep him because they don&#8217;t wanna pay anyone and they already have a point guard on the roster stealing $25 million.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13015</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coco,

Woody is trying to emulate the offense that Larry Brown had in Detroit. Is he doing a good job of it, hell no (lol). He wants to run a half-court offense through Joe Johnson. The problem with that is Atlanta has no deadly outside shooters, so when Joe penetrates, who's he gonna dish to? Marvin? J-Smoove? Bibby came to the team towards the end of the year but he's streaky. The Hawks need a shooter who can consistenly make the open shot, whether it's a three or 18-footer. 

The Hawks tend to start off the game shooting jumpers instead of penetrating and kicking the ball out. I think that's because they didn't have a true point-guard. And being that Joe Johnson was the only viable threat on the team before Bibby's arrival, teams would double him and dare Marvin and Josh to beat them. But now, with Bibby here for an entire season and Al Horford becoming a force in the middle, they are now able to call more plays in an 'inside-outside' offense and free up some shooters. This way you don’t rely strictly on jump shots in the beginning. But make no mistake about it, the Hawks need another shooter....someone like Heinrich with the Bulls. 

Now i'm going to be honest here; I fully expected them to fire Woodson, even after the playoff run. I thought that if Woody got fired, they'd go after Avery. I think Flip Saunders has had his best chances to win a title and after getting to the ECF with the best starting five in the league for 3 years, he just doesn't have what it takes to get over the top. 

....and no, it's not wrong for you to want a better coach. I'm telling you that if Woody doesn't get them into the 2nd round in '09, i'll be right with you screaming for him to be fired. :-)



Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coco,</p>
<p>Woody is trying to emulate the offense that Larry Brown had in Detroit. Is he doing a good job of it, hell no (lol). He wants to run a half-court offense through Joe Johnson. The problem with that is Atlanta has no deadly outside shooters, so when Joe penetrates, who&#8217;s he gonna dish to? Marvin? J-Smoove? Bibby came to the team towards the end of the year but he&#8217;s streaky. The Hawks need a shooter who can consistenly make the open shot, whether it&#8217;s a three or 18-footer. </p>
<p>The Hawks tend to start off the game shooting jumpers instead of penetrating and kicking the ball out. I think that&#8217;s because they didn&#8217;t have a true point-guard. And being that Joe Johnson was the only viable threat on the team before Bibby&#8217;s arrival, teams would double him and dare Marvin and Josh to beat them. But now, with Bibby here for an entire season and Al Horford becoming a force in the middle, they are now able to call more plays in an &#8216;inside-outside&#8217; offense and free up some shooters. This way you don’t rely strictly on jump shots in the beginning. But make no mistake about it, the Hawks need another shooter&#8230;.someone like Heinrich with the Bulls. </p>
<p>Now i&#8217;m going to be honest here; I fully expected them to fire Woodson, even after the playoff run. I thought that if Woody got fired, they&#8217;d go after Avery. I think Flip Saunders has had his best chances to win a title and after getting to the ECF with the best starting five in the league for 3 years, he just doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to get over the top. </p>
<p>&#8230;.and no, it&#8217;s not wrong for you to want a better coach. I&#8217;m telling you that if Woody doesn&#8217;t get them into the 2nd round in &#8216;09, i&#8217;ll be right with you screaming for him to be fired. <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13012</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well since you've been watching them maybe you can help me because no one else can. What kind of offense is he running?  I've asked around and no one knows. No one. I'm not even being smug right now I honestly have been trying to figure it out for 4 years.    And it's not like they would have been firing him, his contract was up this summer.  They didn't have to extend him and when you had coaches like Avery and Flip on the market you can't tell me that Woody was the best option.  Is it wrong for me to want a better coach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since you&#8217;ve been watching them maybe you can help me because no one else can. What kind of offense is he running?  I&#8217;ve asked around and no one knows. No one. I&#8217;m not even being smug right now I honestly have been trying to figure it out for 4 years.    And it&#8217;s not like they would have been firing him, his contract was up this summer.  They didn&#8217;t have to extend him and when you had coaches like Avery and Flip on the market you can&#8217;t tell me that Woody was the best option.  Is it wrong for me to want a better coach?</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/23/pele-robbed-in-brazil-carmello-anthony-will-not-be-traded-to-detroit-josh-smith-in-philly-griffey-hits-601-in-last-appearance-in-yankee-stadium-why-is-jevon-kearses-dui-news/#comment-13010</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I never said or meant to imply that Woody is not to be blamed with some of the losses or the way his team performed at times. He should not be given a free pass. If his record was 108-222 with good players then i'd be on the "Fire Woody NOW" bandwagon. But we all know he walked into a bad situation and I don't know one coach who would've fared better being dealt the hand Woody was dealt.

The guy is not the best coach in the league (by a long shot), but i don't think he's the worse either. I didn't expect the Hawks to be competitive in Boston. To be honest, I expected the Celtics to take the Hawks in 5 (4-1). No one (and I mean absolutely no one) expected the Hawks to take the Celtics to seven games. Sure he's made some questionable moves but what coach in this league haven't made moves we've all questioned? Why did Phil Jackson sit Derek Fisher in the Finals after he was effecticve in talking the ball to the basket? Why did Doc Rivers at times sit Rondo and go with Sam Cassell instead of Eddie House, who proved he was more effective? 

What Woody showed me in the playoffs is that if his team buys into what he's trying to incorporate (play defense, move the ball around, take smart shots, be agressive), they can beat even the best of teams. However, if the team would rather take ill-advised threes(Josh Smith), play "lack-a-daisal" defense(Marvin Williams), and fear the home team(Marvin Williams, Zaza), then they'll lose on the road like they did in the 1st round. That's what I took from it. If you never give the system a chance, especially in the most trying of times, you won't ever know whether or not it will work. 

I've been watching the Hawks every since the days of Dan Roundfield. I've seen the good years and the bad years. I watch them every year, either on TV or at Phillips Arena. I won't claim to be an expert on them but I did say that they would make the playoffs this year. And I won't sit here and say Woody did a fantastic job, either. But I will say that he did the best he could with what he had. I'll even say that he did better than anyone expected him to. But again, what coach what have done better if he was dealt the hand Woody was dealt? We'll never know...........


BTW.....i'm not judging a coach on one playoff series. I've looked at what he's done with what he's been given by Billy Knight the past four years.


Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I never said or meant to imply that Woody is not to be blamed with some of the losses or the way his team performed at times. He should not be given a free pass. If his record was 108-222 with good players then i&#8217;d be on the &#8220;Fire Woody NOW&#8221; bandwagon. But we all know he walked into a bad situation and I don&#8217;t know one coach who would&#8217;ve fared better being dealt the hand Woody was dealt.</p>
<p>The guy is not the best coach in the league (by a long shot), but i don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s the worse either. I didn&#8217;t expect the Hawks to be competitive in Boston. To be honest, I expected the Celtics to take the Hawks in 5 (4-1). No one (and I mean absolutely no one) expected the Hawks to take the Celtics to seven games. Sure he&#8217;s made some questionable moves but what coach in this league haven&#8217;t made moves we&#8217;ve all questioned? Why did Phil Jackson sit Derek Fisher in the Finals after he was effecticve in talking the ball to the basket? Why did Doc Rivers at times sit Rondo and go with Sam Cassell instead of Eddie House, who proved he was more effective? </p>
<p>What Woody showed me in the playoffs is that if his team buys into what he&#8217;s trying to incorporate (play defense, move the ball around, take smart shots, be agressive), they can beat even the best of teams. However, if the team would rather take ill-advised threes(Josh Smith), play &#8220;lack-a-daisal&#8221; defense(Marvin Williams), and fear the home team(Marvin Williams, Zaza), then they&#8217;ll lose on the road like they did in the 1st round. That&#8217;s what I took from it. If you never give the system a chance, especially in the most trying of times, you won&#8217;t ever know whether or not it will work. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the Hawks every since the days of Dan Roundfield. I&#8217;ve seen the good years and the bad years. I watch them every year, either on TV or at Phillips Arena. I won&#8217;t claim to be an expert on them but I did say that they would make the playoffs this year. And I won&#8217;t sit here and say Woody did a fantastic job, either. But I will say that he did the best he could with what he had. I&#8217;ll even say that he did better than anyone expected him to. But again, what coach what have done better if he was dealt the hand Woody was dealt? We&#8217;ll never know&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;..i&#8217;m not judging a coach on one playoff series. I&#8217;ve looked at what he&#8217;s done with what he&#8217;s been given by Billy Knight the past four years.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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