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	<title>Comments on: ESPN Double Standard? Why Wasn&#8217;t Bonnie Bernstein Suspended? Will Leitch Gets Ethered the &#8220;Respectable&#8221; Way</title>
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	<description>Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Hartman</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-18428</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Streets Don't Lie...&lt;/strong&gt;

Through mismanagement and inexperience eBay has eroded the trust of millions and the publishers in the ePN program.  Read this forum post about how John Donahoe and Steve Hartman are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the affiliate marketing commun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Streets Don&#8217;t Lie&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Through mismanagement and inexperience eBay has eroded the trust of millions and the publishers in the ePN program.  Read this forum post about how John Donahoe and Steve Hartman are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the affiliate marketing commun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-16716</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urajoke,
Talk that trash elsewhere! For you to not even understand there are so many double standards in the country shows you are what your name says; A JOKE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urajoke,<br />
Talk that trash elsewhere! For you to not even understand there are so many double standards in the country shows you are what your name says; A JOKE!</p>
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		<title>By: URAJOKE</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-16711</link>
		<dc:creator>URAJOKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Bernstein was completely correct in prefacing her comments due to the hypersensitive nature of the trash in this country.  Get over yourselves.

Her comparison was a valid one and the only point of contention for anyone here is use of Palestine.  Yes, there are suicide bombers there, no, she did not say they were the exclusive base of suicide bombers in all of society... nor did she at any time state that all palestinian children are raised as such.

Jacobsen wasn't suspended for insulting catholics or Notre Dame du Lac, she was suspended for doing so in a less than professional, publicly intoxicated manner.

The first amendment should be re-written to specify 'freedom of whining' for all the far-too-sensitive-overly-liberal people residing here.  Groups like this are the reason drug dealers, child molesters, rapists, and other habitual offenders are allowed to walk away from courtrooms and incarciration only to be let freely back into society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Bernstein was completely correct in prefacing her comments due to the hypersensitive nature of the trash in this country.  Get over yourselves.</p>
<p>Her comparison was a valid one and the only point of contention for anyone here is use of Palestine.  Yes, there are suicide bombers there, no, she did not say they were the exclusive base of suicide bombers in all of society&#8230; nor did she at any time state that all palestinian children are raised as such.</p>
<p>Jacobsen wasn&#8217;t suspended for insulting catholics or Notre Dame du Lac, she was suspended for doing so in a less than professional, publicly intoxicated manner.</p>
<p>The first amendment should be re-written to specify &#8216;freedom of whining&#8217; for all the far-too-sensitive-overly-liberal people residing here.  Groups like this are the reason drug dealers, child molesters, rapists, and other habitual offenders are allowed to walk away from courtrooms and incarciration only to be let freely back into society.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13209</link>
		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda it's the truth though (smiling)</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13204</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn't matter what Bonnie says she's still hot!!! She can say anthing she wants. Anyways she sounds stupid what she said doesn't really make much sense its ok though because Bonnie's hot while Don Imus is a ugly old guy. Its a double standard but what if it was Paris Hilton was saying that she wouldn't be attacked because the media thinks shes stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what Bonnie says she&#8217;s still hot!!! She can say anthing she wants. Anyways she sounds stupid what she said doesn&#8217;t really make much sense its ok though because Bonnie&#8217;s hot while Don Imus is a ugly old guy. Its a double standard but what if it was Paris Hilton was saying that she wouldn&#8217;t be attacked because the media thinks shes stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13203</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG___________LMAO____________*gasp*_________oh________________________LMAO______________________________Oh Sankofa......oh I have tears______LMAO____that was absolutely classic...damn....i can't stop laughing.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG___________LMAO____________*gasp*_________oh________________________LMAO______________________________Oh Sankofa&#8230;&#8230;oh I have tears______LMAO____that was absolutely classic&#8230;damn&#8230;.i can&#8217;t stop laughing&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13202</link>
		<dc:creator>MODI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>note of clarity: mizzo, the above was linked a couple of days ago, but I just discovered it was to the wrong url (ESPN of all places!!) and just corrected it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>note of clarity: mizzo, the above was linked a couple of days ago, but I just discovered it was to the wrong url (ESPN of all places!!) and just corrected it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports &#38; Hitler Pt. 1: Media Hit-Job on Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13201</link>
		<dc:creator>Sports &#38; Hitler Pt. 1: Media Hit-Job on Jemele Hill &#124; Sports On My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] youth were generalized as &#8220;suicide bombers&#8221;, The Starting Five rightfully asks ESPN Double Standard: Why Wasn&#8217;t Bonnie Bernstein Suspended? And while TSF searches for answers, we might also want to ask how the likes of Jay Mariotti, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] youth were generalized as &#8220;suicide bombers&#8221;, The Starting Five rightfully asks ESPN Double Standard: Why Wasn&#8217;t Bonnie Bernstein Suspended? And while TSF searches for answers, we might also want to ask how the likes of Jay Mariotti, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13197</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breathe ya'll......</description>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13196</link>
		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric man...come on!

Don't call that a Pussy! A Pussy is a good thing. From that place comes life, human beings. And we know everybody want's to get next to some Pussy. 

That thing and its kind came out the other end.  That's why it hides in the dark to foul up the forum we have here. Even I, who've had my moments, over stand that to waste energy reasoning with a rock, is not time well spent.  Be at peace brother, your point is embraced by those who value your imput.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric man&#8230;come on!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t call that a Pussy! A Pussy is a good thing. From that place comes life, human beings. And we know everybody want&#8217;s to get next to some Pussy. </p>
<p>That thing and its kind came out the other end.  That&#8217;s why it hides in the dark to foul up the forum we have here. Even I, who&#8217;ve had my moments, over stand that to waste energy reasoning with a rock, is not time well spent.  Be at peace brother, your point is embraced by those who value your imput.</p>
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		<title>By: eric daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13194</link>
		<dc:creator>eric daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White Troll, you make me laugh but l don't have to hide behind  pseudonyms because I am willing to defend my viewpoints like a man. And not use the same racial rationale of black families, crime when A WHITE GUY feels he is losing a debate unlike yourself TROLL. Maybe you are not used to seeing a black person be "racially incorrect" without blaming whitey for their problems, I have merely stated a long-term practice when it comes to racial issues in the most ugly way to say them troll. I don't feel the need to pretend and be civil with someone who is an obvious liar and hasn't provided any proof that I am a racist. I quess it's because you don't like

                  THE UGLY TRUTH !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Troll, you make me laugh but l don&#8217;t have to hide behind  pseudonyms because I am willing to defend my viewpoints like a man. And not use the same racial rationale of black families, crime when A WHITE GUY feels he is losing a debate unlike yourself TROLL. Maybe you are not used to seeing a black person be &#8220;racially incorrect&#8221; without blaming whitey for their problems, I have merely stated a long-term practice when it comes to racial issues in the most ugly way to say them troll. I don&#8217;t feel the need to pretend and be civil with someone who is an obvious liar and hasn&#8217;t provided any proof that I am a racist. I quess it&#8217;s because you don&#8217;t like</p>
<p>                  THE UGLY TRUTH !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ESPN Games: Dressing Up Bonnie While Stripping Jemele &#124; Sports On My Mind</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13190</link>
		<dc:creator>ESPN Games: Dressing Up Bonnie While Stripping Jemele &#124; Sports On My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] following incident was touched on in very few places, one of which, though, was The Starting Five. Unfortunately it was my birthday [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hasani</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13189</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric -- of course you don't mind being called a racist "any more."  Most racists really don't care about that.  You've joined a rather large club of ignoble, ignorant, and ranting people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8212; of course you don&#8217;t mind being called a racist &#8220;any more.&#8221;  Most racists really don&#8217;t care about that.  You&#8217;ve joined a rather large club of ignoble, ignorant, and ranting people.</p>
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		<title>By: eric daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13188</link>
		<dc:creator>eric daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friedman/Hassani/Eric ? whomever you want to represent at a given time,whenever I say something you don't agree with you call me a "racist" Well being called a  "black racist" is something I don't give a damn about anymore. And at least know the terms on whom is a racist and an embrrassment sorry dude but when you are using my name or other ethnic sounding names to butress your conservative ideals on race and sports you make yourself an embrrassment.


"Racism, by its simplest definition, is discrimination based on the racial groups to which people belong. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups, or in the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits. Racism typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination."


Sorry, but the MSM is racist along with it's white sports fans who rip on black althletes because they resent the money they are being paid or should I go on  ESPN and check the comments whenever a black sports writer like Jemele Hill either right or wrong you can read the racist rantings of white males who behind a computer can and will say anything they want to making death threats against these players family members and I am an embrrassment WHITEBOY PLEASE.... You yourself are the true definition of a racial apologist for white misbehavior and since you don't have the guts to write under your true name and defend your viewpoints like a man you are PUSSY.

And since I don't have the power to oppress 180 million white americans by denying people like you your rights or use the legal and violent means then I can't be a "BLACK RACIST" or whatever that term means, but you are a bigot who is a troll instead of  looking for honest debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friedman/Hassani/Eric ? whomever you want to represent at a given time,whenever I say something you don&#8217;t agree with you call me a &#8220;racist&#8221; Well being called a  &#8220;black racist&#8221; is something I don&#8217;t give a damn about anymore. And at least know the terms on whom is a racist and an embrrassment sorry dude but when you are using my name or other ethnic sounding names to butress your conservative ideals on race and sports you make yourself an embrrassment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Racism, by its simplest definition, is discrimination based on the racial groups to which people belong. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups, or in the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits. Racism typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but the MSM is racist along with it&#8217;s white sports fans who rip on black althletes because they resent the money they are being paid or should I go on  ESPN and check the comments whenever a black sports writer like Jemele Hill either right or wrong you can read the racist rantings of white males who behind a computer can and will say anything they want to making death threats against these players family members and I am an embrrassment WHITEBOY PLEASE&#8230;. You yourself are the true definition of a racial apologist for white misbehavior and since you don&#8217;t have the guts to write under your true name and defend your viewpoints like a man you are PUSSY.</p>
<p>And since I don&#8217;t have the power to oppress 180 million white americans by denying people like you your rights or use the legal and violent means then I can&#8217;t be a &#8220;BLACK RACIST&#8221; or whatever that term means, but you are a bigot who is a troll instead of  looking for honest debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasani</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13187</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eric daniels -- same racist generalizations for you, different day.  With Mizzo I simply have a philosophical difference, and certainly respect the rationale behind his opinions even if I disagree.  Eric, on the other hand, I consider to be something of an embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eric daniels &#8212; same racist generalizations for you, different day.  With Mizzo I simply have a philosophical difference, and certainly respect the rationale behind his opinions even if I disagree.  Eric, on the other hand, I consider to be something of an embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: eric daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13185</link>
		<dc:creator>eric daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernstein is a cute, pretty non-threating white girl who doesn't challenge the prevailing "white boy sports mantra" and their sexist, racist attitudes while Jemele is an "ungrateful nigger bitch" who should be happy that ESPN made her an "affrimitive action hire" because she can't write. Like Michelle Obama any black woman who shows some comptenece (even though i sometimes disagree with her) who isn't some white boy fawning "sista" like Tracey Bingham or ghetto sterotype is a "angry black woman" and we know what that is.

Brenstein comments are more insidious because she insults Palestinians and young black ballplayers entering into the NBA as suicide bombers but she is sterotyping both Arab and Black American Men as potential terrorists or criminal- minded. I think her being an American Jew is giving her cover and since the CEO of the station is Jewish she is being protected unlike their handling of Jemele's comments which sounds tame compared to Bernstein.


And Mizzo, I never follow the NBA draft because unlike baseball, football, and hockey you never know if these players drafted in the 1st round will attain superstar status and many will end up playing overseas or be joruneyman ballplayers in the league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernstein is a cute, pretty non-threating white girl who doesn&#8217;t challenge the prevailing &#8220;white boy sports mantra&#8221; and their sexist, racist attitudes while Jemele is an &#8220;ungrateful nigger bitch&#8221; who should be happy that ESPN made her an &#8220;affrimitive action hire&#8221; because she can&#8217;t write. Like Michelle Obama any black woman who shows some comptenece (even though i sometimes disagree with her) who isn&#8217;t some white boy fawning &#8220;sista&#8221; like Tracey Bingham or ghetto sterotype is a &#8220;angry black woman&#8221; and we know what that is.</p>
<p>Brenstein comments are more insidious because she insults Palestinians and young black ballplayers entering into the NBA as suicide bombers but she is sterotyping both Arab and Black American Men as potential terrorists or criminal- minded. I think her being an American Jew is giving her cover and since the CEO of the station is Jewish she is being protected unlike their handling of Jemele&#8217;s comments which sounds tame compared to Bernstein.</p>
<p>And Mizzo, I never follow the NBA draft because unlike baseball, football, and hockey you never know if these players drafted in the 1st round will attain superstar status and many will end up playing overseas or be joruneyman ballplayers in the league.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13179</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is something to be said for “equality before the editor.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13178</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same ish different day. Not surprised at all.</description>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13177</link>
		<dc:creator>MODI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mizzo, I couldn't agree more with your point and it is not relevant to how one feels about Hill's writing. Your "loyalty" to Jemele doesn't compromise the fact that you are right even if you had no loyalty at all. Even if Hill is being treated differently by the media because she is a black woman, then ESPN and others must be called out on it. Period. Jemele is basically incidental to that principle. Equal treatment for black-female journalists is the issue. 

Bernstein's comment is clearly worse than Hill's on multiple levels, but it is true that "there's no victim" in Hill's words. Schott's Hitler reference was a semi-ENDORSEMENT of Hitler after a history of statements. Hill's comment was nothing more than "hyperbole-gone-wild". It was far more of a journalistic offense than an anti-Semitic one.  That is why no one from Jewish groups were really complaining, only Celtic fans, Imus supporters, and those offended on journalistic grounds. It is up to journalists to distinguish between "Hitler references" rather than reflexively throwing them all in the same pot.

If Jemele isn't protected then the rules will just be applied to the next black female journalist (or just black journalist) -- even if she is better than Hill by leaps and bounds. Again, this has nothing to do with Jemele.

Temple, your point is well taken that this is not the greatest example to fight for equity for black journalists, but it is still a useful one to make a point. She is the only black female journalist, so pickins are slim here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mizzo, I couldn&#8217;t agree more with your point and it is not relevant to how one feels about Hill&#8217;s writing. Your &#8220;loyalty&#8221; to Jemele doesn&#8217;t compromise the fact that you are right even if you had no loyalty at all. Even if Hill is being treated differently by the media because she is a black woman, then ESPN and others must be called out on it. Period. Jemele is basically incidental to that principle. Equal treatment for black-female journalists is the issue. </p>
<p>Bernstein&#8217;s comment is clearly worse than Hill&#8217;s on multiple levels, but it is true that &#8220;there&#8217;s no victim&#8221; in Hill&#8217;s words. Schott&#8217;s Hitler reference was a semi-ENDORSEMENT of Hitler after a history of statements. Hill&#8217;s comment was nothing more than &#8220;hyperbole-gone-wild&#8221;. It was far more of a journalistic offense than an anti-Semitic one.  That is why no one from Jewish groups were really complaining, only Celtic fans, Imus supporters, and those offended on journalistic grounds. It is up to journalists to distinguish between &#8220;Hitler references&#8221; rather than reflexively throwing them all in the same pot.</p>
<p>If Jemele isn&#8217;t protected then the rules will just be applied to the next black female journalist (or just black journalist) &#8212; even if she is better than Hill by leaps and bounds. Again, this has nothing to do with Jemele.</p>
<p>Temple, your point is well taken that this is not the greatest example to fight for equity for black journalists, but it is still a useful one to make a point. She is the only black female journalist, so pickins are slim here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okori, I have a problem with what she said because she couldn't possibly know how black athletes are being raised. How can she  even suggest that black parents are telling their children not to worry about school and that they are destined to play in the NBA? Where did she get that from? Mike and Mike love pushing that garbage on their show. So I gotta disagree with you. There isn't an analogy that can be used to illustrate her delusions. And there isn't an apology good enough to excuse her bigoted view point of people she doesn't know.



Temple3, I was trying to make a point(albeit poorly) about how silly that womans comments were. And you know if anyone would have said what I wrote about Jews on a radio show all hell would break out. A half-hearted apology would never do. Abe foxman would be screaming bloody murder. It just seems to me that a jewish woman would be much more aware of the harm that stereotyping and slandering folks can cause. foolish me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okori, I have a problem with what she said because she couldn&#8217;t possibly know how black athletes are being raised. How can she  even suggest that black parents are telling their children not to worry about school and that they are destined to play in the NBA? Where did she get that from? Mike and Mike love pushing that garbage on their show. So I gotta disagree with you. There isn&#8217;t an analogy that can be used to illustrate her delusions. And there isn&#8217;t an apology good enough to excuse her bigoted view point of people she doesn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Temple3, I was trying to make a point(albeit poorly) about how silly that womans comments were. And you know if anyone would have said what I wrote about Jews on a radio show all hell would break out. A half-hearted apology would never do. Abe foxman would be screaming bloody murder. It just seems to me that a jewish woman would be much more aware of the harm that stereotyping and slandering folks can cause. foolish me.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, where are all those angry Palestinians and Americans of Arab descent who should be angrily parading the streets over these vicious Bernstein remarks?  What's that?  You only use that as a criterion for "offensive" when it suits your agenda (Jemele Hill)?  Yeah, that's what I've come to notice.  The hypocrisy around here is really something special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, where are all those angry Palestinians and Americans of Arab descent who should be angrily parading the streets over these vicious Bernstein remarks?  What&#8217;s that?  You only use that as a criterion for &#8220;offensive&#8221; when it suits your agenda (Jemele Hill)?  Yeah, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve come to notice.  The hypocrisy around here is really something special.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jewish pizzerias?</description>
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		<title>By: Okori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric: que? I mean what does that have to do with anything except to try and prejudice the pool?

and I don't have any problem with what she said save for the fact that I thought it was a cheap writing ploy. I mean there are millions of other analogies she could have used, but she went with that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric: que? I mean what does that have to do with anything except to try and prejudice the pool?</p>
<p>and I don&#8217;t have any problem with what she said save for the fact that I thought it was a cheap writing ploy. I mean there are millions of other analogies she could have used, but she went with that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when white folks position themselves as being experts on black people. And obviously jews have been programmed to be blown up in their pizzerias for their zionist aspirations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when white folks position themselves as being experts on black people. And obviously jews have been programmed to be blown up in their pizzerias for their zionist aspirations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordi</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/06/28/espn-double-standard-why-wasnt-bonnie-bernstein-suspended/#comment-13166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple3 hit the nail on the head as to why I really hope Brandon Jennings makes it without having to succumb to the one and done NBA-NCAA rule. There is no doubt in my mind the NBA's rule is akin to a literacy test used to hold a certain class of people down so they can't participate without jumping through unnecessary hoops. Odds are there won't be a Kevin Love every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple3 hit the nail on the head as to why I really hope Brandon Jennings makes it without having to succumb to the one and done NBA-NCAA rule. There is no doubt in my mind the NBA&#8217;s rule is akin to a literacy test used to hold a certain class of people down so they can&#8217;t participate without jumping through unnecessary hoops. Odds are there won&#8217;t be a Kevin Love every year.</p>
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