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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with your last comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with your last comment.</p>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All signs point to Maggette starting and MG coming off the bench.  

For some reason they find that perfect mix of youth and experiece. That move would put the West back on notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All signs point to Maggette starting and MG coming off the bench.  </p>
<p>For some reason they find that perfect mix of youth and experiece. That move would put the West back on notice.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if they do get him it would definitely fill the void for another perimeter and athletic scorer. I think it would take some of the pressure off of Ginobli. But if they get him, how will they use him and how will he fit into Greg P&#039;s system? I would expect him to start and Manu coming off the bench. If they find a way to make it work, the Spurs could be a scary team. 

Also, remember that for the last 5 five years, they&#039;ve came back and won the title a year after they didn&#039;t make it back. So they do a solid job of coming back after not getting back to the Finals the previous year. Will the trend continue? I don&#039;t know but it will be interesting to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if they do get him it would definitely fill the void for another perimeter and athletic scorer. I think it would take some of the pressure off of Ginobli. But if they get him, how will they use him and how will he fit into Greg P&#8217;s system? I would expect him to start and Manu coming off the bench. If they find a way to make it work, the Spurs could be a scary team. </p>
<p>Also, remember that for the last 5 five years, they&#8217;ve came back and won the title a year after they didn&#8217;t make it back. So they do a solid job of coming back after not getting back to the Finals the previous year. Will the trend continue? I don&#8217;t know but it will be interesting to see.</p>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the breakdown. What do you think about the Spurs going after Maggette?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the breakdown. What do you think about the Spurs going after Maggette?</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, thanks for the reply as I wasn&#039;t sure what the word on the street was in Philly. As for as answering your question, it appears that teams CAN go over the cap to sign their own free agents. I found this explanation via google:

&quot;....Bottom line is even though there is a salary cap, there are seven exceptions that allow you to sign players and exceed the cap. It’s not a hard cap like football and hockey have.

The most commonly used exception is the Free Agent Exception. When one of your players has an expiring contract, you can sign him to a contract and exceed the cap. How much you can sign him for depends on which of the three categories he falls in. There is a) The Bird Exception, b) The Early Bird Exception, and c) The Non-Bird Exception.


(1) Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (“Bird”) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent to a first-year salary of up to the maximum player salary if he played for the team for some or all of each of the prior three consecutive seasons (or, if he changed teams, he did so by trade).

(2) Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (&quot;Early Bird&quot;) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent to a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player’s salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 108% of the average player salary for the prior season, if he played for the team for some or all of each of the prior two consecutive seasons (or, if he changed teams, he did so by trade). A contract signed using the Early Bird Exception must be for at least two seasons.

(3) Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (&quot;Non-Bird&quot;) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent who is neither a &quot;Bird&quot; nor an &quot;Early Bird&quot; player to a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 120% of the player’s salary in the last season of his prior contract, (b) 120% of the player’s applicable minimum salary for the current season, or (c) if the player is a Restricted Free Agent, his Qualifying Offer amount.&quot;

Oddly enough, this explanation came from the 76ers website. Good stuff nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, thanks for the reply as I wasn&#8217;t sure what the word on the street was in Philly. As for as answering your question, it appears that teams CAN go over the cap to sign their own free agents. I found this explanation via google:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.Bottom line is even though there is a salary cap, there are seven exceptions that allow you to sign players and exceed the cap. It’s not a hard cap like football and hockey have.</p>
<p>The most commonly used exception is the Free Agent Exception. When one of your players has an expiring contract, you can sign him to a contract and exceed the cap. How much you can sign him for depends on which of the three categories he falls in. There is a) The Bird Exception, b) The Early Bird Exception, and c) The Non-Bird Exception.</p>
<p>(1) Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (“Bird”) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent to a first-year salary of up to the maximum player salary if he played for the team for some or all of each of the prior three consecutive seasons (or, if he changed teams, he did so by trade).</p>
<p>(2) Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (&#8220;Early Bird&#8221;) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent to a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player’s salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 108% of the average player salary for the prior season, if he played for the team for some or all of each of the prior two consecutive seasons (or, if he changed teams, he did so by trade). A contract signed using the Early Bird Exception must be for at least two seasons.</p>
<p>(3) Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (&#8220;Non-Bird&#8221;) Exception. A team may re-sign its own free agent who is neither a &#8220;Bird&#8221; nor an &#8220;Early Bird&#8221; player to a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 120% of the player’s salary in the last season of his prior contract, (b) 120% of the player’s applicable minimum salary for the current season, or (c) if the player is a Restricted Free Agent, his Qualifying Offer amount.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oddly enough, this explanation came from the 76ers website. Good stuff nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 76ers brass is saying that they will sign Lou and Iggy. And from what they&#039;re saying they will match any offer.

Can teams still go over the cap to sign their own free agents?

They gave Smith everything but the key to the city yesterday, but he&#039;s gonna get that reception wherever he goes. The 76ers are offering 5 years $67 million from what I&#039;ve heard.

Golden State may go after Iggy if Brand stays in LA. If the 76ers miss out on Brand and Smith, they will go after Childress and Biedrins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 76ers brass is saying that they will sign Lou and Iggy. And from what they&#8217;re saying they will match any offer.</p>
<p>Can teams still go over the cap to sign their own free agents?</p>
<p>They gave Smith everything but the key to the city yesterday, but he&#8217;s gonna get that reception wherever he goes. The 76ers are offering 5 years $67 million from what I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>Golden State may go after Iggy if Brand stays in LA. If the 76ers miss out on Brand and Smith, they will go after Childress and Biedrins</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ronglover

If the Sixers sign Josh Smith will they be able to sign Andre Iguodala and Lou Williams? Do they have enough money to make all three of them happy? 

Also, keep in mind that the Hawks can match any deal made to Josh Smith. I&#039;m not saying that they will but they have that option and the fans here in ATL are pressuring ownership to sign both Joshs (Smith and Childress). He really wants to stay in Atlanta but it&#039;s also no secret that he doesn&#039;t see eye-to-eye with Mike Woodson. It should be interesting to see how this situation pans out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ronglover</p>
<p>If the Sixers sign Josh Smith will they be able to sign Andre Iguodala and Lou Williams? Do they have enough money to make all three of them happy? </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that the Hawks can match any deal made to Josh Smith. I&#8217;m not saying that they will but they have that option and the fans here in ATL are pressuring ownership to sign both Joshs (Smith and Childress). He really wants to stay in Atlanta but it&#8217;s also no secret that he doesn&#8217;t see eye-to-eye with Mike Woodson. It should be interesting to see how this situation pans out.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true dat eric, but let&#039;s see what the anti-Isaiah crowd will say now. Lord knows I defended Isaiah until he panicked and lost his ball sense and mind. But this team needs an overall, and (no D) Antoni won&#039;t be the one to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true dat eric, but let&#8217;s see what the anti-Isaiah crowd will say now. Lord knows I defended Isaiah until he panicked and lost his ball sense and mind. But this team needs an overall, and (no D) Antoni won&#8217;t be the one to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: eric daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanfoka, Marbury may be a better human being, but he is one selfish- assed basketball player and who would want him a s a teamate, and D-Antoni is going to pursue an uptempo game with a 19 y.o. Italian kid as his foundation with  bunch of me-first players that is funny. The Knicks should have hired Mark Jackson and rebuilt the team around Walsh and Jackson -type which are fundamentally sound players who play defense and will win in April - June instead of impressing Oct- April</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanfoka, Marbury may be a better human being, but he is one selfish- assed basketball player and who would want him a s a teamate, and D-Antoni is going to pursue an uptempo game with a 19 y.o. Italian kid as his foundation with  bunch of me-first players that is funny. The Knicks should have hired Mark Jackson and rebuilt the team around Walsh and Jackson -type which are fundamentally sound players who play defense and will win in April &#8211; June instead of impressing Oct- April</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eric daniels, I hear ya. Only he knows his reasons. Personally I can&#039;t wait for (no D) Antoni to disappoint those ass holes in the NY media, by making the knicks...win maybe 5 more games than last year.  Especially with that same line up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eric daniels, I hear ya. Only he knows his reasons. Personally I can&#8217;t wait for (no D) Antoni to disappoint those ass holes in the NY media, by making the knicks&#8230;win maybe 5 more games than last year.  Especially with that same line up.</p>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Baron will be aight in LA, he&#039;s about to turn 30, he hasn&#039;t been in any trouble before why start now.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Baron will be aight in LA, he&#8217;s about to turn 30, he hasn&#8217;t been in any trouble before why start now.?</p>
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		<title>By: delinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>delinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boom in LA with his boys? T-r-o-u-b-l-e. At least he&#039;s gonna give TSF a lot to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boom in LA with his boys? T-r-o-u-b-l-e. At least he&#8217;s gonna give TSF a lot to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
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		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it had a lot to do with the length of the contract as well.  I&#039;m all for making sure you are financially secure.  It&#039;s just a job and if we&#039;re being honest GS isn&#039;t going to win until Nellie makes them defend.  And we all know that is unlikely to happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it had a lot to do with the length of the contract as well.  I&#8217;m all for making sure you are financially secure.  It&#8217;s just a job and if we&#8217;re being honest GS isn&#8217;t going to win until Nellie makes them defend.  And we all know that is unlikely to happen!</p>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Max out at $11 Mil.</description>
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		<title>By: ronglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m losing hope that the 76ers are going to be able to sign Josh Smith. He&#039;s visiting soon but I believe Philly can only max out at $1 Mil. Option 2 is a sign and trade w/the 76ers dealing Iggy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m losing hope that the 76ers are going to be able to sign Josh Smith. He&#8217;s visiting soon but I believe Philly can only max out at $1 Mil. Option 2 is a sign and trade w/the 76ers dealing Iggy.</p>
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