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	<title>Comments on: NYOIL Interview Part II: Hip Hop Ya Don&#8217;t Stop!</title>
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	<description>Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hasani</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13780</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple3 -- your ignorant thesis presumes that the near entirety of hip hop artists are too stupid to see through the corrosive conspiracy of caucasian capitalists.  Me, I have a higher opinion of black folks.  They're simply susceptible to the same degree of crass greed as every other ethnic type in this world.  You, you cling to some stupid belief that black people are somehow morally purer at a fundamental level, but it's just that whitey intrudes on their ability to be the more righteous souls they truly are.  Riiiight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple3 &#8212; your ignorant thesis presumes that the near entirety of hip hop artists are too stupid to see through the corrosive conspiracy of caucasian capitalists.  Me, I have a higher opinion of black folks.  They&#8217;re simply susceptible to the same degree of crass greed as every other ethnic type in this world.  You, you cling to some stupid belief that black people are somehow morally purer at a fundamental level, but it&#8217;s just that whitey intrudes on their ability to be the more righteous souls they truly are.  Riiiight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13742</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or an infinite busy signal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or an infinite busy signal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13741</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jump out of the conversation the same way you jumped in - without facts, logic or a compelling point of any kind.

And take this freebie: Kiddie porn wouldn't happen if white people didn't want to make it happen, and they do.  End of story.  Now - since Fisher has the names, titles, firms and activities of the blameable whiteys in question on the music issue, I suggest you keep it moving.

Don't be a lazy tool, read his shit and take him down -- if you can.  Pick up the phone and call some of those blameworthy caucs and get their take.  Until then - dial tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jump out of the conversation the same way you jumped in - without facts, logic or a compelling point of any kind.</p>
<p>And take this freebie: Kiddie porn wouldn&#8217;t happen if white people didn&#8217;t want to make it happen, and they do.  End of story.  Now - since Fisher has the names, titles, firms and activities of the blameable whiteys in question on the music issue, I suggest you keep it moving.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a lazy tool, read his shit and take him down &#8212; if you can.  Pick up the phone and call some of those blameworthy caucs and get their take.  Until then - dial tone.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasani</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13724</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple3 -- rubbish.  Gangsta rap wouldn't happen if black people didn't want to make it happen, and they did.  End of story.  Quit blaming whitey.  An equally stupid argument would be to blame  the decline of rock music on a conspiracy by these very same record label minions to shove hip hop down the throats of the masses.  

In fact, rap is just dying the same death that all popular music forms have.  It shot it's wad in the 90s and now these chumps have nothing novel to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple3 &#8212; rubbish.  Gangsta rap wouldn&#8217;t happen if black people didn&#8217;t want to make it happen, and they did.  End of story.  Quit blaming whitey.  An equally stupid argument would be to blame  the decline of rock music on a conspiracy by these very same record label minions to shove hip hop down the throats of the masses.  </p>
<p>In fact, rap is just dying the same death that all popular music forms have.  It shot it&#8217;s wad in the 90s and now these chumps have nothing novel to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13721</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is that all the conjecture about what happened to hip hop in the 90's was ended by Michael Fisher over at his blog Assault on Black Sanity.

White folks (and he names names) who run music production and distribution companies made a unilateral decision to STEER demand away from the indigenous messages created by studious Black youth in order to establish minstrel shows of so-called Gangsta Music.

No need to guess what happened.  After that paradigm shift was announced, a so-called conscious brother or sister had to truly do for self.  Which would have been fine -- except that the Black Behavioral Moralists couldn't differentiate between one type of hip hop and another.  So, they didn't subsidize the conscious rappers and provide them with the institutional support needed to counter their ouster from the BMGs and SONYs of the world.  Nope.  They said, "We need to do better as a people.  We need to get rid of this music.  Hell, it ain't even music."  

And that's about what happened with jazz and rock and every other form of music we create.  Moralizing impedes capital accumulation.  The people with pedigree, access and attitude withhold their love (and funds) until "it" looks right, er white, enough to pass mainstream scrutiny -- because they always forget that all Black cultural production passes mainstream scrutiny.  It is the proto-mainstream...the main stream before the mainstream.

Anyway, since folks continue to forget and forget and forget and forget, our youth create more and more gold-diamond-platinum nuggets for OTHER people.  They create a new industry which we don't dominate ruthlessly and don't subsidize - then we take jobs as flunkies or A&#38;R's if you prefer.  A few of them blow up and become transitional superstars by making the devil's music - you know like Nat King Cole and Dinah Washington and Sammy Davis Junior and LL and Will Smith -- all evil on some level or other during their prime.

And then, Viola!!  A legend is born -- and we turn around and wonder how that happened.  Too many muhphukkin' Sleeping Pills!!

Keep it rollin' fellas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that all the conjecture about what happened to hip hop in the 90&#8217;s was ended by Michael Fisher over at his blog Assault on Black Sanity.</p>
<p>White folks (and he names names) who run music production and distribution companies made a unilateral decision to STEER demand away from the indigenous messages created by studious Black youth in order to establish minstrel shows of so-called Gangsta Music.</p>
<p>No need to guess what happened.  After that paradigm shift was announced, a so-called conscious brother or sister had to truly do for self.  Which would have been fine &#8212; except that the Black Behavioral Moralists couldn&#8217;t differentiate between one type of hip hop and another.  So, they didn&#8217;t subsidize the conscious rappers and provide them with the institutional support needed to counter their ouster from the BMGs and SONYs of the world.  Nope.  They said, &#8220;We need to do better as a people.  We need to get rid of this music.  Hell, it ain&#8217;t even music.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s about what happened with jazz and rock and every other form of music we create.  Moralizing impedes capital accumulation.  The people with pedigree, access and attitude withhold their love (and funds) until &#8220;it&#8221; looks right, er white, enough to pass mainstream scrutiny &#8212; because they always forget that all Black cultural production passes mainstream scrutiny.  It is the proto-mainstream&#8230;the main stream before the mainstream.</p>
<p>Anyway, since folks continue to forget and forget and forget and forget, our youth create more and more gold-diamond-platinum nuggets for OTHER people.  They create a new industry which we don&#8217;t dominate ruthlessly and don&#8217;t subsidize - then we take jobs as flunkies or A&amp;R&#8217;s if you prefer.  A few of them blow up and become transitional superstars by making the devil&#8217;s music - you know like Nat King Cole and Dinah Washington and Sammy Davis Junior and LL and Will Smith &#8212; all evil on some level or other during their prime.</p>
<p>And then, Viola!!  A legend is born &#8212; and we turn around and wonder how that happened.  Too many muhphukkin&#8217; Sleeping Pills!!</p>
<p>Keep it rollin&#8217; fellas.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13718</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice interview Miz. Sup family I've been M.I.A. for awhile working my azz off. How's everybody been doing here at TSF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice interview Miz. Sup family I&#8217;ve been M.I.A. for awhile working my azz off. How&#8217;s everybody been doing here at TSF?</p>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/11/nyoil-interview-part-ii-hip-hop-ya-dont-stop/#comment-13716</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn King Vitamin was damn sure the poor man's Capt'n Crunch. It was soggy in about 2 minutes. 

If we had Capt'n Crunch in the crib it was a good month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn King Vitamin was damn sure the poor man&#8217;s Capt&#8217;n Crunch. It was soggy in about 2 minutes. </p>
<p>If we had Capt&#8217;n Crunch in the crib it was a good month.</p>
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