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	<title>Comments on: America Goes Nuts Regarding Jesse Jackson&#8217;s Off Air Comments About Barack Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? &#124; The Starting Five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Dr. Todd Boyd Interview: History, Pop Culture, Race and Sports Part II &#124; The Starting Five</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dr. Todd Boyd Interview: History, Pop Culture, Race and Sports Part II &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and what have you represented a different generation. We saw that last year when Jesse Jackson was hatin&#8216; on Barack Obama. That&#8217;s what i was talking about. There was a generational split [...]</description>
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		<title>By: President Barack Obama &#124; The Starting Five</title>
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		<dc:creator>President Barack Obama &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even as Barack announced his candidacy, no one thought he would win. Think what you want about Jesse but you get no hate from me here because he was there through the fire hose non fires and front of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: THE NEW YORKER Too? What the Fuck!!! &#124; The Starting Five</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE NEW YORKER Too? What the Fuck!!! &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s been a rough couple days for Barack. First this then [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly Obama is not a "black leader" in the grass roots or anywhere else, like Rev. Wright said on Bill Moyers a politican and a good one at that. To me we have to redefine who represents African- American leadership. I am agreeing with Stanley Crouch which is surprisng on the article he wrote last year that Obama is not really a "Black American" in the sense that he shares our culture and politcal agenda, he is a Biracial man who is "Intergrated" into American society and sees us from the perspective of a person who grew up off the mainland and does not relate to us except as someone who can use us for politcal gain. I will be voting for Cynthia Mc Kinney in the fall because I see people like Obama as no better than the white conservative (or Democratic centrist) There is no "new black leadership' because it has always changed.

We have Black Leaders who represents our dreams, ideas and desires and they should not be chosen by White Americans and their media outlets, Patrick Buchanan needs to shut before he gets what he deserves which is a shotgun to the head. Good grief, I have never seen someone like him gets paid to talk as a "commentator" and they don't invite a black person like Adolph Reed, Ras Baraka, Chuck D, Connie Rice, Rev Wright or others who will provide a clear opposing viewpoint on these shows, instead we get Amy Holmes, Michelle Bernard, Roland Martin or some neutred Black Person like John Capeheart who are such pussies I want to hurl. I don't think Rev. Jackson said anything wrong about Sen. Obama in any sense, if anything Obama better watch out because there are Brothas and Sistas who will not vote for him because he has not outlined any agenda in the inner cities and has done that for Hispanics, Jews, Working Class Whites and others. 

Obama needs every black vote he can get and if he keeps on bashing Brothas to please Whites like some of the trolls who lurk here he will will not win in November because he will have alienated enough Blacks to  that many will vote for Nader or Mc Kinney and it would not take much maybe 5%. He is using the media to prove to the American Electorate that he will "stand up to the niggers", and with 20% of Clinton supporters not voting for him because of their racist attitudes and Hispanics and others taking a cool attitude towards him his campaign is committing politcal suicide. Obama was never a black leader like Farrakhan who could pull all the tribes together for something bigger than themselves or like King, and Malcolm.  

Obama does not represent change he is a continuation of black leaders looking out for number 1 since the black progressive movement fell in the 70's. I am afraid Black Folks will be disapointed come November and the "Bradley Effect" takes place because there will even greater hatred of whites because we are believing that white amerikkans will ignore race in the voting booth, I have the utpmost faith like the Cubs choking in October that Obama will get trounced by McCain unless he builds bridges in the Black Community amongst people who think Jackson and Wright are correct in their accessment of Sen. Obama and Michelle will not be able to massage those egos.

Read Rolling Stone last issue and look at his advisors and see where he is getting his marching orders, you will see where I  am coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly Obama is not a &#8220;black leader&#8221; in the grass roots or anywhere else, like Rev. Wright said on Bill Moyers a politican and a good one at that. To me we have to redefine who represents African- American leadership. I am agreeing with Stanley Crouch which is surprisng on the article he wrote last year that Obama is not really a &#8220;Black American&#8221; in the sense that he shares our culture and politcal agenda, he is a Biracial man who is &#8220;Intergrated&#8221; into American society and sees us from the perspective of a person who grew up off the mainland and does not relate to us except as someone who can use us for politcal gain. I will be voting for Cynthia Mc Kinney in the fall because I see people like Obama as no better than the white conservative (or Democratic centrist) There is no &#8220;new black leadership&#8217; because it has always changed.</p>
<p>We have Black Leaders who represents our dreams, ideas and desires and they should not be chosen by White Americans and their media outlets, Patrick Buchanan needs to shut before he gets what he deserves which is a shotgun to the head. Good grief, I have never seen someone like him gets paid to talk as a &#8220;commentator&#8221; and they don&#8217;t invite a black person like Adolph Reed, Ras Baraka, Chuck D, Connie Rice, Rev Wright or others who will provide a clear opposing viewpoint on these shows, instead we get Amy Holmes, Michelle Bernard, Roland Martin or some neutred Black Person like John Capeheart who are such pussies I want to hurl. I don&#8217;t think Rev. Jackson said anything wrong about Sen. Obama in any sense, if anything Obama better watch out because there are Brothas and Sistas who will not vote for him because he has not outlined any agenda in the inner cities and has done that for Hispanics, Jews, Working Class Whites and others. </p>
<p>Obama needs every black vote he can get and if he keeps on bashing Brothas to please Whites like some of the trolls who lurk here he will will not win in November because he will have alienated enough Blacks to  that many will vote for Nader or Mc Kinney and it would not take much maybe 5%. He is using the media to prove to the American Electorate that he will &#8220;stand up to the niggers&#8221;, and with 20% of Clinton supporters not voting for him because of their racist attitudes and Hispanics and others taking a cool attitude towards him his campaign is committing politcal suicide. Obama was never a black leader like Farrakhan who could pull all the tribes together for something bigger than themselves or like King, and Malcolm.  </p>
<p>Obama does not represent change he is a continuation of black leaders looking out for number 1 since the black progressive movement fell in the 70&#8217;s. I am afraid Black Folks will be disapointed come November and the &#8220;Bradley Effect&#8221; takes place because there will even greater hatred of whites because we are believing that white amerikkans will ignore race in the voting booth, I have the utpmost faith like the Cubs choking in October that Obama will get trounced by McCain unless he builds bridges in the Black Community amongst people who think Jackson and Wright are correct in their accessment of Sen. Obama and Michelle will not be able to massage those egos.</p>
<p>Read Rolling Stone last issue and look at his advisors and see where he is getting his marching orders, you will see where I  am coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MODI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why should Barack have to distance himself from those who make Whites less comfortable?" Of course he shouldn't have to.

@ mizzo, thanks for posting this and agreed that all this Jesse-Barack noise is bullshit. A little off topic, but I am interested more in your conversation about black journalists dying young (Ralph Wiley comes to mind). It would be consistent with why black folk suffer in greater rates of just about every other disease as a result of racial stress. But I could only imagine that it is that much worse in journalism. Anyway, any more names/articles you can share on this would be helpful...

@origin - you say Obama "is a politican nothing more nothing else."  IMO, this is only partly true. Of course, anyone running for president has to politic, and of course he faces a whole new set of barriers exclusive to a black candidate. But there is a difference between "compromising" and "selling your soul". Both Clintons will and have sold their soul for personal ambition. Obama has shown many times that there are limits. When he came out against the war on 2002, that was presidential career suicide, yet he put it on the line. Both his speeches on race and later petriotism were extremely unconventional and risky from a political point of view. My point is not that he deserves no criticism, but only that when judged through a political lens he is much much more than your average politician -- but still a politician.

@Origin2: completely agreed on Jesse/Al. Bottom line is warts and all, if they didn't make the call on the Jena 6, it never would have been picked up by mainstream media. It was making its way around the blogosphere for months and the only mainstream guy who picked it up was Chicago's Howard Witt. Hell, even the BBC picked up the story before CNN. People dog Sharpton all the time, but what they don't know is that after Amadou Diallo demonstrations, he was able to force some tangible changes in the NYC police department. He is again trying to do the same via Sean Bell right now. Until there is someone else that can force these changes, the plusses of Jesse and Al far outweigh their weakness.

@sankofa: I think that many will be surprised what Obama could do if he gets elected. If he somehow gets a 60-40 congress, then he can change many laws that will outlast his presidency, not to mention replace the Supreme court justices correctly. However, I haven't read all of the BAR links yet, so I will stop my optimistic (or naive?) comments right there.

@miranda, so true on Mccain...

@hasani - you definitely must be David Mac. Jesse and Al haven't accepted money from any corporation that is inconsistent with how every single United States congressman and Senator has done business since forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why should Barack have to distance himself from those who make Whites less comfortable?&#8221; Of course he shouldn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>@ mizzo, thanks for posting this and agreed that all this Jesse-Barack noise is bullshit. A little off topic, but I am interested more in your conversation about black journalists dying young (Ralph Wiley comes to mind). It would be consistent with why black folk suffer in greater rates of just about every other disease as a result of racial stress. But I could only imagine that it is that much worse in journalism. Anyway, any more names/articles you can share on this would be helpful&#8230;</p>
<p>@origin - you say Obama &#8220;is a politican nothing more nothing else.&#8221;  IMO, this is only partly true. Of course, anyone running for president has to politic, and of course he faces a whole new set of barriers exclusive to a black candidate. But there is a difference between &#8220;compromising&#8221; and &#8220;selling your soul&#8221;. Both Clintons will and have sold their soul for personal ambition. Obama has shown many times that there are limits. When he came out against the war on 2002, that was presidential career suicide, yet he put it on the line. Both his speeches on race and later petriotism were extremely unconventional and risky from a political point of view. My point is not that he deserves no criticism, but only that when judged through a political lens he is much much more than your average politician &#8212; but still a politician.</p>
<p>@Origin2: completely agreed on Jesse/Al. Bottom line is warts and all, if they didn&#8217;t make the call on the Jena 6, it never would have been picked up by mainstream media. It was making its way around the blogosphere for months and the only mainstream guy who picked it up was Chicago&#8217;s Howard Witt. Hell, even the BBC picked up the story before CNN. People dog Sharpton all the time, but what they don&#8217;t know is that after Amadou Diallo demonstrations, he was able to force some tangible changes in the NYC police department. He is again trying to do the same via Sean Bell right now. Until there is someone else that can force these changes, the plusses of Jesse and Al far outweigh their weakness.</p>
<p>@sankofa: I think that many will be surprised what Obama could do if he gets elected. If he somehow gets a 60-40 congress, then he can change many laws that will outlast his presidency, not to mention replace the Supreme court justices correctly. However, I haven&#8217;t read all of the BAR links yet, so I will stop my optimistic (or naive?) comments right there.</p>
<p>@miranda, so true on Mccain&#8230;</p>
<p>@hasani - you definitely must be David Mac. Jesse and Al haven&#8217;t accepted money from any corporation that is inconsistent with how every single United States congressman and Senator has done business since forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks DA. Coming from you that's quite an honor. Give me a shout when you can.</description>
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