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		<title>By: Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? &#124; The Starting Five</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-30693</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] subject (what I can find): here, here (digging the snow), here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and last but not least, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yet Another Bad Example of Satire President Obama Will Have to Deal With &#124; The Starting Five</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-23389</link>
		<dc:creator>Yet Another Bad Example of Satire President Obama Will Have to Deal With &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not gonna get all hot like I did here (I meant every word of it) after the New Yorker went mainstream mob crazy, because this imagery is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-18309</link>
		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Barack gets in, he&#039;s a hottie in anybody&#039;s language!  

But why the hell would he want the job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Barack gets in, he&#8217;s a hottie in anybody&#8217;s language!  </p>
<p>But why the hell would he want the job?</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-14278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What world do you live in? In my work, it&#039;s all about race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What world do you live in? In my work, it&#8217;s all about race.</p>
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		<title>By: rainbow lady</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-14273</link>
		<dc:creator>rainbow lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are you going to fucking evolve into modern day human beings and realize no one will ever get anywhere until they get over their dumb ass black and white shit!!
Listen to Bob Marley or better yet, go read something worthy like one of Haile Selassie I&#039;s speaches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are you going to fucking evolve into modern day human beings and realize no one will ever get anywhere until they get over their dumb ass black and white shit!!<br />
Listen to Bob Marley or better yet, go read something worthy like one of Haile Selassie I&#8217;s speaches!</p>
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		<title>By: abejafuerte</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-14249</link>
		<dc:creator>abejafuerte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i found it extremely offensive also and i appreciated this reader comment that appeared on slate.com:

&quot;It&#039;s the New Yorker that&#039;s stupid, for forgetting that one of the most important elements of satire is context. Put the same drawing on a TV screen with the Fox emblem in the corner and a pair of couch potatoes parked in front of it, put that on your cover, and you&#039;ve got satire.&quot;

--expectator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found it extremely offensive also and i appreciated this reader comment that appeared on slate.com:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the New Yorker that&#8217;s stupid, for forgetting that one of the most important elements of satire is context. Put the same drawing on a TV screen with the Fox emblem in the corner and a pair of couch potatoes parked in front of it, put that on your cover, and you&#8217;ve got satire.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;expectator</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, for what it&#039;s worth folks, I&#039;m a white dude and this cover appalls me.  I honestly think that perhaps the cartoonist did think this was parody-to those who realize how slanderous all the images of Sen. and Mrs. Obama are.  However, to think that this image wouldn&#039;t be taken and manipulated and leveraged by right-wing nutjobs, and to think that the vast wastelands of ignorant white folks out there in Americaland who actually believe Rush Oxycontin and Sean Hack-ity when they promulgate some of these horrendous myths, suggests that the New Yorker is actually stealth wingnuts.  Thing is...to me......how could you even THINK to depict such an explosive image on the cover?  You KNOW what the media (if by media you mean self-satisfied millionaires circle jerking) will do with this image, and it will have no bearing on rational thought, or decency, or rationalism, or real life lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, for what it&#8217;s worth folks, I&#8217;m a white dude and this cover appalls me.  I honestly think that perhaps the cartoonist did think this was parody-to those who realize how slanderous all the images of Sen. and Mrs. Obama are.  However, to think that this image wouldn&#8217;t be taken and manipulated and leveraged by right-wing nutjobs, and to think that the vast wastelands of ignorant white folks out there in Americaland who actually believe Rush Oxycontin and Sean Hack-ity when they promulgate some of these horrendous myths, suggests that the New Yorker is actually stealth wingnuts.  Thing is&#8230;to me&#8230;&#8230;how could you even THINK to depict such an explosive image on the cover?  You KNOW what the media (if by media you mean self-satisfied millionaires circle jerking) will do with this image, and it will have no bearing on rational thought, or decency, or rationalism, or real life lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole 10/20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole 10/20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple,

It took me a long time to learn the lesson of arguing with a fool, but thankfully as I mature I have come to realize the wisdom in that saying..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple,</p>
<p>It took me a long time to learn the lesson of arguing with a fool, but thankfully as I mature I have come to realize the wisdom in that saying..</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole 10/20</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13994</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole 10/20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda,

No, mine is never an out of body experience... I am extremely aware and used to these comments.  When I first started working at this establishment every now and then a patient would say something like &quot;You are a nice girl, but I really don&#039;t like Muhammed Ali&quot; and I would have to defend his refusal to fight in Vietnam, they would always bring up random stuff like that.   Also, whenever I watch reality tv, there is always some blonde chick crying about something and that really irritates me.  

Maybe I am cold-blooded, I don&#039;t know. I do have warm hands though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda,</p>
<p>No, mine is never an out of body experience&#8230; I am extremely aware and used to these comments.  When I first started working at this establishment every now and then a patient would say something like &#8220;You are a nice girl, but I really don&#8217;t like Muhammed Ali&#8221; and I would have to defend his refusal to fight in Vietnam, they would always bring up random stuff like that.   Also, whenever I watch reality tv, there is always some blonde chick crying about something and that really irritates me.  </p>
<p>Maybe I am cold-blooded, I don&#8217;t know. I do have warm hands though.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13970</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always love Miranda.  

I just want what&#039;s best for our peace of mind.  When I went to the MMM back in the day, the Minister read passages from the Sun Book (holy - derived from helios - ray-ra-sun, something like that) quoting G-o-d&#039;s words to the nation of Is-ra-el...

The essence of it was that the nation of Israel would be &quot;angered by a foolish people.&quot;  Are we not angered by a foolish people?  The media apparatus serving white supremacist misinformation is a maddening attack on our humanity.  Now, we&#039;ve all heard the saying that the longer one argues with a fool, the more difficult it becomes for an observer to know the difference.  We have to break this cycle.

Happy hunting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always love Miranda.  </p>
<p>I just want what&#8217;s best for our peace of mind.  When I went to the MMM back in the day, the Minister read passages from the Sun Book (holy &#8211; derived from helios &#8211; ray-ra-sun, something like that) quoting G-o-d&#8217;s words to the nation of Is-ra-el&#8230;</p>
<p>The essence of it was that the nation of Israel would be &#8220;angered by a foolish people.&#8221;  Are we not angered by a foolish people?  The media apparatus serving white supremacist misinformation is a maddening attack on our humanity.  Now, we&#8217;ve all heard the saying that the longer one argues with a fool, the more difficult it becomes for an observer to know the difference.  We have to break this cycle.</p>
<p>Happy hunting.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13961</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn T3, I was gonna go to bed early....now I wanna read more on this and gotta google...when I&#039;m sleepy tomorrow working for &quot;the man&quot;, it will be your fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn T3, I was gonna go to bed early&#8230;.now I wanna read more on this and gotta google&#8230;when I&#8217;m sleepy tomorrow working for &#8220;the man&#8221;, it will be your fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13960</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we&#039;re not marching and singing &quot;We Shall Overcome&quot; (and I&#039;m truly with you on that), what could be better than a glorious, victorious depiction of two Africans having seized the apparatus of the empire in a way that Hannibal himself could have only dreamed.

Toiling for a DECADE and a HALF in the countryside of Italy simply because politicians at home in Carthage were afraid to push the button, Hannibal Barca waited and waited and waited.  

For all of his conquering, Alexander the so-called Great never dared take his young, fair, fairy ass down to Ethiopia where the Candaces were riding atop elephants waiting to kick his ass and anyone else who might dare act a fool.

For more than 700 years, jet black people from the Sudan and some lesser than jet black occupied the Iberian Peninsula and brought about the end of a Dark Age that Europe seemed to want to remain in.

Algiers, Tunis and Constantinople were slave trading capitals for Barbary pirates who snatched up hundreds of thousands of Europeans over several centuries.  All that blond hair and blue eyes that Minister Malcolm saw in his trip to the Holy Land of the Arab came from somewhere.  Bound in the chains of another land, many, many Europeans became what the world would come to know as desperadoes who renounced Christianity, claimed Islam and began new lives.

My people suffer from a woeful lack of knowledge.  So says the Minister of this era.  These images are not mere caricatures of an imagined future --- they&#039;re subconscious recollections of a lived past.  You may be offended, but it&#039;s only a reflection of that which has already transpired of which you&#039;re likely unaware.  

That&#039;s why I couldn&#039;t get too upset.  I was way too busy ROTFLMBAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we&#8217;re not marching and singing &#8220;We Shall Overcome&#8221; (and I&#8217;m truly with you on that), what could be better than a glorious, victorious depiction of two Africans having seized the apparatus of the empire in a way that Hannibal himself could have only dreamed.</p>
<p>Toiling for a DECADE and a HALF in the countryside of Italy simply because politicians at home in Carthage were afraid to push the button, Hannibal Barca waited and waited and waited.  </p>
<p>For all of his conquering, Alexander the so-called Great never dared take his young, fair, fairy ass down to Ethiopia where the Candaces were riding atop elephants waiting to kick his ass and anyone else who might dare act a fool.</p>
<p>For more than 700 years, jet black people from the Sudan and some lesser than jet black occupied the Iberian Peninsula and brought about the end of a Dark Age that Europe seemed to want to remain in.</p>
<p>Algiers, Tunis and Constantinople were slave trading capitals for Barbary pirates who snatched up hundreds of thousands of Europeans over several centuries.  All that blond hair and blue eyes that Minister Malcolm saw in his trip to the Holy Land of the Arab came from somewhere.  Bound in the chains of another land, many, many Europeans became what the world would come to know as desperadoes who renounced Christianity, claimed Islam and began new lives.</p>
<p>My people suffer from a woeful lack of knowledge.  So says the Minister of this era.  These images are not mere caricatures of an imagined future &#8212; they&#8217;re subconscious recollections of a lived past.  You may be offended, but it&#8217;s only a reflection of that which has already transpired of which you&#8217;re likely unaware.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I couldn&#8217;t get too upset.  I was way too busy ROTFLMBAO.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13959</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO!! Yep! That&#039;s the one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO!! Yep! That&#8217;s the one!</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-too-what-the-fuck/comment-page-2/#comment-13958</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda are you talking about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/18/a-blog-saves-a-white-woman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moment&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda are you talking about this <a href="http://thestartingfive.net/2008/05/18/a-blog-saves-a-white-woman/" rel="nofollow">moment</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole,
I&#039;ve had that moment.......its quite a revelation when you are at the receiving end of a &quot;Miss Ann&quot; moment. You really don&#039;t know how you&#039;ll respond until it actually happens...and then, let me guess...was it almost like an out of body experience? Mine was....I swear, I think the spirit of my grandmother came up in me or something because  I had no control over my faculties and afterwards it was like I just...came too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole,<br />
I&#8217;ve had that moment&#8230;&#8230;.its quite a revelation when you are at the receiving end of a &#8220;Miss Ann&#8221; moment. You really don&#8217;t know how you&#8217;ll respond until it actually happens&#8230;and then, let me guess&#8230;was it almost like an out of body experience? Mine was&#8230;.I swear, I think the spirit of my grandmother came up in me or something because  I had no control over my faculties and afterwards it was like I just&#8230;came too.</p>
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