Comments on: What Are Your Thoughts On the Brett Farve Trade From Green Bay to New York? http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/ Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:00:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Matthew Fudge http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14627 Matthew Fudge Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:03:46 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14627 Hope you don't mind if I segue to another point. I just saw the Rules of Discourse page. Had to stop when I saw "Free speech ain’t free." You ain't never lied. Reminds me of two quotes: "Freedom of speech - just watch what you say." - Ice-T "We Americans don't have rights. We have privileges. They can be taken from us at any time." - George Carlin Hope you don’t mind if I segue to another point.

I just saw the Rules of Discourse page. Had to stop when I saw “Free speech ain’t free.” You ain’t never lied. Reminds me of two quotes:

“Freedom of speech - just watch what you say.” - Ice-T

“We Americans don’t have rights. We have privileges. They can be taken from us at any time.” - George Carlin

]]> By: TC http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14625 TC Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:58:16 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14625 Michelle-agree with ya about Favre's performance. I think Montana was better. He knew (roughly) when to quit. Hell, Warren Moon was real productive too, for that matter. But to compare MJ and Favre.......please. MJ owned the league his whole time in it till '98. When he came back I thought it was a bit of a desperate move but the man could still play some. Favre has been livin' off the generosity of the media for the last few years. Yeah, he had a decent year last year but before that, he'd been mediocre. MJ knew when to call it quits. Still, for me, the athlete with the most sense-comparable to the idea in showbiz that you always leave 'em wanting more-was Barry Sanders. Left at the top of his game and we never hear a word from him. He was the best. Michelle-agree with ya about Favre’s performance. I think Montana was better. He knew (roughly) when to quit. Hell, Warren Moon was real productive too, for that matter. But to compare MJ and Favre…….please. MJ owned the league his whole time in it till ‘98. When he came back I thought it was a bit of a desperate move but the man could still play some. Favre has been livin’ off the generosity of the media for the last few years. Yeah, he had a decent year last year but before that, he’d been mediocre. MJ knew when to call it quits. Still, for me, the athlete with the most sense-comparable to the idea in showbiz that you always leave ‘em wanting more-was Barry Sanders. Left at the top of his game and we never hear a word from him. He was the best.

]]> By: TC http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14624 TC Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:54:36 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14624 This man Favre makes Clemens look humble. I thought Favre should have retired in '03 when he couldn't lead his team to a comeback as he usually did during his career. He's been mediocre/bad pretty much since then. Now he plays footsie with the media and can't quit with even a shred of dignity. Of course, if there was <b>any</b> kind of skeptical media in this country, his ego would not have been so assuaged. But the media is perhaps more craven even than him. I am glad that I'm really not much of a football fan and don't have cable so I don't see much of this douchebag. I'm real sorry the Jets released Pennington to Favre's benefit. Yeah Pennington has been somewhat inconsistent but he had a much better attitude and he has some talent. SOOOO sick of all this ish. This man Favre makes Clemens look humble. I thought Favre should have retired in ‘03 when he couldn’t lead his team to a comeback as he usually did during his career. He’s been mediocre/bad pretty much since then. Now he plays footsie with the media and can’t quit with even a shred of dignity. Of course, if there was any kind of skeptical media in this country, his ego would not have been so assuaged. But the media is perhaps more craven even than him. I am glad that I’m really not much of a football fan and don’t have cable so I don’t see much of this douchebag. I’m real sorry the Jets released Pennington to Favre’s benefit. Yeah Pennington has been somewhat inconsistent but he had a much better attitude and he has some talent. SOOOO sick of all this ish.

]]> By: thebrotherreport http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14623 thebrotherreport Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:28:35 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14623 If there was anyway possible for a man to conceive Madden would be first in line. Call it the Ejaculate Reception! He's already inquired about cloning Favre. If there was anyway possible for a man to conceive Madden would be first in line.

Call it the Ejaculate Reception!

He’s already inquired about cloning Favre.

]]> By: Matthew Fudge http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14622 Matthew Fudge Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:59:20 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14622 You know I ain't lyin', Nubian!! Madden should just move in with Brett and get it over with. You know I ain’t lyin’, Nubian!! Madden should just move in with Brett and get it over with.

]]> By: GrandNubian http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14621 GrandNubian Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:57:37 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14621 LOL......you guys are cracking me up! LOL……you guys are cracking me up!

]]> By: Matthew Fudge http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14613 Matthew Fudge Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:37:06 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14613 Guess there's no reason for them to care as long as their checks keep clearing. Guess there’s no reason for them to care as long as their checks keep clearing.

]]> By: ronglover http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14612 ronglover Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:35:50 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14612 Actually they compare stains to see whose love for Fav-re is greater Actually they compare stains to see whose love for Fav-re is greater

]]> By: Matthew Fudge http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14609 Matthew Fudge Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:29:17 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14609 Speaking of Berman, how long do you think it takes him and John Madden to get the brown stains off their faces? Speaking of Berman, how long do you think it takes him and John Madden to get the brown stains off their faces?

]]> By: The Most Known Unknown http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14608 The Most Known Unknown Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:26:56 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14608 I'm really sick of hearing about JET Farve. I’m really sick of hearing about JET Farve.

]]> By: ronglover http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14607 ronglover Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:17:33 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14607 Wow! Berman finally got over Montana huh :-) Wow! Berman finally got over Montana huh :-)

]]> By: GrandNubian http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14603 GrandNubian Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:25:36 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14603 "John Madden’s mancrush continues for at least another season." Yeah, and you can add Chris Berman's name to that list as well. “John Madden’s mancrush continues for at least another season.”

Yeah, and you can add Chris Berman’s name to that list as well.

]]> By: ronglover http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14602 ronglover Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:19:10 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14602 I'm curious to see his response to the NY Media if the Jets start out 2-4 and he's still struggling to jell with his receivers. I'm wondering if Mangini is going to simplify the offense some to Farve's liking. September 14th and November 13th will be against the Pats. John Madden's mancrush continues for at least another season. I’m curious to see his response to the NY Media if the Jets start out 2-4 and he’s still struggling to jell with his receivers. I’m wondering if Mangini is going to simplify the offense some to Farve’s liking. September 14th and November 13th will be against the Pats.

John Madden’s mancrush continues for at least another season.

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14596 michelle Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:22:17 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14596 No! Farve isn't on Jordans level. Jordan was the best at his position to ever play basketball and many say he was the best player period. Farve isn't the best qb to ever play in the NFL. Joe Montana is. Farve has just played the longest. He didn't even have the best performance on his team during the Super Bowl Green Bay won. Jordan was always the star of the show. Farve has had a great career thus far but Jordan.....HELL NO! No! Farve isn’t on Jordans level. Jordan was the best at his position to ever play basketball and many say he was the best player period. Farve isn’t the best qb to ever play in the NFL. Joe Montana is. Farve has just played the longest. He didn’t even have the best performance on his team during the Super Bowl Green Bay won. Jordan was always the star of the show. Farve has had a great career thus far but Jordan…..HELL NO!

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14595 michelle Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:13:12 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14595 I've been to Green Bay and the football team is the most important part of the city. The fans there live for the Packers. I’ve been to Green Bay and the football team is the most important part of the city. The fans there live for the Packers.

]]> By: michelle http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14594 michelle Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:11:09 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14594 I know the fans in Greenbay feel betrayed. Farve really wants to be a Viking. Packer fans are probably so mad at him that their cheese heads are melting. I know the fans in Greenbay feel betrayed. Farve really wants to be a Viking. Packer fans are probably so mad at him that their cheese heads are melting.

]]> By: GrandNubian http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14590 GrandNubian Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:18:43 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14590 I heard on NFL Network that the Packers made sure that there was a clause included as part of the trade to the Jets that would prevent Favre from being traded to ANY team in the NFC North. So Favre will NEVER play for a team in the NFC North again. I heard on NFL Network that the Packers made sure that there was a clause included as part of the trade to the Jets that would prevent Favre from being traded to ANY team in the NFC North.

So Favre will NEVER play for a team in the NFC North again.

]]> By: CEvidence http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14589 CEvidence Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:13:35 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14589 The Jets would be stupid to trade Favre to the Vikings. Green Bay isnt dumb, a contidion of the trade is if they trade Farve to Minnesota, that draft pick that they gave to Green Bay becomes THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!!! Is he worth that? The Jets would be stupid to trade Favre to the Vikings. Green Bay isnt dumb, a contidion of the trade is if they trade Farve to Minnesota, that draft pick that they gave to Green Bay becomes THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!!! Is he worth that?

]]> By: Jdubb http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14587 Jdubb Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:18:47 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14587 Maybe I am evil like that but if I am Minnesota, I am so trying to trade something to get Brett Favre from the JETS. Screw you GB, we got him anyway. CoCo hit it,...The Madden Jinx is on(August 12 in my PX), however he did retire and the come back,. maybe Favre is just doing this to kill the jinx once in for all to be the sacraficial lamb for ever other player that will grace a Madden cover, I dunno seriously, I am so done with Favre, I dont care who he plays for or doesn't let's just get the season started Maybe I am evil like that but if I am Minnesota, I am so trying to trade something to get Brett Favre from the JETS. Screw you GB, we got him anyway.
CoCo hit it,…The Madden Jinx is on(August 12 in my PX), however he did retire and the come back,. maybe Favre is just doing this to kill the jinx once in for all to be the sacraficial lamb for ever other player that will grace a Madden cover, I dunno
seriously, I am so done with Favre, I dont care who he plays for or doesn’t let’s just get the season started

]]> By: Co Co http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14581 Co Co Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:34:26 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14581 No one disputes what he means to Green Bay, but that does not give him the right to act like he's bigger than the NFL. He could have thrown his weight around in a manner more fitting of a legend. Instead he turned into everything that people complain about with the typical American athlete. No one disputes what he means to Green Bay, but that does not give him the right to act like he’s bigger than the NFL. He could have thrown his weight around in a manner more fitting of a legend. Instead he turned into everything that people complain about with the typical American athlete.

]]> By: Okori http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14580 Okori Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:23:21 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14580 It's a wild shame what Brett Favre was allowed to do. He retired multip times only to come back right as the team starts training camp and immediately expects to be the starter. And Matthew is right. If Randall Cunningham did this there'd be a mutiny. And Mizz.... I'm still waiting. It’s a wild shame what Brett Favre was allowed to do. He retired multip times only to come back right as the team starts training camp and immediately expects to be the starter. And Matthew is right. If Randall Cunningham did this there’d be a mutiny.

And Mizz…. I’m still waiting.

]]> By: Jerold Wells Jr. http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14578 Jerold Wells Jr. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:51:40 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14578 Few thoughts...... Favre is one of the greatest QBs ever. I'm gonna say top ten all time. This is a guy who resurrected a franchise. Think about it ya'll. I know you've seen the SC highlights of wins, playoff appearances, and general relevance pre Favre. The team was in shambles and he changed that. Say what you want about him as a teammate, prima donna, and/or celebrity but the guy has earned the majority of the butt kissing he recieves. Think of the WRs TEs and RBs hes played with. Who really sticks out? Sharpe? Driver? Walker? Ferguson? Rison? (for a hot second) Edgar Bennett? Dorsey Levens? Ryan Grant? Bubba Franks? Chmura? Give me a HOFer in the bunch. Don't worry, I'll wait. Maybe Sharpe if he didn't get hurt. The common denominator was Favre. So what if he can do no wrong in the eyes of the MSM, we too have our heros. I feel the worst for Chad Pennington. This is a guy who's taken the Jets to the playoffs and now he's looking at the freaking Dolphins. I'd like to seem him catch on with a team that's a QB away because I really think he has the talent to put, say, Chicago, Baltimore, Buffalo, or Minnesota over the hump. I may think too much of him but that's the way it goes sometimes. Few thoughts……

Favre is one of the greatest QBs ever. I’m gonna say top ten all time. This is a guy who resurrected a franchise. Think about it ya’ll. I know you’ve seen the SC highlights of wins, playoff appearances, and general relevance pre Favre. The team was in shambles and he changed that. Say what you want about him as a teammate, prima donna, and/or celebrity but the guy has earned the majority of the butt kissing he recieves. Think of the WRs TEs and RBs hes played with. Who really sticks out?

Sharpe? Driver? Walker? Ferguson? Rison? (for a hot second)
Edgar Bennett? Dorsey Levens? Ryan Grant?
Bubba Franks? Chmura?

Give me a HOFer in the bunch. Don’t worry, I’ll wait. Maybe Sharpe if he didn’t get hurt. The common denominator was Favre. So what if he can do no wrong in the eyes of the MSM, we too have our heros.

I feel the worst for Chad Pennington. This is a guy who’s taken the Jets to the playoffs and now he’s looking at the freaking Dolphins. I’d like to seem him catch on with a team that’s a QB away because I really think he has the talent to put, say, Chicago, Baltimore, Buffalo, or Minnesota over the hump. I may think too much of him but that’s the way it goes sometimes.

]]> By: Boney http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14576 Boney Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:10:14 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14576 I think it's unfair to Byron Leftwich that Brett Favre immediately gets the opportunity to start in New York while Byron can't get a job anywhere I think it’s unfair to Byron Leftwich that Brett Favre immediately gets the opportunity to start in New York while Byron can’t get a job anywhere

]]> By: Matthew Fudge http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14575 Matthew Fudge Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:09:48 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14575 Yet one more example that it pays to white in this country. I lost respect for him once he broke a Man Law by sticking his nose in Javon Walker's business during his contract dispute. You don't mess with another grown man's money like that. But Walker knew he couldn't win a media war with Brett Favre, so he took the high road and didn't respond. Now he's doing his little diva, take-me-back thing and it's getting on my last nerves. Believe me, Favre's always been a diva. No way you can stay humble when the fans and media keep telling you that the sun rises and sets when you say so. It's just that in the last few years, it's become obvious. No way T.O. or Chad Johnson could get away with that. They'd never hear the end of it. But good ol' Caucasian country-boy Favre gets a pass. Go ahead and think race has nothing to do with it. You're crazy. Yet one more example that it pays to white in this country. I lost respect for him once he broke a Man Law by sticking his nose in Javon Walker’s business during his contract dispute. You don’t mess with another grown man’s money like that. But Walker knew he couldn’t win a media war with Brett Favre, so he took the high road and didn’t respond. Now he’s doing his little diva, take-me-back thing and it’s getting on my last nerves. Believe me, Favre’s always been a diva. No way you can stay humble when the fans and media keep telling you that the sun rises and sets when you say so. It’s just that in the last few years, it’s become obvious. No way T.O. or Chad Johnson could get away with that. They’d never hear the end of it. But good ol’ Caucasian country-boy Favre gets a pass. Go ahead and think race has nothing to do with it. You’re crazy.

]]> By: Co Co http://thestartingfive.net/2008/08/07/what-are-your-thoughts-on-the-brett-farve-trade-from-green-bay-to-new-york/#comment-14574 Co Co Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:05:21 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=1337#comment-14574 I probably shouldn't say that because I don't want anyone to get hurt, but I'm just saying I hope he has an unbelievably bad season! Like Horrible. Like throwing more interceptions than touchdowns horri.... oh, he's done that before ;) I probably shouldn’t say that because I don’t want anyone to get hurt, but I’m just saying I hope he has an unbelievably bad season! Like Horrible. Like throwing more interceptions than touchdowns horri…. oh, he’s done that before ;)

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