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	<title>Comments on: Leave Josh Alone</title>
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		<title>By: Hacked!: Todd Palin&#8217;s Open Email to Josh Howard on The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Patriots &#124; Sports On My Mind</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17733</link>
		<dc:creator>Hacked!: Todd Palin&#8217;s Open Email to Josh Howard on The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Patriots &#124; Sports On My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so pay very close attention because this can get tricky. Sure, you&#8217;ve received many responses from all those e-bigots, but this is much bigger than that! The truth is that you did this to yourself, and now you are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so pay very close attention because this can get tricky. Sure, you&#8217;ve received many responses from all those e-bigots, but this is much bigger than that! The truth is that you did this to yourself, and now you are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17558</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish Josh would've apologized for how he came across instead of what he actually said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-mavericks-howard&#38;prov=ap&#38;type=lgns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish Josh would&#8217;ve apologized for how he came across instead of what he actually said.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-mavericks-howard&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-mavericks-howard&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17317</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I find funny about all of this, is that Josh Howard, a black man, is being criticized for not "respecting" a song written by a slave owner. Only in America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I find funny about all of this, is that Josh Howard, a black man, is being criticized for not &#8220;respecting&#8221; a song written by a slave owner. Only in America!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17301</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's like DL Hughley said recently, "Free speech is a zero-sum proposition.  Either you believe in it or you don't."  I'd love to hear someone in a position of power in Washington, D.C. just come out and admit that there really is no such thing as free speech (pipe dream, I know).  But the lie must be kept alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like DL Hughley said recently, &#8220;Free speech is a zero-sum proposition.  Either you believe in it or you don&#8217;t.&#8221;  I&#8217;d love to hear someone in a position of power in Washington, D.C. just come out and admit that there really is no such thing as free speech (pipe dream, I know).  But the lie must be kept alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17300</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple, I don't know that perfection is the reason why.  I do know that in the year 2008, it'll take a miracle of biblical proportions for black folk to come together as one regarding anything of importance.  One thing I appreciate about the '60s:  people of all races in this country made their leaders accountable.  We protested, asked questions, didn't let people spit on us and call it rain.  Fast forward to 2008.  People can't spell "protest", let alone do it.  It's not just black people.  Americans of every race and creed have reached a level of clueless and apathy that I didn't think possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple, I don&#8217;t know that perfection is the reason why.  I do know that in the year 2008, it&#8217;ll take a miracle of biblical proportions for black folk to come together as one regarding anything of importance.  One thing I appreciate about the &#8217;60s:  people of all races in this country made their leaders accountable.  We protested, asked questions, didn&#8217;t let people spit on us and call it rain.  Fast forward to 2008.  People can&#8217;t spell &#8220;protest&#8221;, let alone do it.  It&#8217;s not just black people.  Americans of every race and creed have reached a level of clueless and apathy that I didn&#8217;t think possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17299</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dredded:

I can understand you frustration...believe me I can.

But...I don't think it's fair to hate on him because of the context.  It's not like he used the camera phone, then called a press conference to talk about his three second blip.  It was a totally impromptu moment.  When he has been asked about things of that sort, in a more formal context, he spoke up.  According to DZ, it cost this former ACC Player of the Year a lofty draft status and several million dollars.  

We ain't perfect, ain't been perfect, ain't gon be perfect, don't wanna be perfect.  We have the inalienable human right to fail.  And, he didn't fail...on the court or off.  He's the coldest dude on his team.  Weed, as any dreaded one must know, is a gift of the creator -- just like air and water, but wholly unlike Vicodin and Percoset.  

He said what he said...how he said it.  Either he has the right to say it OR he doesn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dredded:</p>
<p>I can understand you frustration&#8230;believe me I can.</p>
<p>But&#8230;I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to hate on him because of the context.  It&#8217;s not like he used the camera phone, then called a press conference to talk about his three second blip.  It was a totally impromptu moment.  When he has been asked about things of that sort, in a more formal context, he spoke up.  According to DZ, it cost this former ACC Player of the Year a lofty draft status and several million dollars.  </p>
<p>We ain&#8217;t perfect, ain&#8217;t been perfect, ain&#8217;t gon be perfect, don&#8217;t wanna be perfect.  We have the inalienable human right to fail.  And, he didn&#8217;t fail&#8230;on the court or off.  He&#8217;s the coldest dude on his team.  Weed, as any dreaded one must know, is a gift of the creator &#8212; just like air and water, but wholly unlike Vicodin and Percoset.  </p>
<p>He said what he said&#8230;how he said it.  Either he has the right to say it OR he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17298</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew:

The players won't do shit.  They should, but they won't.  Why?  Because Josh Howard isn't PERFECT.  Negroes have to be PERFECT in order to get the support of other Negroes.  Negroes have to be PERFECT even when their rights are in danger of suppression...even when their lives are threatened.

To be PERFECT, you have to be meek, docile, intelligent, sacrificial, and perceived as undeserving of a cruel fate.  You cannot have any record of prior arrests, convictions, back-talking, white women, drunk driving (that's reserved for white folks like LaRussa, etc.).  You cannot belong to any organizations (You know - you have to be disorganized.)  No Nation of Islam, heck, no notions of Islam.  You could have a preacher - but you can't be a member of the church.  You have to be a lost soul who is being claimed - redeemed - like a piece of plantation property.  You can't have tattoos.  You can't listen to hip hop.  Heavy metal is okay though.  No weed (it makes white women loose - at least that's what they said in the 50's....maybe shit's changed.)

You have to be perfect.  No ifs, ands or blunts.

It doesn't hurt if you're "not all the way Black" (Sheffield-ism).  Though, we can't honestly say if that helps a whole helluva lot either.  Light-skinndeddeddeddeddedness and red hair didn't save El Hajj Malik el-Shabazz from catching a hail of Mary's finest bullets.  Either way, I don't think Josh can count on the support of his comrades in charms.  Nope...too many strippers to hit off...too many rims to buy...too many owners who need knobs slobbed by brainless 7 footers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew:</p>
<p>The players won&#8217;t do shit.  They should, but they won&#8217;t.  Why?  Because Josh Howard isn&#8217;t PERFECT.  Negroes have to be PERFECT in order to get the support of other Negroes.  Negroes have to be PERFECT even when their rights are in danger of suppression&#8230;even when their lives are threatened.</p>
<p>To be PERFECT, you have to be meek, docile, intelligent, sacrificial, and perceived as undeserving of a cruel fate.  You cannot have any record of prior arrests, convictions, back-talking, white women, drunk driving (that&#8217;s reserved for white folks like LaRussa, etc.).  You cannot belong to any organizations (You know - you have to be disorganized.)  No Nation of Islam, heck, no notions of Islam.  You could have a preacher - but you can&#8217;t be a member of the church.  You have to be a lost soul who is being claimed - redeemed - like a piece of plantation property.  You can&#8217;t have tattoos.  You can&#8217;t listen to hip hop.  Heavy metal is okay though.  No weed (it makes white women loose - at least that&#8217;s what they said in the 50&#8217;s&#8230;.maybe shit&#8217;s changed.)</p>
<p>You have to be perfect.  No ifs, ands or blunts.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t hurt if you&#8217;re &#8220;not all the way Black&#8221; (Sheffield-ism).  Though, we can&#8217;t honestly say if that helps a whole helluva lot either.  Light-skinndeddeddeddeddedness and red hair didn&#8217;t save El Hajj Malik el-Shabazz from catching a hail of Mary&#8217;s finest bullets.  Either way, I don&#8217;t think Josh can count on the support of his comrades in charms.  Nope&#8230;too many strippers to hit off&#8230;too many rims to buy&#8230;too many owners who need knobs slobbed by brainless 7 footers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dredded One</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17297</link>
		<dc:creator>Dredded One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm mad at Josh.  Its like M Fudge said earlier.  If he felt compelled to make a statement, be intelligent in words and action.  If I were to say something like that, no one would care.  He is a notable presence.  Its a shame and an embarrassment with atheletes use their celebrity to promote ignorance.  You would hope that even they would grow tired of being the ones that help grow bullshit like entertainment and sports. (yes, as much as we all love it, in the grand scheme of things sports is bullshit)  There's nothing wrong with his viewpoints at all, the conveyance is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mad at Josh.  Its like M Fudge said earlier.  If he felt compelled to make a statement, be intelligent in words and action.  If I were to say something like that, no one would care.  He is a notable presence.  Its a shame and an embarrassment with atheletes use their celebrity to promote ignorance.  You would hope that even they would grow tired of being the ones that help grow bullshit like entertainment and sports. (yes, as much as we all love it, in the grand scheme of things sports is bullshit)  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with his viewpoints at all, the conveyance is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17296</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to tell you, Harvey, but nothing's gonna happen to the Spaniards if nothing's happened already.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least when and if David Stern takes action against Howard.  Look at what happened to Craig Hodges and Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf for speaking out:  they got blackballed.  It'll be very interesting to see how the players respond to the injustice that Howard will most likely have to deal with.  Hopefully, they won't look the other way and keep cashing their checks, but for once stand up for something bigger than themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to tell you, Harvey, but nothing&#8217;s gonna happen to the Spaniards if nothing&#8217;s happened already.  It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me in the least when and if David Stern takes action against Howard.  Look at what happened to Craig Hodges and Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf for speaking out:  they got blackballed.  It&#8217;ll be very interesting to see how the players respond to the injustice that Howard will most likely have to deal with.  Hopefully, they won&#8217;t look the other way and keep cashing their checks, but for once stand up for something bigger than themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17294</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey:

Fuck that.  In all honesty, if Stern even dares flex on Howard for this, the players need to walk out -- right before the tip of the season...Uniforms on and everything...ref throws the ball up, and the players bounce, the ball bounces, checks bounce and Stern gets to eat a dick up.

If an employer with protected federal status (as most sports leagues are) wants to impose a rule without collective bargaining that flatly rejects all notions of self respect for Black folk, that employer needs his ass kicked.

Moreover, Josh's statement (no matter how flippantly made) is not in ANY way akin to what the Spaniards did.  I won't go into detail, but I'd hope that our defense of him is not mitigated by our disdain of others.  Fuck Stern, fuck the Spanish team, fuck Blackistone and Scoop.  

We have the RIGHT to tell the world to kiss our ass -- especially when they are asking us to lick Slave Master Balls.  This right is natural, but not permanent.  You can lose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey:</p>
<p>Fuck that.  In all honesty, if Stern even dares flex on Howard for this, the players need to walk out &#8212; right before the tip of the season&#8230;Uniforms on and everything&#8230;ref throws the ball up, and the players bounce, the ball bounces, checks bounce and Stern gets to eat a dick up.</p>
<p>If an employer with protected federal status (as most sports leagues are) wants to impose a rule without collective bargaining that flatly rejects all notions of self respect for Black folk, that employer needs his ass kicked.</p>
<p>Moreover, Josh&#8217;s statement (no matter how flippantly made) is not in ANY way akin to what the Spaniards did.  I won&#8217;t go into detail, but I&#8217;d hope that our defense of him is not mitigated by our disdain of others.  Fuck Stern, fuck the Spanish team, fuck Blackistone and Scoop.  </p>
<p>We have the RIGHT to tell the world to kiss our ass &#8212; especially when they are asking us to lick Slave Master Balls.  This right is natural, but not permanent.  You can lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17291</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey, I heard that some whites  on these blogs said they wouldn't vote for Obama because of what Howard said that then I wouldn't want their vote. And David great article and why should Howard be punished he did nothing determental to the game and it was a non- league event, frankly Black Folks should stop walking on eggshells because Obama is running for President and have to be careful of everything we say in this " Reverse P.C." enviroment we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey, I heard that some whites  on these blogs said they wouldn&#8217;t vote for Obama because of what Howard said that then I wouldn&#8217;t want their vote. And David great article and why should Howard be punished he did nothing determental to the game and it was a non- league event, frankly Black Folks should stop walking on eggshells because Obama is running for President and have to be careful of everything we say in this &#8221; Reverse P.C.&#8221; enviroment we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17290</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprised sadly that Scoop and Blackistone came out like they did against Howard especially with saying that what he said will affect Obama's campaign.  If a potential voter is going to vote for McCain because he heard a Black man say something others perceive as un-patriotic then they don't deserve to have a freakin' vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised sadly that Scoop and Blackistone came out like they did against Howard especially with saying that what he said will affect Obama&#8217;s campaign.  If a potential voter is going to vote for McCain because he heard a Black man say something others perceive as un-patriotic then they don&#8217;t deserve to have a freakin&#8217; vote.</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17289</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per usual, good and honest opinion from DZ.

If Josh is censured by the NBA then I want the same thing for the Spanish players who poked fun at the Chinese during the Beijing Olympics with that mocking slant-eyed poster.

Punish one, punish all.  Step up, Herr Stern</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per usual, good and honest opinion from DZ.</p>
<p>If Josh is censured by the NBA then I want the same thing for the Spanish players who poked fun at the Chinese during the Beijing Olympics with that mocking slant-eyed poster.</p>
<p>Punish one, punish all.  Step up, Herr Stern</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17285</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Bill Maher hasn't invited Dave to be on his show is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Bill Maher hasn&#8217;t invited Dave to be on his show is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene Forbes</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17281</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hellooooo!  since when did Josh become Barack Obama's spokes person?  Good f@#king grief!  enough already with the flags and anthems.  They always get the black sell-outs to do the bidding.  Sorry asses.   "As Aricain Americans,we need to be conscious of what we say in this day and age?!!!  I'm checking  box #1 for First ammendment rights, and adding box #4 for Second ammendment rights.  The right to bear arms and pull the trigger on these clowns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hellooooo!  since when did Josh become Barack Obama&#8217;s spokes person?  Good f@#king grief!  enough already with the flags and anthems.  They always get the black sell-outs to do the bidding.  Sorry asses.   &#8220;As Aricain Americans,we need to be conscious of what we say in this day and age?!!!  I&#8217;m checking  box #1 for First ammendment rights, and adding box #4 for Second ammendment rights.  The right to bear arms and pull the trigger on these clowns</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've spoke to Josh on a few occasions and it's my opinion he was mimicking Charlie Murphy. He just doesn't talk like that normally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spoke to Josh on a few occasions and it&#8217;s my opinion he was mimicking Charlie Murphy. He just doesn&#8217;t talk like that normally.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17279</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love Dave Zirin. Great work as usual!</description>
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		<title>By: thebrotherreport</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17278</link>
		<dc:creator>thebrotherreport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn!</description>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17277</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DZ:

Thanks.  Always thought Adande was a crackhead.  You just found his pipe!</description>
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<p>Thanks.  Always thought Adande was a crackhead.  You just found his pipe!</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17276</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an absolute great phukkking idea --- barbecueing republicans (and democrats) over a pit of amerikkkan flags!  I absolutely LOVE that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an absolute great phukkking idea &#8212; barbecueing republicans (and democrats) over a pit of amerikkkan flags!  I absolutely LOVE that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17273</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have a problem with what he said, I do have a problem with how he said it - thuggish and ignorant.  When you come off as ignorant, you lose credibility, then your message gets lost.  W.E.B. DuBois spoke about the duality of being black in America.  Toni Smith turned her back on the flag.  Ali, John Carlos and Tommie Smith had their own ways of protesting.  Michelle Obama said that for the first time, she's actually proud to be an American.  There are reasons why a lot of  black people feel ambivalent towards the U.S., Barack Obama's campaign notwithstanding.  Look at the Tuskegee Airmen:  they fought for our country overseas and got treated like second-class citizens in our own country.  But it just goes to show that we're very reactionary in this country when it comes to race.  We won't engage in a discussion until something that seems negative pops up, then we want to voice our opinion.  Silence doesn't mean progress.  Leave Josh alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with what he said, I do have a problem with how he said it - thuggish and ignorant.  When you come off as ignorant, you lose credibility, then your message gets lost.  W.E.B. DuBois spoke about the duality of being black in America.  Toni Smith turned her back on the flag.  Ali, John Carlos and Tommie Smith had their own ways of protesting.  Michelle Obama said that for the first time, she&#8217;s actually proud to be an American.  There are reasons why a lot of  black people feel ambivalent towards the U.S., Barack Obama&#8217;s campaign notwithstanding.  Look at the Tuskegee Airmen:  they fought for our country overseas and got treated like second-class citizens in our own country.  But it just goes to show that we&#8217;re very reactionary in this country when it comes to race.  We won&#8217;t engage in a discussion until something that seems negative pops up, then we want to voice our opinion.  Silence doesn&#8217;t mean progress.  Leave Josh alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17271</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece Dave.  Why would anyone...media, fans, owners, kids...have a problem with Josh Howard?  Who doesn't dislike what the National Anthem represents?  You know?  What black athlete doesn't smoke weed?  Come on Adande, you think we are going to throw our boy J Howard under the bus b/c he likes to smoke weed.  Forget it!  
I don't know about you, but if anyone tries to get ANY of my kids to sing the Anthem or tries to get them to stop smoking weed....there's gonna be hell to pay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece Dave.  Why would anyone&#8230;media, fans, owners, kids&#8230;have a problem with Josh Howard?  Who doesn&#8217;t dislike what the National Anthem represents?  You know?  What black athlete doesn&#8217;t smoke weed?  Come on Adande, you think we are going to throw our boy J Howard under the bus b/c he likes to smoke weed.  Forget it!<br />
I don&#8217;t know about you, but if anyone tries to get ANY of my kids to sing the Anthem or tries to get them to stop smoking weed&#8230;.there&#8217;s gonna be hell to pay!</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17270</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah.....excellent piece of writing Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah&#8230;..excellent piece of writing Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17269</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Star Spangled Banner was written by Francis Scott Key, who was a slave owner (racist).

So count me out as well.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Star Spangled Banner was written by Francis Scott Key, who was a slave owner (racist).</p>
<p>So count me out as well&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Co Co</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/09/22/leave-josh-alone/#comment-17268</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work Dave.  You an count me out too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work Dave.  You an count me out too.</p>
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