It’s a shame I have to commend you guys for behavior that should be par for the course but when you hear and see so much negativity and strife in life and in the media then civil attitudes unfortunately have to be applauded.

I got Farve as MVP….shoot he will probably be MVP of the superbowl too.

….”It’s simply not the end of the world. He needs to handle his business and move on…”

Maybe this will help. I don’t think Fisher did thought he called the police ON VY, he called them FOR VY. And, then we’re back to where you highlighted all those unintended consequences. I feel you. Thanks for clarifying your positions.

– Temporary loss of livelihood; retained income.

vs.

– Permanent loss of life or long-term incarceration.

I’m more than willing to heap a pile of blame on Jeff Fisher, I just can’t see a reason why. Perhaps you’re minimizing the fact that VY was alleged to be in a car without a cell phone and that time was a factor. Maybe Fisher could have covered his ass by calling “Security,” but they couldn’t effectively deploy vehicles to safeguard other citizens.

A part of me is looking at this from the perspective of a father of 18-month old twins. If I’m on the road, I don’t give two shits about VY or Fisher or him being benched. I care even less about his being distraught and contemplating suicide on the highway. Nonetheless, if he is on the road the same time as I am, I DO NOT want to the Tennessee Titans security team on I-75 trying to finesse VY back to the huddle. Maybe Jeff Fisher understood that very simple thing as well. Either way, based on the very, very, very little that I know – he made a sound, safe decision that served the best interests of the most people.

Temple, I am not saying Coach Fisher should have ignored Vince’s mother. He could have acted more prudently in concert with the Titans’ security team. Fisher isn’t judge and jury on a situation like this. There is a protocol and there is a reason why organizations employ the security folks– for situations like this. Fisher had other options available and he didn’t use them. Fisher over-reacted–period. That’s all I am saying. Calling the cops is the ‘nuclear option’.

…”Vince made out like a bandit…” Actually, the media (ESPN, the Tennesean and VY haters) made out like a bandit with all the negative publicity and Vince was OUT as QB for the Titans. If Vince felt bad then, he really felt bad during the fallout .

This is a case of unintended consequences. Fisher may have meant well and it turned out that everything was overblown by all parties and it will leave an indelible mark on the career of Vince Young. When we talk about ‘buzz words’, CONTEXT has to be included and Fisher hadn’t talk to Vince personally so he was going strictly on the assumption of other people deemed as close.

Temple, we may agree to disagree on Fisher’s culpability and unintended consequences of his actions that were in the name of ‘helping Vince’. However, I agree with your statement.

….”It’s simply not the end of the world. He needs to handle his business and move on…”

and he acted ‘on his own’ based upon subjective info from a relative (Mom) and other people’s insinuations.

What are you saying? That Fisher should have ignored or filtered or delayed processing criticial concerns expressed by Vince’s own mother?

“Apparently, much of the police report is wrong, thanks to Mike Mu, Young’s local marketing manager. Mu called the team therapist, Sheila Peters (Young doesn’t have a personal therapist), saying that Young had left his home without his cell phone, “threatening to quit and was speeding down the interstate with a gun in his car after talking about suicide.” Reports had previously stated that Peters had spoken to Young, which wasn’t the case….”

What matters in this paragraph other than “interstate” “gun” “car” and “suicide”? If Michael Mu is not a first-hand source, I need more information to make sense of why a media report after the fact has any bearing on Fisher’s actions. I am assuming that he heard what Mu said either directly or indirectly.

Patrick — all in all I’d say Vince made out like a bandit. You have to remember – those four words in quotes up top were not first uttered by the Titans or the media or the league or even Kerry Collins. They were uttered by one of his people — so that means he has to held accountable for how those four words came to be uttered — right or wrong. The media may have bungled the details, but those buzz words – interstate, gun, car and suicide – sprang from some source and young Mr. Young bears some responsibility for that.

The worst case scenario for Vince’s mother and Coach Fisher was that Michael Mu was entirely correct…that Vince did do everything alleged and actually lost his life — or worse for Vince than dying would have been to survive an accident that claimed the lives of others.

So, this little bit of tarnish is nothing compared to the worst case scenario that the leader of the Titans franchise contemplated for the Young family. I have to say you’ve not made a compelling case for why Fisher bears responsibility here. I’m still more than willing to listen and welcome additional information you may have. I will say, though, that Vince Young better be tougher than this. It’s simply not the end of the world. He needs to handle his business and move on.

If you want to assign critical blame, you could begin with an overzealous police force or the local/national media or Vince’s buddy. Either way, when a young man who holds the economic future of many thousands of people between his ears disappears and is unreachable and an associate uses the words interstate, gun, car and suicide, a PRUDENT coach who respects the mother of that person would act just as they did.

Like I said, if you’ve got more holla back. I’m all ears.

I think Coach Fisher cares for Vince as a person, but he showed very hasty judgment in the way he handled that situation. He didn’t have all the facts and he acted ‘on his own’ based upon subjective info from a relative (Mom) and other people’s insinuations. Additionally, we didn’t know the timeframe of all the events that other people were alleging about Vince and neither did Fisher. Vince hadn’t been missing for 24 hours or apparently six hours. Vince is a grown man, not 12 years old and Coach Fisher should have exhausted the resources he had within the Titans’ organization. And MAYBE THAT’S WHY MOM CALLED FISHER FIRST. However, Mom should have given more detailed, pertinent info about his state of mind. When people call 911, things get emotional, but the operator has to have relevant information, an accurate picture of the situation before deciding the best course of action.

….. “Apparently, much of the police report is wrong, thanks to Mike Mu, Young’s local marketing manager. Mu called the team therapist, Sheila Peters (Young doesn’t have a personal therapist), saying that Young had left his home without his cell phone, “threatening to quit and was speeding down the interstate with a gun in his car after talking about suicide.” Reports had previously stated that Peters had spoken to Young, which wasn’t the case….”

There was a lot of mis-information out there and Fisher over-reacted (in my opinion).

Fisher needed to talk the security folks/legal/counselors with the Titans organization and let the security folks make the final decision in regards to addressing Vince–not Fisher himself. Let the security folks ask the questions to the people who were ‘concerned’ about Vince. If Vince was in Nashville, just obtain all his favorite spots from Mom or the close relative/friend and proceed from there.

When you call 911 or the police, it immediately becomes a PUBLIC matter….

Temple you had mentioned worst case scenario …well the way the story unfolded this was the worse case scenario and Vince Young’s reputation will be somewhat tarnished and his NFL playing career is in a holding pattern. Additionally, the mainstream media who already were skeptical of his overall intelligence and skills as a NFL QB prior to him even being drafted just provided more fuel to the proverbial fire.

…… “Not having all the facts available to us and approaching the matter prudently, we contacted Metro Police to make them aware of the situation and asked for their assistance in locating Vince,” the Titans said in a statement Tuesday. “He was located at a friend’s house, where we made contact with him.

“He then came to the practice facility, where it was determined that those initial concerns by his friends and family were unfounded and he returned home without incident,” the Titans said.

Young left the facility by himself in his own vehicle after speaking with Fisher and officers, police said….”

LOL!!!!

Lets see him be the leader of a team and dominate like rose his rookie year in the NBA.

Please…………

Them brothas are the truth!!!!!!!!

Quick question — what should Fisher have done? What do you know that he didn’t know? What’s the worst case scenario under your plan? I’m not being an ass here, I’m being serious. I’ve heard Fisher get blasted by folks, but I don’t really see it. Show me. Thanks.