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	<title>Comments on: Ron Glover&#8217;s NFL Recap: Week 12</title>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20110</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Harvey.  I like Patrick.  He always come with a very thoughtful approach AND he swings for the fences.  No bunts, no bailouts.  That's all good, all the time.  If he came another way, I'd have gone Flame City...and I hope he'd do the same to me if I came weak or rude.  It's funny, but you can tell from folks writing whether or not you could have a beer and watch the game with them OR if you'd have to hit them upside the head with the remote (or the whole damn TV).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Harvey.  I like Patrick.  He always come with a very thoughtful approach AND he swings for the fences.  No bunts, no bailouts.  That&#8217;s all good, all the time.  If he came another way, I&#8217;d have gone Flame City&#8230;and I hope he&#8217;d do the same to me if I came weak or rude.  It&#8217;s funny, but you can tell from folks writing whether or not you could have a beer and watch the game with them OR if you&#8217;d have to hit them upside the head with the remote (or the whole damn TV).</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20097</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T3 &#38; Patrick
Thanks for the point/counterpoint you guys have been having the past few points.  This is what people who troll on this site and others like this one don't understand and that is differing viewpoints don't have to degenerate into an online flame war.  You gentlemen supported your opinions with reasoned arguments while acknowledging the opposing view like adults and it was a pleasure for me to read them no matter what side of the discussion I was on.

It's a shame I have to commend you guys for behavior that should be par for the course but when you hear and see so much negativity and strife in life and in the media then civil attitudes unfortunately have to be applauded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T3 &amp; Patrick<br />
Thanks for the point/counterpoint you guys have been having the past few points.  This is what people who troll on this site and others like this one don&#8217;t understand and that is differing viewpoints don&#8217;t have to degenerate into an online flame war.  You gentlemen supported your opinions with reasoned arguments while acknowledging the opposing view like adults and it was a pleasure for me to read them no matter what side of the discussion I was on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame I have to commend you guys for behavior that should be par for the course but when you hear and see so much negativity and strife in life and in the media then civil attitudes unfortunately have to be applauded.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20096</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favre is the MVP favorite, but Drew Brees is on pace to break Marino's record. However, the Saints must make the playoffs. And Kurt Warner has to garner consideration as well. The Cardinals got the NFC West on lockdown so Warner's chances have been enhanced, but if the Cards were able to beat the Giants this past weekend, he may have been the frontrunner over Favre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favre is the MVP favorite, but Drew Brees is on pace to break Marino&#8217;s record. However, the Saints must make the playoffs. And Kurt Warner has to garner consideration as well. The Cardinals got the NFC West on lockdown so Warner&#8217;s chances have been enhanced, but if the Cards were able to beat the Giants this past weekend, he may have been the frontrunner over Favre.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20090</link>
		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Patrick and Temple who you guys got for MVP of the NFL.

I got Farve as MVP....shoot he will probably be MVP of the superbowl too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Patrick and Temple who you guys got for MVP of the NFL.</p>
<p>I got Farve as MVP&#8230;.shoot he will probably be MVP of the superbowl too.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20085</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple:
I feel where you are coming from in regards to Fisher and VY.

….”It’s simply not the end of the world. He needs to handle his business and move on…”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple:<br />
I feel where you are coming from in regards to Fisher and VY.</p>
<p>….”It’s simply not the end of the world. He needs to handle his business and move on…”</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20083</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

Maybe this will help.  I don't think Fisher did thought he called the police ON VY, he called them FOR VY.  And, then we're back to where you highlighted all those unintended consequences.  I feel you.  Thanks for clarifying your positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>Maybe this will help.  I don&#8217;t think Fisher did thought he called the police ON VY, he called them FOR VY.  And, then we&#8217;re back to where you highlighted all those unintended consequences.  I feel you.  Thanks for clarifying your positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/24/ron-glovers-nfl-recap-week-12/#comment-20080</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess for me the issue is as simple as the fact that police departments routinely keep shit quiet for years when they want to.  In this instance, it didn't happen.  I don't know that the police haven't put the hush on things for the Titans before.  The reaction doesn't seem nuclear to me...it seems like a fairly rational decision -- given our competing worst case scenarios:

-- Temporary loss of livelihood; retained income.

vs.

-- Permanent loss of life or long-term incarceration.

I'm more than willing to heap a pile of blame on Jeff Fisher, I just can't see a reason why.  Perhaps you're minimizing the fact that VY was alleged to be in a car without a cell phone and that time was a factor.  Maybe Fisher could have covered his ass by calling "Security," but they couldn't effectively deploy vehicles to safeguard other citizens.  

A part of me is looking at this from the perspective of a father of 18-month old twins.  If I'm on the road, I don't give two shits about VY or Fisher or him being benched.  I care even less about his being distraught and contemplating suicide on the highway.  Nonetheless, if he is on the road the same time as I am, I DO NOT want to the Tennessee Titans security team on I-75 trying to finesse VY back to the huddle.  Maybe Jeff Fisher understood that very simple thing as well.  Either way, based on the very, very, very little that I know - he made a sound, safe decision that served the best interests of the most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess for me the issue is as simple as the fact that police departments routinely keep shit quiet for years when they want to.  In this instance, it didn&#8217;t happen.  I don&#8217;t know that the police haven&#8217;t put the hush on things for the Titans before.  The reaction doesn&#8217;t seem nuclear to me&#8230;it seems like a fairly rational decision &#8212; given our competing worst case scenarios:</p>
<p>&#8211; Temporary loss of livelihood; retained income.</p>
<p>vs.</p>
<p>&#8211; Permanent loss of life or long-term incarceration.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more than willing to heap a pile of blame on Jeff Fisher, I just can&#8217;t see a reason why.  Perhaps you&#8217;re minimizing the fact that VY was alleged to be in a car without a cell phone and that time was a factor.  Maybe Fisher could have covered his ass by calling &#8220;Security,&#8221; but they couldn&#8217;t effectively deploy vehicles to safeguard other citizens.  </p>
<p>A part of me is looking at this from the perspective of a father of 18-month old twins.  If I&#8217;m on the road, I don&#8217;t give two shits about VY or Fisher or him being benched.  I care even less about his being distraught and contemplating suicide on the highway.  Nonetheless, if he is on the road the same time as I am, I DO NOT want to the Tennessee Titans security team on I-75 trying to finesse VY back to the huddle.  Maybe Jeff Fisher understood that very simple thing as well.  Either way, based on the very, very, very little that I know - he made a sound, safe decision that served the best interests of the most people.</p>
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