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	<title>Comments on: In Search of Post-Racial America By Tim Wise</title>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20115</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T3, if you notice (and I KNOW you have) the &quot;advice&quot;, the &quot;criticisms&quot;  - what have you - of Michelle Obama...its all very scattered...the feministas are whining about what Michelle must &quot;give up&quot; (gag), you have all of these other &quot;first ladies&quot; giving unsolicited advice and &quot;warnings&quot; (puke).....I&#039;ve finally figured out why I am so completely irritated with it all. They really don&#039;t think black women can be &quot;LADIES&quot;....that&#039;s it. I mean in the most feminine, graceful, elegant, soft - even dainty - sense of the word. A LADY....and First Lady at that. 

Stereotypes notwithstanding (the ghetto fabulous, finger snapping, neck rolling, loud sistah)....even those images of black women in powerful positions, successful and smart...we&#039;re &quot;tough&quot;...&quot;strong&quot;....damn near asexual.....but we&#039;re not &quot;ladies&quot;...I hate to generalize, but its freaking these white women OUT.  Michelle is a lady...and now she&#039;s the First Lady - so they&#039;re stuck on stupid in overanalyzing her every facial expression....and now to top it all off, Desiree Rogers is named the White House Social Secretary....the gatekeeper of the social calendar and head event planner. The &quot;Miss Manners&quot; of the White House. I want little black girls to see &quot;Ladies&quot;...I want them to SEE black women who are not afraid of classic femininity - hell, we were the ones who created it in the first damn place and the image got stolen....I want it back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T3, if you notice (and I KNOW you have) the &#8220;advice&#8221;, the &#8220;criticisms&#8221;  &#8211; what have you &#8211; of Michelle Obama&#8230;its all very scattered&#8230;the feministas are whining about what Michelle must &#8220;give up&#8221; (gag), you have all of these other &#8220;first ladies&#8221; giving unsolicited advice and &#8220;warnings&#8221; (puke)&#8230;..I&#8217;ve finally figured out why I am so completely irritated with it all. They really don&#8217;t think black women can be &#8220;LADIES&#8221;&#8230;.that&#8217;s it. I mean in the most feminine, graceful, elegant, soft &#8211; even dainty &#8211; sense of the word. A LADY&#8230;.and First Lady at that. </p>
<p>Stereotypes notwithstanding (the ghetto fabulous, finger snapping, neck rolling, loud sistah)&#8230;.even those images of black women in powerful positions, successful and smart&#8230;we&#8217;re &#8220;tough&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;strong&#8221;&#8230;.damn near asexual&#8230;..but we&#8217;re not &#8220;ladies&#8221;&#8230;I hate to generalize, but its freaking these white women OUT.  Michelle is a lady&#8230;and now she&#8217;s the First Lady &#8211; so they&#8217;re stuck on stupid in overanalyzing her every facial expression&#8230;.and now to top it all off, Desiree Rogers is named the White House Social Secretary&#8230;.the gatekeeper of the social calendar and head event planner. The &#8220;Miss Manners&#8221; of the White House. I want little black girls to see &#8220;Ladies&#8221;&#8230;I want them to SEE black women who are not afraid of classic femininity &#8211; hell, we were the ones who created it in the first damn place and the image got stolen&#8230;.I want it back.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20113</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holder and Rice used to work for Clinton (Bubba that is).  Rice&#039;s daddy was a Fed. Reserve leader (governor (presidential appointee - most likely) or branch pres. - can&#039;t recall).  Clinton (Hillary) still works for Bubba (believe it or not).  Geithner and Summers fit perfectly from a finance standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holder and Rice used to work for Clinton (Bubba that is).  Rice&#8217;s daddy was a Fed. Reserve leader (governor (presidential appointee &#8211; most likely) or branch pres. &#8211; can&#8217;t recall).  Clinton (Hillary) still works for Bubba (believe it or not).  Geithner and Summers fit perfectly from a finance standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20112</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m really confused about those picks--Rogers withstanding. The Clinton pick depresses me so...especially with all the Bobby Kennedy references throughout her campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m really confused about those picks&#8211;Rogers withstanding. The Clinton pick depresses me so&#8230;especially with all the Bobby Kennedy references throughout her campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20109</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desiree Rogers is a very attractive woman.  I think it will be interesting for people inclined to assume things based on her looks.  She&#039;s a super-intelligent person with a very diverse business and non-profit/charity background.  Now that I see the type of quality personnel assigned to run the social calendar, it&#039;s going to be very interesting.  

Of course, that changes nothing for me with respect to the hiring of devils like Tim Geithner and Hillary Clinton and Larry Summers.  I&#039;ve got a nice long flight of stairs for each of them. 

But, Miranda, I am with you on the DR pick.  Nicely done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiree Rogers is a very attractive woman.  I think it will be interesting for people inclined to assume things based on her looks.  She&#8217;s a super-intelligent person with a very diverse business and non-profit/charity background.  Now that I see the type of quality personnel assigned to run the social calendar, it&#8217;s going to be very interesting.  </p>
<p>Of course, that changes nothing for me with respect to the hiring of devils like Tim Geithner and Hillary Clinton and Larry Summers.  I&#8217;ve got a nice long flight of stairs for each of them. </p>
<p>But, Miranda, I am with you on the DR pick.  Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20107</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KevDog:

The answer to why Hillary Clinton has even a passing interest in the post of Secretary of State is to be found here:

http://temple3.wordpress.com/the-clinton-plan-for-africa/

It&#039;s a lengthy piece, but you can search the site and read it in six different segments.  We&#039;ve been told that Bill Clinton was vetted before her appointment is finalized.  I wonder if they found what I found.  

Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KevDog:</p>
<p>The answer to why Hillary Clinton has even a passing interest in the post of Secretary of State is to be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://temple3.wordpress.com/the-clinton-plan-for-africa/" rel="nofollow">http://temple3.wordpress.com/the-clinton-plan-for-africa/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lengthy piece, but you can search the site and read it in six different segments.  We&#8217;ve been told that Bill Clinton was vetted before her appointment is finalized.  I wonder if they found what I found.  </p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20106</link>
		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA good one Tim Wise...........thats my dude there.

Brotha Eric you didn&#039;t get your check...........I got mine.

Sh&amp;^ I am spending it all so I can do my part to bring back the economy. Gonna buy a whole bunch of stuff I don&#039;t need.

Post-racial america LOL!!!!

I guess the white managers at my job who only have highschool diplomas who manage all these minority engineers with Masters and PHDs will have to give up their job to them.

LOL!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHA good one Tim Wise&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..thats my dude there.</p>
<p>Brotha Eric you didn&#8217;t get your check&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I got mine.</p>
<p>Sh&amp;^ I am spending it all so I can do my part to bring back the economy. Gonna buy a whole bunch of stuff I don&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>Post-racial america LOL!!!!</p>
<p>I guess the white managers at my job who only have highschool diplomas who manage all these minority engineers with Masters and PHDs will have to give up their job to them.</p>
<p>LOL!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Daniels</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20103</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well racism doesn&#039;t exist anymore and anyone can make it and be President because Obama did it, so no more excuses Negroes. Will I be able to cash my 1 million dollar reparations and weekly check that Conservatives said I would get if Obama got elected because I want to be on MTV Cribs and have  ...

1. My 5 expensive cars with the Bentley Spider in front
2. Video Game room where all my boys are looking thug
3. Stripper Pole with Porn Stars dancing (tax free)
4. Big Pool with waterfall and Jacuzzi with a leftover condom
5. Bathroom with a Big screen t.v. while I take a dump
6. Red Bull , Dr. Pepper and Flavored Water Machines 
7. Big Closet with shoes&amp;hats I don&#039;t need
8. Bedroom where nothing happens
9. A recording studio where nothing happens
10. An elevator because I am too lazy to walk the stairs.

Then I know I will be living in a post- racial America because I will be one Broke-ass brotha on 1 million dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well racism doesn&#8217;t exist anymore and anyone can make it and be President because Obama did it, so no more excuses Negroes. Will I be able to cash my 1 million dollar reparations and weekly check that Conservatives said I would get if Obama got elected because I want to be on MTV Cribs and have  &#8230;</p>
<p>1. My 5 expensive cars with the Bentley Spider in front<br />
2. Video Game room where all my boys are looking thug<br />
3. Stripper Pole with Porn Stars dancing (tax free)<br />
4. Big Pool with waterfall and Jacuzzi with a leftover condom<br />
5. Bathroom with a Big screen t.v. while I take a dump<br />
6. Red Bull , Dr. Pepper and Flavored Water Machines<br />
7. Big Closet with shoes&amp;hats I don&#8217;t need<br />
8. Bedroom where nothing happens<br />
9. A recording studio where nothing happens<br />
10. An elevator because I am too lazy to walk the stairs.</p>
<p>Then I know I will be living in a post- racial America because I will be one Broke-ass brotha on 1 million dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: HarveyDent</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20100</link>
		<dc:creator>HarveyDent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graveyard laughter for gallows humor.

Good one, Mr. Wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graveyard laughter for gallows humor.</p>
<p>Good one, Mr. Wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Miranda, the Desiree Rogers pick was big. What a role model she will be.

As far as Hillary...

It was her ball, so she took it and went home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Miranda, the Desiree Rogers pick was big. What a role model she will be.</p>
<p>As far as Hillary&#8230;</p>
<p>It was her ball, so she took it and went home.</p>
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		<title>By: KevDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no Washington insider so most of the names to me don&#039;t mean much. But  the choice of Hilliary as SOS doesn&#039;t make much sense to me except as some sort of brokered-pre-election deal. But why she&#039;d want that post is a mystery to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no Washington insider so most of the names to me don&#8217;t mean much. But  the choice of Hilliary as SOS doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me except as some sort of brokered-pre-election deal. But why she&#8217;d want that post is a mystery to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2008/11/25/in-search-of-post-racial-america-by-tim-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-20091</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all of the appointments (if confirmed) and positions filled...Valerie Jarret as a chief advisor, Eric Holder as AG; Susan Rice, UN Ambassador; Melody Barnes, Domestic Policy Advisor....I must say, Desiree Rogers as White House Social Secretary is the one that makes me smile. A sistah as the White House Social Secretary...the hoity toity Social Secretary.....now that&#039;s change a girl like me can really believe in....I love that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all of the appointments (if confirmed) and positions filled&#8230;Valerie Jarret as a chief advisor, Eric Holder as AG; Susan Rice, UN Ambassador; Melody Barnes, Domestic Policy Advisor&#8230;.I must say, Desiree Rogers as White House Social Secretary is the one that makes me smile. A sistah as the White House Social Secretary&#8230;the hoity toity Social Secretary&#8230;..now that&#8217;s change a girl like me can really believe in&#8230;.I love that!</p>
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		<title>By: KevDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“So, you’re originally from Somalia, huh?” I asked.

“Yes I am,” he replied. “I just came to America five months ago.”

“Wow, great timing!” I shot back.

“What do you mean?” he asked, appearing stumped.

“Well,” I replied, “I mean, you only had to live in racial America for like, half a year–not even–and now, bam, it’s like, we’re all post-racial and stuff. Pretty cool.”



LOL. Good stuff. We live in a multi-faceted society and of of it&#039;s most annoying traits is the tendency to attemt to transform soundbite into reality. 

Post-racial? Ridiculoous

But the same as it was before? Equally ridiculously.

Obama HAS changed everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“So, you’re originally from Somalia, huh?” I asked.</p>
<p>“Yes I am,” he replied. “I just came to America five months ago.”</p>
<p>“Wow, great timing!” I shot back.</p>
<p>“What do you mean?” he asked, appearing stumped.</p>
<p>“Well,” I replied, “I mean, you only had to live in racial America for like, half a year–not even–and now, bam, it’s like, we’re all post-racial and stuff. Pretty cool.”</p>
<p>LOL. Good stuff. We live in a multi-faceted society and of of it&#8217;s most annoying traits is the tendency to attemt to transform soundbite into reality. </p>
<p>Post-racial? Ridiculoous</p>
<p>But the same as it was before? Equally ridiculously.</p>
<p>Obama HAS changed everything.</p>
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