Comments on: The Class of Donovan McNabb Prevails http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/ Bangin’ and Scorin’ Every Trip Down the Floor Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:49:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: In NBA Finals Game 4, Dallas Steals One At Home 86-83 And Tie The Series 2-2 | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-47004 In NBA Finals Game 4, Dallas Steals One At Home 86-83 And Tie The Series 2-2 | The Starting Five Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:52:08 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-47004 [...] I don’t want this to sound as if I’m bashing LeBron, but honestly, my first thought was Donovan McNabb. [...] [...] I don’t want this to sound as if I’m bashing LeBron, but honestly, my first thought was Donovan McNabb. [...]

]]> By: The Silent Glove: A Father's Wish For His Son to Reconnect With Baseball | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-32930 The Silent Glove: A Father's Wish For His Son to Reconnect With Baseball | The Starting Five Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:21:06 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-32930 [...] a leader and gain the respect of his team by coming through in the clutch. He has the temperament of Donovan McNabb, but Daunte Culpepper is his guy. He follows #11 all around the league and is really looking [...] [...] a leader and gain the respect of his team by coming through in the clutch. He has the temperament of Donovan McNabb, but Daunte Culpepper is his guy. He follows #11 all around the league and is really looking [...]

]]> By: Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-30712 Friday Fire: What is the Responsibility of the Media? | The Starting Five Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:16:19 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-30712 [...] Why does Philly love Allen Iverson but essentially hates Donovan McNabb? [...] [...] Why does Philly love Allen Iverson but essentially hates Donovan McNabb? [...]

]]> By: It's Time for Donovan McNabb's Legacy to be Law | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-22847 It's Time for Donovan McNabb's Legacy to be Law | The Starting Five Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:33:17 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-22847 [...] That chip is Donovan’s class. [...] [...] That chip is Donovan’s class. [...]

]]> By: D Original: Interview With Dream Hampton | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-22763 D Original: Interview With Dream Hampton | The Starting Five Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:16:41 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-22763 [...] about these issues all the time here. In the sports world, my current focus is making sure Donovan McNabb gets his propers from the media. He has not received the respect he deserves and I will do what I [...] [...] about these issues all the time here. In the sports world, my current focus is making sure Donovan McNabb gets his propers from the media. He has not received the respect he deserves and I will do what I [...]

]]> By: When Are The Eagles Gonna Win One For Don? | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-22460 When Are The Eagles Gonna Win One For Don? | The Starting Five Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:08:49 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-22460 [...] now a god in the NFL and once again Donovan McNabb will not get the respect he deserves despite his class under intense media [...] [...] now a god in the NFL and once again Donovan McNabb will not get the respect he deserves despite his class under intense media [...]

]]> By: The Starting Five AFC and NFC Championship Picks | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-22402 The Starting Five AFC and NFC Championship Picks | The Starting Five Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:23:59 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-22402 [...] teams and of course the Philly D will be having dinner in the Cardinals backfield all game. In that 48-20 game on Thanksgiving, Philly didn’t get to Warner once. That will change [...] [...] teams and of course the Philly D will be having dinner in the Cardinals backfield all game. In that 48-20 game on Thanksgiving, Philly didn’t get to Warner once. That will change [...]

]]> By: China man http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-21202 China man Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:40:12 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-21202 <strong>yo...</strong> disagree... yo…

disagree…

]]> By: Repeat After Me: Why Haven't the Philadelphia Eagles Front Office Given Donovan McNabb Talented Receivers? | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20956 Repeat After Me: Why Haven't the Philadelphia Eagles Front Office Given Donovan McNabb Talented Receivers? | The Starting Five Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20956 [...] two wins, the Eagles have ran the ball during 45 and 41%  of the plays respectively (Check the record). Westbrook sacrificed the rest of his season just by suiting up. He has no legs! Check the tape [...] [...] two wins, the Eagles have ran the ball during 45 and 41%  of the plays respectively (Check the record). Westbrook sacrificed the rest of his season just by suiting up. He has no legs! Check the tape [...]

]]> By: Mizzo's NFL Top Five: Carolina Pulls Into the Lead | The Starting Five http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20655 Mizzo's NFL Top Five: Carolina Pulls Into the Lead | The Starting Five Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:36:50 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20655 [...] luck, this team could be wrapping up the NFC East division. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. After McNabb’s benching, the Eagles have not so quietly won 2 huge games (and a cupcake) and look like the team [...] [...] luck, this team could be wrapping up the NFC East division. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. After McNabb’s benching, the Eagles have not so quietly won 2 huge games (and a cupcake) and look like the team [...]

]]> By: Temple3 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20252 Temple3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:43:45 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20252 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3744237 Rodney Rogers paralyzed in ATV accident. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3744237

Rodney Rogers paralyzed in ATV accident.

]]> By: Mizzo http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20251 Mizzo Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:09:40 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20251 Well said Temple. Thanks as usual. Well said Temple. Thanks as usual.

]]> By: Temple3 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20250 Temple3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:40:15 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20250 Just an aside: In 2007, the Eagles dropped 4 games in November/December up north (home vs. Dallas, Seattle and the Giants; road vs. New England). They won twice - at home vs. Buffalo (big deal) and on the road vs. Washington. I'm sure many of you Eagle fans remember that game. McNabb was 20-28 for 251 with 4 Tds and 0 Ints. The Eagles passed 28 times and ran 28 times. NOTHING has changed in Philly. The team is structurally flawed and the problem is not Donovan McNabb. Just an aside:

In 2007, the Eagles dropped 4 games in November/December up north (home vs. Dallas, Seattle and the Giants; road vs. New England). They won twice – at home vs. Buffalo (big deal) and on the road vs. Washington. I’m sure many of you Eagle fans remember that game. McNabb was 20-28 for 251 with 4 Tds and 0 Ints. The Eagles passed 28 times and ran 28 times.

NOTHING has changed in Philly. The team is structurally flawed and the problem is not Donovan McNabb.

]]> By: Temple3 http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20249 Temple3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:34:27 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20249 Mizzo - I think those are all fair points. I find Favre's career to be the most interesting because it spans the eras of significant rules changes in the NFL to increase offensive production. Favre has had some terrible years. He's had some mediocre years. He's had some great years. The thing about him has been his durability and subsequently, his ability to compile incredible statistics. I don't believe there is any question that Brady, Manning and Favre would not have been benched DURING a GAME. Manning had some of his worst career performances against the New England Patriots -- games where he clearly cost solid teams a chance to win. There were games the Patriots won by the skin of their nuts where Manning threw multiple INTs and never put the ball anywhere near the endzone. Even in the midst of awful performances against 3-4 defenses like San Diego, Pittsburgh and others, he was never benched. Last year, his stat line against San Diego was incredible. 34-56, 300+ yards, 2 TDs, 6 INTs. The Colts lost by 3. Manning wasn't benched because the coaches 1) respect him 2) understand he gives them the best chance to win 3) know that removing him signals a concession of the game. Favre and Brady have had stinkers too. Brady wasn't benched in the midst of that embarassing 4 pick game vs. Miami a few years ago. You ride the horse that gets you to the dance -- good or bad. It's called loyalty and integrity. I don't think Reid knows a whole lot about that. When a team chooses to bench the FACE of the FRANCHISE, it's a clear signal that the franchise is in total disarray. I don't believe the Cardinals game should change anything. Frankly, all the Cardinals game did was reinforce that McNabb is an elite talent and that when the team is balanced on offense, they are formidable. No news there. Nothing to report. The issue is that the Eagles remain a franchise at odds with itself. They are in the Northeast and have rivals with power backs like Jacobs, Ward, Barber, and Portis. They have a finesse back and still can't grind it out on 3rd and short or 4th and short. They still have to TRICK teams in critical game situations. They still rely on Herculean efforts from McNabb in big games and still don't have the means to support him properly. The Colts, Patriots and Packers were never constructed that way. The weather rules everywhere except in the head of Panama Andy Reid. Mizzo – I think those are all fair points. I find Favre’s career to be the most interesting because it spans the eras of significant rules changes in the NFL to increase offensive production. Favre has had some terrible years. He’s had some mediocre years. He’s had some great years. The thing about him has been his durability and subsequently, his ability to compile incredible statistics.

I don’t believe there is any question that Brady, Manning and Favre would not have been benched DURING a GAME.

Manning had some of his worst career performances against the New England Patriots — games where he clearly cost solid teams a chance to win. There were games the Patriots won by the skin of their nuts where Manning threw multiple INTs and never put the ball anywhere near the endzone. Even in the midst of awful performances against 3-4 defenses like San Diego, Pittsburgh and others, he was never benched. Last year, his stat line against San Diego was incredible.

34-56, 300+ yards, 2 TDs, 6 INTs. The Colts lost by 3. Manning wasn’t benched because the coaches 1) respect him 2) understand he gives them the best chance to win 3) know that removing him signals a concession of the game.

Favre and Brady have had stinkers too. Brady wasn’t benched in the midst of that embarassing 4 pick game vs. Miami a few years ago. You ride the horse that gets you to the dance — good or bad. It’s called loyalty and integrity. I don’t think Reid knows a whole lot about that. When a team chooses to bench the FACE of the FRANCHISE, it’s a clear signal that the franchise is in total disarray. I don’t believe the Cardinals game should change anything.

Frankly, all the Cardinals game did was reinforce that McNabb is an elite talent and that when the team is balanced on offense, they are formidable. No news there. Nothing to report. The issue is that the Eagles remain a franchise at odds with itself. They are in the Northeast and have rivals with power backs like Jacobs, Ward, Barber, and Portis. They have a finesse back and still can’t grind it out on 3rd and short or 4th and short. They still have to TRICK teams in critical game situations. They still rely on Herculean efforts from McNabb in big games and still don’t have the means to support him properly.

The Colts, Patriots and Packers were never constructed that way. The weather rules everywhere except in the head of Panama Andy Reid.

]]> By: Mizzo http://thestartingfive.net/2008/12/03/the-class-of-donovan-mcnabb-prevails/comment-page-1/#comment-20248 Mizzo Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:56:24 +0000 http://thestartingfive.net/?p=2815#comment-20248 Phil see the positives in the piece, not your negatives. Brady is the only quarterback in the bunch who conceivably could say he showed and proved on his way to the title. Even Brady could be argued because of NE's defense during their amazing run and AV kicking the rock. Favre is fortunate he had Desmond Howard and Reggie White. Manning won because of great coaching and a powerful running game. Don't give them all the credit as McNabb shouldn't harness all the blame. Thanks to the rest of you. I enjoyed writing this. The season is yet to be written. Phil see the positives in the piece, not your negatives. Brady is the only quarterback in the bunch who conceivably could say he showed and proved on his way to the title. Even Brady could be argued because of NE’s defense during their amazing run and AV kicking the rock. Favre is fortunate he had Desmond Howard and Reggie White. Manning won because of great coaching and a powerful running game. Don’t give them all the credit as McNabb shouldn’t harness all the blame.

Thanks to the rest of you. I enjoyed writing this. The season is yet to be written.

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