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	<title>Comments on: Revenge of the 6th: With the Pittsburgh Steelers, it&#8217;s All About Patience</title>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I aint feelin&#039; that color scheme either. Either black and gold or it&#039;s not sold. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get that. What&#039;s that all about?</description>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Cardinals had won, I wouldn&#039;t be buyin&#039; that shit either.</description>
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		<title>By: kos</title>
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		<dc:creator>kos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that too, T3!  But in fairness, it was the same color scheme for the Cardinals when they had Cardinals gear up there in case they won the Super Bowl.  Still, if it ain&#039;t black and gold......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that too, T3!  But in fairness, it was the same color scheme for the Cardinals when they had Cardinals gear up there in case they won the Super Bowl.  Still, if it ain&#8217;t black and gold&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the Seahawks win the Super Bowl??  What&#039;s up with that COLOR SCHEME?!?!??

http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3457933&amp;cp=3459209

I ain&#039;t buyin&#039; none o&#039; that bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the Seahawks win the Super Bowl??  What&#8217;s up with that COLOR SCHEME?!?!??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3457933&#038;cp=3459209" rel="nofollow">http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3457933&#038;cp=3459209</a></p>
<p>I ain&#8217;t buyin&#8217; none o&#8217; that bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend called me from Detroit on Super Bowl Sunday to say that he was rooting for the Steelers because of guys from Detroit like Larry Foote (and Bettis).  He&#039;s a lifelong Cowboys fan, but he came over to the Black side for a day.  He says that Foote really wants to go back to his old high school (Pershing) and set it off.  There is a great deal of football talent in Detroit.  I see nothing but big things for him as a leading citizen and builder of men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend called me from Detroit on Super Bowl Sunday to say that he was rooting for the Steelers because of guys from Detroit like Larry Foote (and Bettis).  He&#8217;s a lifelong Cowboys fan, but he came over to the Black side for a day.  He says that Foote really wants to go back to his old high school (Pershing) and set it off.  There is a great deal of football talent in Detroit.  I see nothing but big things for him as a leading citizen and builder of men.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s some good stuff right there T3. Thanks for posting that.

We often hear so much negativity regarding athletes but yet we often don&#039;t hear about all the good that a lot of them do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s some good stuff right there T3. Thanks for posting that.</p>
<p>We often hear so much negativity regarding athletes but yet we often don&#8217;t hear about all the good that a lot of them do.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Larry Foote:

I&#039;m got nothing but love for my fellow Wolverines.  Check out his wiki page:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In March 2008, Foote paid for the funeral of Mark Brown-Williams, a ten-year-old child from Detroit, Michigan, who had drowned after falling through the ice on a tributary of the Rouge River in February.[2] Foote had no pre-existing personal connection to the family, but he was touched after hearing of the tragedy, as he has a son of nearly that age himself and had played on the same frozen river when he was a child.[3]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He had a great career in Pittsburgh and he has big plans for the youth of Detroit.  As good as he was on the field, his greatest legacy in football may be yet to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Larry Foote:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m got nothing but love for my fellow Wolverines.  Check out his wiki page:</p>
<blockquote><p>In March 2008, Foote paid for the funeral of Mark Brown-Williams, a ten-year-old child from Detroit, Michigan, who had drowned after falling through the ice on a tributary of the Rouge River in February.[2] Foote had no pre-existing personal connection to the family, but he was touched after hearing of the tragedy, as he has a son of nearly that age himself and had played on the same frozen river when he was a child.[3]</p></blockquote>
<p>He had a great career in Pittsburgh and he has big plans for the youth of Detroit.  As good as he was on the field, his greatest legacy in football may be yet to come.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kos --

Damn, I agree with everything you&#039;ve said man.

I must admit that I liked Cowher but dammit, sometimes he could piss me the f*** off. :-)

I like the intensity he brought and how he could motivate his players. I can still see the image of him in Greg Lloyd&#039;s face, telling him to rush the passer....damn, that was classic!

Tomlin was a sociology major, huh? I didn&#039;t know that.


FYI....I just heard that Larry Foote will probably bounce to Detroit next season. That means that Timmons will be a starter in 09.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kos &#8211;</p>
<p>Damn, I agree with everything you&#8217;ve said man.</p>
<p>I must admit that I liked Cowher but dammit, sometimes he could piss me the f*** off. <img src='http://thestartingfive.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I like the intensity he brought and how he could motivate his players. I can still see the image of him in Greg Lloyd&#8217;s face, telling him to rush the passer&#8230;.damn, that was classic!</p>
<p>Tomlin was a sociology major, huh? I didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>FYI&#8230;.I just heard that Larry Foote will probably bounce to Detroit next season. That means that Timmons will be a starter in 09.</p>
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		<title>By: kos</title>
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		<dc:creator>kos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GN -

Exactly why I was kinda glad when Cowher retired.  On one hand, the guy was likeable.  But, it had become painfully evident that the reason that the Steelers hadn&#039;t won titles in the 90&#039;s was more a function of Cowher not doing the right things, than the team itself being deficient.  The year after the Steelers won the Super Bowl and he chose to stick with Ben even though Stevie Wonder could see that Ben wasn&#039;t right.  His on again-off again playing of Kordell Stewart.  (To be fair, this had more to do with the fact that the Steelers couldn&#039;t keep an offensive coordinator for more than 2 seasons.)  Anyone could see that Stewart&#039;s psyche is fragile.  I give him props for lasting in Pittsburgh for as long as he did, though.  Yanking him did nothing for his confidence.

The thing that I like about Tomlin, he realizes it&#039;s all about the details.  Take care of the little things, and the big goal will be easier to achieve.  Also, he&#039;s the calm that the players need to see sometimes.  Cowher, to say the least, was anything but calm.  Tomlin will chew those guys out (see Sweed in the AFC Championship game after missing that long pass and laying on the field like he was hurt, costing the team a time out), but he will also praise them (see Sweed delivering a Ward-like block a couple of plays later).  Of course, it doesn&#039;t hurt that Tomlin was a sociology major, as far as him dealing with players.</description>
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<p>Exactly why I was kinda glad when Cowher retired.  On one hand, the guy was likeable.  But, it had become painfully evident that the reason that the Steelers hadn&#8217;t won titles in the 90&#8242;s was more a function of Cowher not doing the right things, than the team itself being deficient.  The year after the Steelers won the Super Bowl and he chose to stick with Ben even though Stevie Wonder could see that Ben wasn&#8217;t right.  His on again-off again playing of Kordell Stewart.  (To be fair, this had more to do with the fact that the Steelers couldn&#8217;t keep an offensive coordinator for more than 2 seasons.)  Anyone could see that Stewart&#8217;s psyche is fragile.  I give him props for lasting in Pittsburgh for as long as he did, though.  Yanking him did nothing for his confidence.</p>
<p>The thing that I like about Tomlin, he realizes it&#8217;s all about the details.  Take care of the little things, and the big goal will be easier to achieve.  Also, he&#8217;s the calm that the players need to see sometimes.  Cowher, to say the least, was anything but calm.  Tomlin will chew those guys out (see Sweed in the AFC Championship game after missing that long pass and laying on the field like he was hurt, costing the team a time out), but he will also praise them (see Sweed delivering a Ward-like block a couple of plays later).  Of course, it doesn&#8217;t hurt that Tomlin was a sociology major, as far as him dealing with players.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandNubian</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandNubian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you want to hear a Steeler fan go from Cool to Irate in less than five seconds, start a convo about the QBs in the 90’s. From ‘90 to ‘04, the D was Top 10 eleven times. In those seasons, the Defense was Top 5 seven times, Top 3 seven times, First overall three times. They won ZERO rings!!&quot;

Aw man.....I wish that I could forget the 90s. We should&#039;ve had at the very least 2 rings in the 90s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you want to hear a Steeler fan go from Cool to Irate in less than five seconds, start a convo about the QBs in the 90’s. From ‘90 to ‘04, the D was Top 10 eleven times. In those seasons, the Defense was Top 5 seven times, Top 3 seven times, First overall three times. They won ZERO rings!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Aw man&#8230;..I wish that I could forget the 90s. We should&#8217;ve had at the very least 2 rings in the 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you man. I loved Bradshaw and even learned to throw like him (hand on the tip of the all), but hated him after Swanny kept going after all those hospital balls and ended up in the hospital himself. 

Brothas you have been blessed though. We got Bubby after you were done with him and subsequently went through a string of Rich Kotite retreads. That was a baaaaaad time for me.

I was calling every bad coach Rich Kotite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you man. I loved Bradshaw and even learned to throw like him (hand on the tip of the all), but hated him after Swanny kept going after all those hospital balls and ended up in the hospital himself. </p>
<p>Brothas you have been blessed though. We got Bubby after you were done with him and subsequently went through a string of Rich Kotite retreads. That was a baaaaaad time for me.</p>
<p>I was calling every bad coach Rich Kotite.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.  

Bradshaw took some time to develop.  I think he took a lot of that stuff personally when it really wasn&#039;t personal -- even though it was framed in personal terms.  No one thinks Brett Favre is a genius or dedicated student of the game -- but he won games early in Green Bay.  If he&#039;d lost, he&#039;d probably have gotten the same treatment he received in Atlanta.  Winning changed everything -- but it didn&#039;t make Favre smart.  It seems not to have made Bradshaw smart, either...though he&#039;s capitalized on that image of him in a masterful way.

I can understand how a young man would be injured by that assault on their sensibilities.  They just need to know its as impersonal as the adulation.  

Mizzo -- See what I&#039;m talking about:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you want to hear a Steeler fan go from Cool to Irate in less than five seconds...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s kos with flaming exclamation points!  We&#039;re like Pavlov&#039;s Dog when we hear those names!!! Grrrrrr!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.  </p>
<p>Bradshaw took some time to develop.  I think he took a lot of that stuff personally when it really wasn&#8217;t personal &#8212; even though it was framed in personal terms.  No one thinks Brett Favre is a genius or dedicated student of the game &#8212; but he won games early in Green Bay.  If he&#8217;d lost, he&#8217;d probably have gotten the same treatment he received in Atlanta.  Winning changed everything &#8212; but it didn&#8217;t make Favre smart.  It seems not to have made Bradshaw smart, either&#8230;though he&#8217;s capitalized on that image of him in a masterful way.</p>
<p>I can understand how a young man would be injured by that assault on their sensibilities.  They just need to know its as impersonal as the adulation.  </p>
<p>Mizzo &#8212; See what I&#8217;m talking about:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to hear a Steeler fan go from Cool to Irate in less than five seconds&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s kos with flaming exclamation points!  We&#8217;re like Pavlov&#8217;s Dog when we hear those names!!! Grrrrrr!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kos</title>
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		<dc:creator>kos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T3-

Don&#039;t even mention Maddox!  I feel about Maddox the same way you feel about the Steelers not using a fullback!  I remember fans saying he was an upgrade to Kordell Stewart.  Only in the time it took for teams to understand that the guy was going to throw picks a whole lot quicker.  And remember, even Bradshaw caught the wrath of the fans early on.  (Granted, this had a lot to do with the writers, but it spilled over to the fans) Lil&#039; Abner??!!  Snuffy Smith?!!  Guy wouldn&#039;t even come back to Pittsburgh for a long time.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t even mention Maddox!  I feel about Maddox the same way you feel about the Steelers not using a fullback!  I remember fans saying he was an upgrade to Kordell Stewart.  Only in the time it took for teams to understand that the guy was going to throw picks a whole lot quicker.  And remember, even Bradshaw caught the wrath of the fans early on.  (Granted, this had a lot to do with the writers, but it spilled over to the fans) Lil&#8217; Abner??!!  Snuffy Smith?!!  Guy wouldn&#8217;t even come back to Pittsburgh for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add Tommy Maddox to that list.  He was prolific for a minute, but he was a walking INT.</description>
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