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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good, P.

Have a great weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good, P.</p>
<p>Have a great weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot; you are a true Prophet of Doom. LOL...&quot;

Maybe so.... LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221; you are a true Prophet of Doom. LOL&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so&#8230;. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidentally, Jarrett Bell&#039;s USA Today piece on Lovie and Vick is more of the same.  It&#039;s classic positioning. 

Negro gets the boot.  Other Negroes called to account for actions of booted Negro.

USA didn&#039;t print or Bell didn&#039;t solicit quotes from white coaches -- nope...they just asked Lovie to account for Mike.

It&#039;s all positioning and it&#039;s all bullshit.  Lovie&#039;s not in any more trouble than any of the other coaches in the league.  Gruden, Shanny and several others got the boot.  No one is wearing teflon except for Billy B., Mike T. and Coughlin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidentally, Jarrett Bell&#8217;s USA Today piece on Lovie and Vick is more of the same.  It&#8217;s classic positioning. </p>
<p>Negro gets the boot.  Other Negroes called to account for actions of booted Negro.</p>
<p>USA didn&#8217;t print or Bell didn&#8217;t solicit quotes from white coaches &#8212; nope&#8230;they just asked Lovie to account for Mike.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all positioning and it&#8217;s all bullshit.  Lovie&#8217;s not in any more trouble than any of the other coaches in the league.  Gruden, Shanny and several others got the boot.  No one is wearing teflon except for Billy B., Mike T. and Coughlin.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick -- you are a true Prophet of Doom.  LOL

ROTFLMBAO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick &#8212; you are a true Prophet of Doom.  LOL</p>
<p>ROTFLMBAO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

Scott Hanson, the guy who posted on the NFL blog, is full of shit.  His piece was written to make it seem like Campbell was just as shaky and prone to bitchness as Cutler.  No one has a single quote from Campbell that suggested his &quot;nerves&quot; needed to be calmed by anyone.  

This whole thing is about positioning players to be perceived a certain way.  

I flat out reject each word that Hanson had to put down because his approach has been to mirror the tactics of management.  

They may certainly want to move JC, but it ain&#039;t about nerves.  If anything, the dude is unflappable and they can&#039;t stand that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>Scott Hanson, the guy who posted on the NFL blog, is full of shit.  His piece was written to make it seem like Campbell was just as shaky and prone to bitchness as Cutler.  No one has a single quote from Campbell that suggested his &#8220;nerves&#8221; needed to be calmed by anyone.  </p>
<p>This whole thing is about positioning players to be perceived a certain way.  </p>
<p>I flat out reject each word that Hanson had to put down because his approach has been to mirror the tactics of management.  </p>
<p>They may certainly want to move JC, but it ain&#8217;t about nerves.  If anything, the dude is unflappable and they can&#8217;t stand that.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovie is in trouble. And I believe he wanted the Bears to get the less complicated Vick.  Vick could have helped Lovie rebuild his defense, but now they have pay Cutler a lot of money and the Bears lost TWO first round draft choices that could helped the Bears defensively this year and the following year. 

Bears&#039; fans think they would be better off with Cutler than Vick and quite a few would rather lose &#039;pretty&#039; with Cutler than win with Vick...just to make a point.

I feel bad for Lovie, because things probably won&#039;t end well. And I believe his comments about Vick was a calculated PLEA to Angelo:

&quot;Mike made a mistake, and he&#039;s paying the price for that mistake. Once you&#039;ve paid your debt to society, you have to say, &#039;OK, let&#039;s go on from there.&#039; &quot;

Usually, Lovie is very low-key, but he felt compelled to talk about Vick.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/03/would-the-chicago-bears-be-interested-in-michael-vick.html

Cutler is football diva with an unimpressive 17-20 record as a NFL starter, and there are no playoff guarantees with this type of player. He couldn&#039;t lead his team to a postseason bowl berth at Vanderbilt in three years nor in Denver after being there for three years.

And if it becomes the CUTLER IN CHARGE show with Lovie  or the Chicago defense being the target of media rants, the Bears&#039; locker room will divide very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovie is in trouble. And I believe he wanted the Bears to get the less complicated Vick.  Vick could have helped Lovie rebuild his defense, but now they have pay Cutler a lot of money and the Bears lost TWO first round draft choices that could helped the Bears defensively this year and the following year. </p>
<p>Bears&#8217; fans think they would be better off with Cutler than Vick and quite a few would rather lose &#8216;pretty&#8217; with Cutler than win with Vick&#8230;just to make a point.</p>
<p>I feel bad for Lovie, because things probably won&#8217;t end well. And I believe his comments about Vick was a calculated PLEA to Angelo:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mike made a mistake, and he&#8217;s paying the price for that mistake. Once you&#8217;ve paid your debt to society, you have to say, &#8216;OK, let&#8217;s go on from there.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>Usually, Lovie is very low-key, but he felt compelled to talk about Vick.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/03/would-the-chicago-bears-be-interested-in-michael-vick.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/03/would-the-chicago-bears-be-interested-in-michael-vick.html</a></p>
<p>Cutler is football diva with an unimpressive 17-20 record as a NFL starter, and there are no playoff guarantees with this type of player. He couldn&#8217;t lead his team to a postseason bowl berth at Vanderbilt in three years nor in Denver after being there for three years.</p>
<p>And if it becomes the CUTLER IN CHARGE show with Lovie  or the Chicago defense being the target of media rants, the Bears&#8217; locker room will divide very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Patrick..I was thinking the same thing when the trade went down.

This is indeed Lovie&#039;s last year. 

Even though the cheap bears made this trade, exactly who is Cutler suppose to throw to???

Never put it past the Mckaskeys but I swear this was a media and cost cutting move. Yeah they have Cutler, but they also got rid of 2 1st round picks over the next 2 years. 

And Mizzo if you think Lurie is cheap..........shoot he doesn&#039;t have anything on the Mckaskey Family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Patrick..I was thinking the same thing when the trade went down.</p>
<p>This is indeed Lovie&#8217;s last year. </p>
<p>Even though the cheap bears made this trade, exactly who is Cutler suppose to throw to???</p>
<p>Never put it past the Mckaskeys but I swear this was a media and cost cutting move. Yeah they have Cutler, but they also got rid of 2 1st round picks over the next 2 years. </p>
<p>And Mizzo if you think Lurie is cheap&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.shoot he doesn&#8217;t have anything on the Mckaskey Family.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple:

Cutler had a nice statistical 2008 season. I am NOT denying him that, but there are other intangibles that work against Cutler such as his ego and/or attitude. 

Cutler has NFL talent, but the way he acted to get out of Denver may be a Jeff George-like or Ryan Leaf pre-cursor. Lovie Smith is black, and I wonder if Cutler ever took orders from a black man before? When things go bad, will Cutler use the &#039;n&#039; word?
 
There is something about Cutler I don&#039;t like, there is an arrogance there, not an athletic arrogance, but a stuck up, a-hole type arrogance.... and I don&#039;t think it will help the Bears get where they want to be.

...and its only a matter time when Cutler calls out Lovie and suggest he should be fired to the MEDIA--either discreetly or not so discreetly.  This trade was all Jerry Angelo, not Lovie. The first or second three-INT game by Cutler is when stuff starts to hit the fan and the Chicago media will side with Cutler...and unfortunately Lovie may join Herm in the broadcast booth..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple:</p>
<p>Cutler had a nice statistical 2008 season. I am NOT denying him that, but there are other intangibles that work against Cutler such as his ego and/or attitude. </p>
<p>Cutler has NFL talent, but the way he acted to get out of Denver may be a Jeff George-like or Ryan Leaf pre-cursor. Lovie Smith is black, and I wonder if Cutler ever took orders from a black man before? When things go bad, will Cutler use the &#8216;n&#8217; word?</p>
<p>There is something about Cutler I don&#8217;t like, there is an arrogance there, not an athletic arrogance, but a stuck up, a-hole type arrogance&#8230;. and I don&#8217;t think it will help the Bears get where they want to be.</p>
<p>&#8230;and its only a matter time when Cutler calls out Lovie and suggest he should be fired to the MEDIA&#8211;either discreetly or not so discreetly.  This trade was all Jerry Angelo, not Lovie. The first or second three-INT game by Cutler is when stuff starts to hit the fan and the Chicago media will side with Cutler&#8230;and unfortunately Lovie may join Herm in the broadcast booth..</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... I’d be curious to see a study done analyzing starts by black position players and how that affects/correlates to the winning percentage of their teams. Over the last 10 years or so...&quot;

Damon:

I would be interested in a study being done as well. As you know, the number of blacks playing in baseball has dropped dramatically. In the 1980&#039;s, nearly three of 10 MLB players were black...now it is less than one out of every ten MLB players.

However, if you look at rosters such as last year&#039;s World Champion Phillies with Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins who are the team&#039;s franchise players... Tampa had Carl Crawford, Upton, David Price, Edwin Jackson (now with the Tigers) and Cliff Floyd on their (2008) World Series roster. The playoff bound Dodgers had Matt Kemp, Russell Martin, Juan Pierre and James Loney along with pitchers James McDonald and Cory Wade.

Remember Cito Gaston&#039;s Blue Jays teams of the 1990&#039;s with Dave Winfield, Joe Carter, Dave Stewart and others... or Leyland&#039;s Pittsburgh teams with Bonilla and Bonds ...

As a side note, the Milwaukee Brewers have one of the most diverse teams in baseball with Bill Hall, Prince Fielder, Ricky Weekes, Mike Cameron and until recently Tony Gwynn, Jr....last year Milwaukee had C.C. Sabeitha..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; I’d be curious to see a study done analyzing starts by black position players and how that affects/correlates to the winning percentage of their teams. Over the last 10 years or so&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Damon:</p>
<p>I would be interested in a study being done as well. As you know, the number of blacks playing in baseball has dropped dramatically. In the 1980&#8242;s, nearly three of 10 MLB players were black&#8230;now it is less than one out of every ten MLB players.</p>
<p>However, if you look at rosters such as last year&#8217;s World Champion Phillies with Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins who are the team&#8217;s franchise players&#8230; Tampa had Carl Crawford, Upton, David Price, Edwin Jackson (now with the Tigers) and Cliff Floyd on their (2008) World Series roster. The playoff bound Dodgers had Matt Kemp, Russell Martin, Juan Pierre and James Loney along with pitchers James McDonald and Cory Wade.</p>
<p>Remember Cito Gaston&#8217;s Blue Jays teams of the 1990&#8242;s with Dave Winfield, Joe Carter, Dave Stewart and others&#8230; or Leyland&#8217;s Pittsburgh teams with Bonilla and Bonds &#8230;</p>
<p>As a side note, the Milwaukee Brewers have one of the most diverse teams in baseball with Bill Hall, Prince Fielder, Ricky Weekes, Mike Cameron and until recently Tony Gwynn, Jr&#8230;.last year Milwaukee had C.C. Sabeitha..</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/02/redskins-qb-campbell-gets-lesson-on-nfl-business/

Campbell has a reprieve for now, but a DRAFT DAY TRADE is still in the picture.

There is a strong undercurrent from Redskins media and fans to start Colt Brennan.</description>
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<p>Campbell has a reprieve for now, but a DRAFT DAY TRADE is still in the picture.</p>
<p>There is a strong undercurrent from Redskins media and fans to start Colt Brennan.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened?  The Skins are benching Campbell?</description>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”What is it with White coaches who don’t want to teach young Black kids and then label them attitude problems when they rebel?&quot;

I&#039;m just going to answer this question briefly before I even read the post above: Do you ever see a female lion trying to rear a tiger cub? They&#039;re both cats. But that&#039;s a rarity, right? 

With humans it&#039;s definitely feasible, but it&#039;s likely going to be easier for an Korean man to teach a Korean child than for a white or black man to try to do the same. 

That&#039;s partly why if you can find a good/great black coach, you best hold on to him for dear life because he&#039;ll keep the attention of his black players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”What is it with White coaches who don’t want to teach young Black kids and then label them attitude problems when they rebel?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just going to answer this question briefly before I even read the post above: Do you ever see a female lion trying to rear a tiger cub? They&#8217;re both cats. But that&#8217;s a rarity, right? </p>
<p>With humans it&#8217;s definitely feasible, but it&#8217;s likely going to be easier for an Korean man to teach a Korean child than for a white or black man to try to do the same. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s partly why if you can find a good/great black coach, you best hold on to him for dear life because he&#8217;ll keep the attention of his black players.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....&quot;What is it with White coaches who don’t want to teach young Black kids and then label them attitude problems when they rebel?

I’m just giving you my experience. Yes, I have had White coaches who have stepped up and taught me the game, but it was a different time. Michael Jordan hadn’t yet ushered Black kids onto the hardwood. Reggie Jackson, Rod Carew and Jim Rice were the players I emulated.

Now, baseball is a White sport with American Blacks only making up 8 percent of its players. That’s the worse in the two decades where such statistics were measured.

Yes, Gaston has other opportunities to become a collegiate student athlete in football and basketball, but does that preclude coaches to force him out of the sport so a young White kid can have a spot rightfully reserved strictly because of his race.....?&quot;


Many young African-American kids are steered away at a very early age who are very talented, and for those who decided to continue despite the obstacles and is signed to a MLB contract, most are drafted in the later rounds and not deemed as immediate can&#039;t miss prospects. With the Braves, Jermaine Dye was not highly touted, but he persevered to become a MLB prospect and Schuerholz (just like the coach in your piece does a 180 and show their true colors). Ron Gant came up through the Braves organization as a second baseman in 1987. However, he made too many errors (31 errors in 1988 and another 16 in 1989)... If Schuerholz was there, he would have killed Gant&#039;s career right there..However, GM Bobby Cox didn&#039;t give up on Gant. He sent him back for the remainder of the 1989 season to learn the outfield and brought him back up and it helped save his career. However, once Schuerholz became GM, Gant wasn&#039;t viewed as a long-term franchise player. Schuerholz wanted to give Gant&#039;s job to Ryan Klesko..and Schuerholz did exactly that when he cut Gant in 1994 during the strike season.

Racism exist on all levels and it is practiced by some white coaches on the Little League level or it plays itself out through general managers on the major league level. There are &#039;silent gloves&#039; out there, but there has to be more of a LIGHT directed at people such as John Schuerholz and others who practice this type of exclusion and other GMs across the league have emulated this style of managing. Schuerholz felt uncomfortable when Rainbow PUSH called him out in 2007, but there was a mainstream media backlash trying to imply Rainbow PUSH wanted quotas..and that wasn&#039;t the case. Schuerholz and other GMs are practicing exclusion of players of color particularily African-American in an effort to minimize the impact of blacks in baseball.

Here in Atlanta for many black youth when they turn on a Braves telecast there are virtually NO African-Americans-- except for the OTHER TEAM. And this does have an affect on black kids in regards to role models. In the 1990&#039;s, there was Ron Gant or David Justice or Otis Nixon or Deion Sanders or Fred McGriff or Marquis Grissom, and it isn&#039;t a coinceidence when the Braves had their MOST DIVERSE TEAM, the Braves had the MOST SUCCESS. Black people were going to the Fulton County Stadium/Turner Field BUYING TICKETS. Little black kids and teenagers were wearing Braves gear. Now that has subsided.

It has been ten years since the Braves have been to the World Series, and three years since the team has been to the playoffs.... Schuerholz plan of whitewashing the roster is complete, but things can turn around if we don&#039;t stay &#039;silent&#039;...

The mainstream media keeps asking EVERY SPRING about what can we do to get more blacks in baseball? The answer isn&#039;t  exclusively giving more resources to the RBI program, but expose the racist GMs and team presidents such as John Schuerholz...once these relics are exposed and removed, then young black kids&#039; opportunities to play baseball will start to grow once again..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..&#8221;What is it with White coaches who don’t want to teach young Black kids and then label them attitude problems when they rebel?</p>
<p>I’m just giving you my experience. Yes, I have had White coaches who have stepped up and taught me the game, but it was a different time. Michael Jordan hadn’t yet ushered Black kids onto the hardwood. Reggie Jackson, Rod Carew and Jim Rice were the players I emulated.</p>
<p>Now, baseball is a White sport with American Blacks only making up 8 percent of its players. That’s the worse in the two decades where such statistics were measured.</p>
<p>Yes, Gaston has other opportunities to become a collegiate student athlete in football and basketball, but does that preclude coaches to force him out of the sport so a young White kid can have a spot rightfully reserved strictly because of his race&#8230;..?&#8221;</p>
<p>Many young African-American kids are steered away at a very early age who are very talented, and for those who decided to continue despite the obstacles and is signed to a MLB contract, most are drafted in the later rounds and not deemed as immediate can&#8217;t miss prospects. With the Braves, Jermaine Dye was not highly touted, but he persevered to become a MLB prospect and Schuerholz (just like the coach in your piece does a 180 and show their true colors). Ron Gant came up through the Braves organization as a second baseman in 1987. However, he made too many errors (31 errors in 1988 and another 16 in 1989)&#8230; If Schuerholz was there, he would have killed Gant&#8217;s career right there..However, GM Bobby Cox didn&#8217;t give up on Gant. He sent him back for the remainder of the 1989 season to learn the outfield and brought him back up and it helped save his career. However, once Schuerholz became GM, Gant wasn&#8217;t viewed as a long-term franchise player. Schuerholz wanted to give Gant&#8217;s job to Ryan Klesko..and Schuerholz did exactly that when he cut Gant in 1994 during the strike season.</p>
<p>Racism exist on all levels and it is practiced by some white coaches on the Little League level or it plays itself out through general managers on the major league level. There are &#8216;silent gloves&#8217; out there, but there has to be more of a LIGHT directed at people such as John Schuerholz and others who practice this type of exclusion and other GMs across the league have emulated this style of managing. Schuerholz felt uncomfortable when Rainbow PUSH called him out in 2007, but there was a mainstream media backlash trying to imply Rainbow PUSH wanted quotas..and that wasn&#8217;t the case. Schuerholz and other GMs are practicing exclusion of players of color particularily African-American in an effort to minimize the impact of blacks in baseball.</p>
<p>Here in Atlanta for many black youth when they turn on a Braves telecast there are virtually NO African-Americans&#8211; except for the OTHER TEAM. And this does have an affect on black kids in regards to role models. In the 1990&#8242;s, there was Ron Gant or David Justice or Otis Nixon or Deion Sanders or Fred McGriff or Marquis Grissom, and it isn&#8217;t a coinceidence when the Braves had their MOST DIVERSE TEAM, the Braves had the MOST SUCCESS. Black people were going to the Fulton County Stadium/Turner Field BUYING TICKETS. Little black kids and teenagers were wearing Braves gear. Now that has subsided.</p>
<p>It has been ten years since the Braves have been to the World Series, and three years since the team has been to the playoffs&#8230;. Schuerholz plan of whitewashing the roster is complete, but things can turn around if we don&#8217;t stay &#8216;silent&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>The mainstream media keeps asking EVERY SPRING about what can we do to get more blacks in baseball? The answer isn&#8217;t  exclusively giving more resources to the RBI program, but expose the racist GMs and team presidents such as John Schuerholz&#8230;once these relics are exposed and removed, then young black kids&#8217; opportunities to play baseball will start to grow once again..</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
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		<description>@patrick &amp; Mizzo: I&#039;d be curious to see a study done analyzing starts by black position players and how that affects/correlates to the winning percentage of their teams. Over the last 10 years or so.

There has to be someone out there who can come up with some data like that. IDK, there&#039;s just a part of me that knows that if you put that type of talent that they have in Tampa (where there are three or four black position players) or like Minnesota once had with Torii Hunter, Jacque Jones and (third name eludes me), there&#039;s a good chance for success.

I&#039;d love to see that study done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@patrick &amp; Mizzo: I&#8217;d be curious to see a study done analyzing starts by black position players and how that affects/correlates to the winning percentage of their teams. Over the last 10 years or so.</p>
<p>There has to be someone out there who can come up with some data like that. IDK, there&#8217;s just a part of me that knows that if you put that type of talent that they have in Tampa (where there are three or four black position players) or like Minnesota once had with Torii Hunter, Jacque Jones and (third name eludes me), there&#8217;s a good chance for success.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see that study done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick read &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/16/the-silent-glove-a-fathers-wish-for-his-son-to-reconnect-with-baseball/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and there&#039;s a huge part of your reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick read <a href="http://thestartingfive.net/2008/07/16/the-silent-glove-a-fathers-wish-for-his-son-to-reconnect-with-baseball/" rel="nofollow">this</a> and there&#8217;s a huge part of your reason.</p>
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