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	<title>Comments on: Monday Morning Starting Five: The R.I.P. Steve Air McNair Edition</title>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Sankofa said about the cheating angle being the start of the argument to keep Steve McNair out of the hall is SOOOOOO true.  Soo true.  It really would be sad if Steve Damn DeBerg got in.  And as Tariq said about Temple3 - yes, he is very smart.  All of you guys are on point on this.  I just wish that commentators could stick to sports...the actual game, and leave everything else out.  I don&#039;t know the nature of Steve&#039;s relationship with his widow and quite frankly it doesn&#039;t concern me.  She&#039;s going through her own personal hell right now, regardless of what that relationship was so I hope that folks can give her some peace.  And anyway, as Origin said, who knows what goes on behind closed doors?  I&#039;m never surprised to hear celebrity breakups, or the secrets coming out of the closet or anything.  While we&#039;re going about our business day-to-day, ish is happening and to assume it isn&#039;t is just naive.  Anyway, RIP Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Sankofa said about the cheating angle being the start of the argument to keep Steve McNair out of the hall is SOOOOOO true.  Soo true.  It really would be sad if Steve Damn DeBerg got in.  And as Tariq said about Temple3 &#8211; yes, he is very smart.  All of you guys are on point on this.  I just wish that commentators could stick to sports&#8230;the actual game, and leave everything else out.  I don&#8217;t know the nature of Steve&#8217;s relationship with his widow and quite frankly it doesn&#8217;t concern me.  She&#8217;s going through her own personal hell right now, regardless of what that relationship was so I hope that folks can give her some peace.  And anyway, as Origin said, who knows what goes on behind closed doors?  I&#8217;m never surprised to hear celebrity breakups, or the secrets coming out of the closet or anything.  While we&#8217;re going about our business day-to-day, ish is happening and to assume it isn&#8217;t is just naive.  Anyway, RIP Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You brothers are on point on the double standards, but let&#039;s not let the enemies of truth have us be distracted by ancillary conversation about his peccadillo. What Mizzo initially stated was a brother, father, son, husband, friend and icon was snatched up too young, cut down like a dog by some one with a purpose. 

Now the media or the po-lice seem to be angling towards the girlfriend… an easy “wrap and cut to commercial!”. Which is a double blow to her family!

Somewhere in some corner of Babylon, we need to take the remembrance of ours out of the hands of the doers of Isfet so they don’t distort their tales. And while doing so, lets pause and reflect on how far this “civilized” Western society has/ is going in relations to African people  and all people on the outside looking in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You brothers are on point on the double standards, but let&#8217;s not let the enemies of truth have us be distracted by ancillary conversation about his peccadillo. What Mizzo initially stated was a brother, father, son, husband, friend and icon was snatched up too young, cut down like a dog by some one with a purpose. </p>
<p>Now the media or the po-lice seem to be angling towards the girlfriend… an easy “wrap and cut to commercial!”. Which is a double blow to her family!</p>
<p>Somewhere in some corner of Babylon, we need to take the remembrance of ours out of the hands of the doers of Isfet so they don’t distort their tales. And while doing so, lets pause and reflect on how far this “civilized” Western society has/ is going in relations to African people  and all people on the outside looking in.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origin:

That&#039;s the Old School way of sustaining relationships.  It&#039;s why heads of state in Europe never get removed from office for having &quot;affairs.&quot;  Damn sure wouldn&#039;t happen in Africa or Asia.  And people wonder why the Puritans got run the f%@!!! out of dodge.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s the Old School way of sustaining relationships.  It&#8217;s why heads of state in Europe never get removed from office for having &#8220;affairs.&#8221;  Damn sure wouldn&#8217;t happen in Africa or Asia.  And people wonder why the Puritans got run the f%@!!! out of dodge.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add another example of what I mentioned above would be the relationship between Kenny Anderson and the young lady on the real world.

Now I don&#039;t think that there was a mutual agreement in terms of Monogamy was ever involved (because she was on Oprah after the divorce).

But all of the attributes of the relationships I mentioned above were there.....economical support for the woman (who was looking for a man that could provide a lavish life style for her).....the man getting a women who for a lack of a better word was &quot;going places&quot; in terms of stardom or earning potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add another example of what I mentioned above would be the relationship between Kenny Anderson and the young lady on the real world.</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t think that there was a mutual agreement in terms of Monogamy was ever involved (because she was on Oprah after the divorce).</p>
<p>But all of the attributes of the relationships I mentioned above were there&#8230;..economical support for the woman (who was looking for a man that could provide a lavish life style for her)&#8230;..the man getting a women who for a lack of a better word was &#8220;going places&#8221; in terms of stardom or earning potential.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Matthew.....but I cannot judge what goes on in other folks houses.

As I was telling a friend of mine......many of these relationships (with folks with money), are open relationships or even mutual agreements. In that the mate with money is able to do what they want as long as the other mate is financially taken care of.

Case in point I won&#039;t say any names. But my cousin was engaged to an NFL player. They had been dating since college.

My cousin and the NFL player had come to an agreement that as long as he took care of her economically and didn&#039;t bring the women around, she didn&#039;t care what he did.

My cousin was for years openly looking to &quot;catch a star athlete in college&quot; who was going pro. And the athlete she was with was looking for a women who was bringing something to the table that the other women he was dating wasn&#039;t (my cousin was going to school to be a doctor).

The relationship was similar to relationships that many politicians make with the women they marry (IMO). The women are there because the men need these women for career advancement. Where as the women are there because the men can provide a certain life style for them or help advance their careers (see Hillary and Bill).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Matthew&#8230;..but I cannot judge what goes on in other folks houses.</p>
<p>As I was telling a friend of mine&#8230;&#8230;many of these relationships (with folks with money), are open relationships or even mutual agreements. In that the mate with money is able to do what they want as long as the other mate is financially taken care of.</p>
<p>Case in point I won&#8217;t say any names. But my cousin was engaged to an NFL player. They had been dating since college.</p>
<p>My cousin and the NFL player had come to an agreement that as long as he took care of her economically and didn&#8217;t bring the women around, she didn&#8217;t care what he did.</p>
<p>My cousin was for years openly looking to &#8220;catch a star athlete in college&#8221; who was going pro. And the athlete she was with was looking for a women who was bringing something to the table that the other women he was dating wasn&#8217;t (my cousin was going to school to be a doctor).</p>
<p>The relationship was similar to relationships that many politicians make with the women they marry (IMO). The women are there because the men need these women for career advancement. Where as the women are there because the men can provide a certain life style for them or help advance their careers (see Hillary and Bill).</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys but 

&quot;Where as whites transgressions are thought off being part of the past and shouldn’t be brought up……you know let bygones be bygones.&quot;

Should be 

&quot;Where as whites transgressions are thought of as being part of the past and shouldn’t be brought up……you know let bygones be bygones.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys but </p>
<p>&#8220;Where as whites transgressions are thought off being part of the past and shouldn’t be brought up……you know let bygones be bygones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Should be </p>
<p>&#8220;Where as whites transgressions are thought of as being part of the past and shouldn’t be brought up……you know let bygones be bygones.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric you hit the nail on the head with that statement.

Yeap the parameters of morality always change when its black folks. And we can never live down or pass so called wrong doings. No matter how long ago they happened.

Where as whites transgressions are thought off being part of the past and shouldn&#039;t be brought up......you know let bygones be bygones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric you hit the nail on the head with that statement.</p>
<p>Yeap the parameters of morality always change when its black folks. And we can never live down or pass so called wrong doings. No matter how long ago they happened.</p>
<p>Where as whites transgressions are thought off being part of the past and shouldn&#8217;t be brought up&#8230;&#8230;you know let bygones be bygones.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone&quot;?  In that case, I can&#039;t even look at a rock, let alone throw one.  Monogamy ain&#039;t a cakewalk.  It&#039;s a conscious choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone&#8221;?  In that case, I can&#8217;t even look at a rock, let alone throw one.  Monogamy ain&#8217;t a cakewalk.  It&#8217;s a conscious choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Fudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no side chick on this earth worth dying for.  I don&#039;t care how good the sex is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no side chick on this earth worth dying for.  I don&#8217;t care how good the sex is.</p>
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		<title>By: origin</title>
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		<dc:creator>origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Temple, Jerold, Eric, Sankofa.......as always you brothas speak the truth.

I really can&#039;t add any more to the comments about Steve&#039;s life on and off the field.....you guys said everything that I was thinking.

@Sankofa

&quot;However, the use of the cheating angle is the beginning of the “keep McNair out of the Hall” movement. Trust!&quot;

D@MN RIGHT!!!!

I been telling my wife this ever since the news dropped....and yes Mizzo Deberg or even Vinny will make it before Steve.

Air Mcnair is a HOFer I don&#039;t give a flip what those fools in the media say.

How in the world a man throws for 31,000 yards and rushes for 3500 and isn&#039;t a HOFer. Garbage black QBs have to jump through hoops for the HOF.

Anyway I hope that Alcorn has a tribute to the brotha for the first football game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Temple, Jerold, Eric, Sankofa&#8230;&#8230;.as always you brothas speak the truth.</p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t add any more to the comments about Steve&#8217;s life on and off the field&#8230;..you guys said everything that I was thinking.</p>
<p>@Sankofa</p>
<p>&#8220;However, the use of the cheating angle is the beginning of the “keep McNair out of the Hall” movement. Trust!&#8221;</p>
<p>D@MN RIGHT!!!!</p>
<p>I been telling my wife this ever since the news dropped&#8230;.and yes Mizzo Deberg or even Vinny will make it before Steve.</p>
<p>Air Mcnair is a HOFer I don&#8217;t give a flip what those fools in the media say.</p>
<p>How in the world a man throws for 31,000 yards and rushes for 3500 and isn&#8217;t a HOFer. Garbage black QBs have to jump through hoops for the HOF.</p>
<p>Anyway I hope that Alcorn has a tribute to the brotha for the first football game.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanfoka,

One thing I have always observed about America and Black Men is the double standard of morality they always assign to us when we have moral failings. It does  not matter if it&#039;s Ike Turner, Micheal Jackson, Jim Brown or Prince , White Americans (and many minorities) will act like moral gatekeepers but will deny that John Lennon beat up his first wife or that Brad Pitt had an affair with Angelina Jolie while still married to Jennifer Aniston and still give the benefit of the doubt and celebrate their achievements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanfoka,</p>
<p>One thing I have always observed about America and Black Men is the double standard of morality they always assign to us when we have moral failings. It does  not matter if it&#8217;s Ike Turner, Micheal Jackson, Jim Brown or Prince , White Americans (and many minorities) will act like moral gatekeepers but will deny that John Lennon beat up his first wife or that Brad Pitt had an affair with Angelina Jolie while still married to Jennifer Aniston and still give the benefit of the doubt and celebrate their achievements.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch someone like Steve Deberg get in one day way down the line based on touchdowns and longevity.

It&#039;s not about titles or Marino wouldn&#039;t have smelled the Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch someone like Steve Deberg get in one day way down the line based on touchdowns and longevity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about titles or Marino wouldn&#8217;t have smelled the Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right on Temple about Mc Nair, if we are going to judge Quarterbacks by championships then Brad Johnson should be in the HOF , stats are not the true indicator of team success. Mc Nair had to play with less talent than Manning and Brady with only Eddie George and Jeff Fisher&#039;s conservative offense schemes hindred his development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right on Temple about Mc Nair, if we are going to judge Quarterbacks by championships then Brad Johnson should be in the HOF , stats are not the true indicator of team success. Mc Nair had to play with less talent than Manning and Brady with only Eddie George and Jeff Fisher&#8217;s conservative offense schemes hindred his development.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear the call about the infidelity thing and concur. I also heard that he and his wife was separated (don&#039;t know the validity of that) not that it really matters at this point.

However, the use of the cheating angle is the beginning of the &quot;keep McNair out of the Hall&quot; movement. Trust!

As Temple said, even with the people around him, he was still a warrior and produced. 

I see it hear and also on the continual Michael Jackson is a pervert/pedophilia attacks. African people...it&#039;s still not safe to get in the murky waters of gutter attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear the call about the infidelity thing and concur. I also heard that he and his wife was separated (don&#8217;t know the validity of that) not that it really matters at this point.</p>
<p>However, the use of the cheating angle is the beginning of the &#8220;keep McNair out of the Hall&#8221; movement. Trust!</p>
<p>As Temple said, even with the people around him, he was still a warrior and produced. </p>
<p>I see it hear and also on the continual Michael Jackson is a pervert/pedophilia attacks. African people&#8230;it&#8217;s still not safe to get in the murky waters of gutter attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So sad</description>
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