Fourth Quarter


“I’ve been doing this for years man…my rep is legit…”

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Jet Favre…I meant to say Brett Favre is back playing quarterback, and this isn’t about a legacy, or stats for that matter…this time I believe its personal.

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Originally drafted out of the University of Southern Mississippi by the Atlanta Falcons in ’91…the legend of Brett Favre became as solid as the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field, once he began to lead the Packers back to their glory days as Titletown USA. In 2008 he retired, and once he decided he wanted to play again…the Packers blocked him from going to any team in the NFC North division, so they wouldn’t have to play against him. He was consequently traded to the NY Jets, in which he retired again on February 11, 2009.
Yesterday he came out of hibernation only to sign with the Minnesota Vikings…an NFC North Division team. Interestingly enough…the Vikings play the Packers on October 5th in Minnesota, and then again at Green Bay on November 1st.
I believe the only reason Favre is back playing football is because he has something to prove not only to himself, but most importantly to the Packers…a club that he rebuilt, and won Super Bowl XXXI with.
This signing doesn’t make a lot of sense for the Purple People Eaters, but it is what it is, and we can only watch, wait, and hope that Favre can make for some entertaining football. He will more than likely start, and with a running back like Adrian Peterson, the gun slinging quarterback won’t have to throw as much, which could preserve his nagging shoulder injury deeper into the season.
Favre is back and as the old saying goes…there is nothing new under the sun.

19 Responses to “Fourth Quarter”

  1. Eric Daniels says:

    Where does Tavaris Jackson goes because this leaves him the odd man out in this carosuel. Mizzo, hope things are going better for you and much blessings !!!

  2. Jerold Wells Jr. says:

    As the resident Vikings fan of the site, I know you guys have been waiting for me to elaborate of these happenings. Thanks AG for the rundown. Now if I may:

    I think Tavaris is done in Minnesota. Last year he showed us the good, the bad and the ugly. When I watch him I see a tentative QB that is either unsure of his progressions and checkdowns or unprepared. Bad throws are bad throws and they happen but Jackson never really won me over with his “it” factor. That being said, I really thought he was coming along at the end of last season. The playoff loss to the Iggles was a result of too many turnovers. Between Jackson and Peterson ball security was horrendous. Jackson’s fumble off of his leg was more damaging than the pick 6. Even in the loss Jackson seemed to be improving.

    Then comes the offseason and soundbites from veteran teammates that Jackson wasn’t as prepared and or committed as he should be. The quarterback position is too vital to half ass it. I acknowledge and understand Jackson’s issue with his young son’s health. If that is a problem then step away. Handle family and come back when the time is right. In terms of really commanding the QB position, Jackson just didn’t do it. You can’t argue with results people. Tarvaris has now lost his job to Gus Frerotte, been subject to competiton with Sage Rosenfels and lost his job to Brett Favre. God Bless the young man I wish him all the best.

    As for my Vikings. Favre makes them a contender. I believe the Broncos won back to back Super Bowls with an over the hill Hall of Famer right? We have a top 5 rushing attack and a top, eh, 10 defense. (lock down against the run, shaky against the pass) Favre has to identify and capitalize on opportunities in the pass game because they’ll be there. Berrian, Rice, Shiancoe and Harvin will have to make plays down field for this team to be formidable offensively.

    Detroit and Chicago don’t scare me. Green Bay has the tools on offense but the first year of a 3-4 scheme should make them shaky enough to be beaten. We win the NFC North.

    Arizona, Carolina, New York and Philly are the class of the conference. If the offense keeps the turnovers down we can compete with any of those teams.

    I’m just sayin……..

  3. Miranda says:

    “I believe the Broncos won back to back Super Bowls with an over the hill Hall of Famer right?”

    not with this one they didn’t.

    LOL…sorry Jerold but as soon as I read that line, I swear I heard my father’s voice…that is exactly what he would say if you said that line to him…LOL

  4. michelle says:


    Witty as always. Is anyone else having trouble viewing the comments?

  5. Origin says:

    Dang just when I thought I could put the Matt Ryan Voodo Doll away…………..I got to get a Brett Farve one.


    I thought Obama stopped the cash for clunkers program. I see the Vikings must not have gotten the notice.

  6. Miranda says:

    LMAO @ Origin.

  7. Mike says:

    And you hate Matt Ryan, why?

  8. Temple3 says:

    Just a few thoughts on the Packers:

    1) I don’t believe Favre the Packers. The Packers had begun to put some pieces in place before Favre arrived. The Packers were rebuilt by Mike Holmgren and the off-shoots of the San Francisco 49ers. The new Packers first DB coach under Holmgren was Ray Rhodes. The offensive coordinator was Sherman Lewis.

    2) The Packers had a VERY, VERY, VERY good quarterback BEFORE Favre became a starter. That QB was known as The Magic Man – Don Majkowski. For those of you who may be a bit old school, you may remember “Majik to Sharpe” — they set it off for a minute before DM went down and Favre stepped in. He was never the same after his knee injury.

    In 1989, Majkowki threw for 4,318 yards and 27 touchdowns. (Favre’s thrown for that many yards just 1 time in 16 years.) Majik led the league in yards, attempts and completions. Sterling Sharpe had 90 catches for about 1500 yards and 12 tds. The Packers tied for first in the division, but missed the playoffs on tie-breakers with the Vikings.

    3) Given Holmgren’s/Lewis’ success with quarterbacks, it’s not surprising that the Packers OFFENSE took off, but the key to the resurgence of that franchise was on defense. The defense was anchored up front by Reggie White and in the back by Leroy Butler. In some respects, a great deal of that 1996 SB championship can be credited to former Eagles like White and Keith Jackson (led team with 10 tds) and coach Ray Rhodes.

    I’m not writing this to take credit AWAY from Favre as much as I am writing it to say that the true architects of the franchise deserve the credit. He was signed based on his POTENTIAL. He was a bust in ATL who proved to be undisciplined and prone to errant throws.

    Favre had some amazing years in Green Bay. From ’94 to ’97, he was as good as anyone who’s ever played. I believe that much of that is attributable to Sherman Lewis.

    Favre appears to be a system quarterback. He needs to be in a system that neutralizes the pass rush through screens, counters, draws and play action fakes. The Packers were the B-E-S-T screen team in the entire league when he played there. When he doesn’t play in that type of system, he looks alot like the guy the Falcons cut so many years ago. Sherman Lewis and Mike Holmgren and Ray Rhodes deserve a GREAT DEAL of credit for building the Packers into a champion based on the model perfected by Bill Walsh and company in San Francisco.

    The Vikings have a tremendous defense in place, but the Favre that won a Super Bowl in GB was a different dude — capable of throwing for 4,000 yards and 35 TDs while surrendering less than 15 picks. This 2009 guy is somewhere between redemption and purgatory.

  9. Temple3 says:


    I feel your excitement. I really do.

    Just remember that the Jets had a better set of receivers than the Vikings; a running back that averaged 4.5 yards per carry; a back up that went to the Pro Bowl (Leon Washington); a powerful offensive line that absolutely pimp smacked Albert Haynesworth and the Titans; and a tough defense — and they still finished 9-7; lost 4 of their last 5; and dealt with the crushed hopes of losing to Miami to close out the season in a do or die game vs. Chad Pennington.

    The NFC isn’t as tough as the AFC, but all I can say is Buyer Beware.

  10. GrandNubian says:

    Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but Usain Bolt has done it again.

    He ran a 19.19 in the 200m to break his own record.

  11. Temple3 says:

    That’s AMAZING!!!

  12. Lisa says:

    I hope Favre steps it up this season and does well for his team.

  13. Origin says:

    Great points Temple.

    Check out this article.

    “Cheesehead reality bites
    Cold, Hard Football Facts for August 5, 2008

    Cheeseheads are like the kid you run into 10 years after high school, only to discover that he still works at the Pump ‘n Save, still wears his varsity wrestling jacket and still wants to talk only about the “glory days” of a decade ago.

    They’re both stuck in 1996 and have never moved past it.

    The truth is that Brett Favre, who returns to the Packers this week five months after “retiring,” has never been the same quarterback he was in his “glory days” of 1995-97. Back then, he became the first player in history to win three straight NFL MVP awards. (Though, interestingly, he’s never once led the league in passer rating.)

    But the track record since then is not so hot. In fact, like the kid still working at the Pump ‘n Save, life has kicked the Cheeseheads in the gonads a few times. So instead of dealing with the painful memories, your old buddy still clings to his wrestling jacket and the days when he ruled the school, just like Favre fans cling to the No. 4 jerseys and the single lonely Super Bowl championship he brought to “title” town more than a decade ago.

    So here’s a little dose of reality for all those Cheeseheads who stood on the tarmac at Austin Straubel International Sunday night, waiting in vain for Favre’s plane to arrive from 1996.

    Jan. 20, 2002
    The reality: The Packers have a shot to reach the conference championship game for first time since the 1997 season if they beat Rams in the divisional round.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: The 12-4 Packers were no match for the 14-2 Rams

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: The Rams edged out the 11-5 Eagles by just five points in the conference title game and lost to the 11-5 Patriots in the Super Bowl. The Packers easily could have beat the Rams if Favre had not thrown 6 picks – tying the single-game NFL record for postseason picks last matched by a passer back in 1955.

    Jan. 4, 2003
    The reality: The 12-4 Packers were again one of the best teams in football, playing at home against the tepid 9-6-1 Falcons.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: Favre walks on water.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre sinks like a lead weight, reserving one of his worst performances of the year (20 of 42, 47.6%, 247 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 54.4 rating) for when it matters most in a 27-7 loss. It was Green Bay’s lowest offensive output of the season and the franchise’s first-ever home playoff loss.

    Jan. 11, 2004
    The reality: The Packers need to produce just one drive in overtime to beat the Eagles and then battle the Panthers for a chance to go to Super Bowl XXXVIII.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: The Green Bay Favrers defense let Brett down when they surrendered a miracle 4th and 26 completion by Donovan McNabb in the fourth quarter, allowing the Eagles to tie the game.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: On Green Bay’s first play of overtime, Favre promptly tossed a bad pass into the hands of Eagles defender Brian Dawkins. McNabb quickly drove the offense into easy field goal range for the victory. The Favrers defense disappointed Brett by sacking McNabb a mere 8 times, while the Favrers ground game failed to hold up its end of the bargain with just 210 yards and a measly average of 5.7 YPA. Favre passed for 180 yards, one of his lowest outputs of the year.

    Jan. 9, 2005
    The reality: The 10-6 Packers draw a gimme, landing the 8-8 Vikings at home in the wildcard round.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: Favre heals lepers.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre turns out a gruesomely disfiguring playoff performance (22 of 33, 66.7%, 216 yards, 6.5 YPA, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.4 rating), as Packers suffer a humiliating 31-17 loss to one of the worst teams ever to reach the playoffs. Had the Seahawks not lost to the Rams just one day earlier, Favre would have been the first quarterback in history to lose a playoff game to a .500 team.

    The 2005 season
    The reality: The Packers suffer their first losing season in the Favre Era.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: The Packers went 4-12 because Favre had no talent around him.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Eight times in the 2005 season, Favre took the field in the fourth quarter with his team in position to tie or take the lead and a chance for him to play the role of hero. In all eight games, he threw crushing interceptions that killed any hopes for victory. Favre’s 29 picks that year are the most thrown by any quarterback in the past 20 years.

    The 2006 season
    The reality: Packers climb back to respectability with an 8-8 record.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: Favre helped the blind to see.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre had trouble focusing on the field, with a 72.7 passer rating that was among the worst in football that season. The list of quarterbacks with a better rating in 2006 included some of the most widely ridiculed passers in football: David Carr (82.1), Michael Vick (75.7), Alex Smith (74.8) and Rex Grossman (73.9)

    Jan. 20, 2008
    The reality: Packers were favored at home on one of the coldest nights in Lambeau Field history.

    The Cheesehead fantasy: The Packers ran into a buzzsaw and lost to the eventual Super Bowl champs.

    The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre, and the Packers offense, suffered one of the most colossal collapses in history. In the fourth quarter and overtime, Favre completed 4 of 10 passes for 32 yards with 2 INTs. Green Bay’s final four drives, with a Super Bowl appearance easily within their grasp, went for 0, 7, 0 and 2 yards. Favre’s final pick, on the second play of overtime, led directly to the Giants’ game-winning field goal.

    No wonder Cheeseheads continue to cling to 1996 as if it were yesterday: the memories since then are too painful to bear.”

  14. GrandNubian says:

    That’s a great article Origin. Thanks for posting that.

  15. Temple3 says:


    I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I keep saying that the Vikings are going to get exactly what they deserve. Great article. It makes the blind-folded ESPN slurp job on Favre that much more ridiculous. Berman’s got it all over his chin! Yuckeeeeee!!

  16. Matthew Fudge says:

    Temple, I was plannin’ on eatin’, MANNNNN!! LOL

  17. fifth of says:

    The 4-12 season also looks a lot worse for Favre considering his role in getting rid of Javon Walker.

  18. awb says:

    Great article and post Origin. I will print it out and just give it to people who don’t believe me when I say Favre has been terrible for the past 7 years.

    And to whoever compared Elway to Favre. C’mon man.