Friday Fire: Why Are the Perceptions of Donovan McNabb and Steve Nash So Different?

Besides the obvious of course…

They both are great at what they do.  One has two MVP awards that will forever be disputed.

The other none and should at least have one.

One probably has never been booed, the other the second he stepped into the league.

Both are charitable and do all they can for the kids.

One is loved by the press…the other doesn’t give them shit.

Both have suffered injuries off and on throughout their careers.

One is put on a pedestal for what he can’t do, the other slammed for not doing what he can do.

One is great at the pick and roll in the middle of the floor, the other historic at ball security.

One gets props for not having teammates and winning, the other does not.

Both have game weaknesses.

I’ve been on record saying there’s no way Steve Nash should have two MVP awards in a league that has both Kobe Bryant and LeBron James (sentiment is Shaq should have won his first when he left L.A. for Miami).

I’ve also been on record defending (written numerous features) the legacy of Donovan McNabb because it appears his career is absent the respect he definitely deserves.

Both are great dudes and I dig speaking to either one of them.

One is supposedly a sure fire Hall of Famer, while the other seems to be fighting for Canton despite stats that support such an honor.

One is flashy on the floor, the other chill even in the worst times.

The Black quarterback…the White point guard…

Neither has won a championship.

What’s the deal? Speak to me…

Are their respective careers a mirror or are my eyes seein’ funny?

Triple 5 Soul…

Nasty Nash…

67 Responses to “Friday Fire: Why Are the Perceptions of Donovan McNabb and Steve Nash So Different?”

  1. Mizzo says:

    Hercules, Hercules!

    Speaking of Dandridge and Unseld, you’ll hear about them in just a bit when I get this nice Bob McAdoo interview up.

  2. MODI says:

    “What are the implications of media institutions losing their credibility? I think people tend to turn away.”

    temple, people tend to turn away during that time, but over the long haul, nash’s bogus awards will prevail. That’s what those writers did. They secured his legacy 40 years from now.

    A perfect counter example: Albert Belle. Along with Bonds and Griffey he was the fiercest hitter of the 1990s. Yet, today no young kids know who he is just 10 years later. media took his MVP award, his Hall of Fame plaque, and entire legacy as if he never existed.

    I’m less optimistic than you about legacies. What did Citizen Kane say? “They will believe what I tell them to believe!”

  3. Tariq says:


    What a great post.

  4. Temple3 says:


    Forty years from now, children won’t be talking about Steve Nash because he won two MVP awards. I mentioned Petit for a reason. He won the first MVP award and won again three years later — but he didn’t win a title. The guys who won those titles are STILL household names — five decades later. Russell and Cousy are the names that people remember.

    It’s the guys that win it all AND really serve up the competition that become BARBER SHOP guys. Nash is not a barber shop guy. There isn’t a single barber shop in America where patrons are singing his praises — not one…even in Phoenix. No one is saying he’s a scrub, but everyone in that barber shop has seen him get his ass torched for YEARS.

    So, these folks are going to carry the SPOKEN WORD on the game forward and this two-time MVP will be conspicuously absent from the conversation. He will not have a championship ring and he will be relegated to the same dust bin as Bob Petit.

    Legacies are made on the court and carved in the crucible of fire. Steve Nash, for all his skills, isn’t that dude and he never was. He’s very talented, but he’s a side bar conversation.

    In the final analysis, I’m optimistic about this because of guys like you and Mizzo who write to set the record straight. ESPN can’t penetrate the barber shop…neither can David Stern and his bullshit MVP award. Barbers cut heads, not pundits.

    At the end of the day, guys like Mike Bibby and Nick Van Exel (no rings), Sam Cassell and Derek Fisher (multiple rings) will have legacies as great as Steve Nash. They won’t have the media acclaim or the endorsements, but they’ll have it in the hearts and minds of the people that carry this game forward.

    There are some guards I wouldn’t even mention in the same breath (paragraph) with Nash.

    Tiny Archibald, Isiah Thomas, Clyde…For me, they’re two levels up. Payton and Kidd are one level up. I think that’s the conversation that is going to carry the day — today and 40 years from now. Bob Petit is calling from the basketball grave and Nash has a date with destiny.

  5. Temple3 says:

    Thanks, Tariq.

    Mizzo — “You so crazeee!”

  6. MODI says:

    Okay T3, I’ll go along with the Bob Pettit and no rings analogy… and will leave the debate on Derek Fisher’s legacy for another day

  7. Temple3 says:

    LOL. The Fisher King…”A deep three from the corner….It’s goooooooooooooooood.”

  8. HarveyDent says:


    Hate to correct you but Pettit and the Hawks won a ‘chip in 1958 in six games over the Celtics.

  9. Temple3 says:

    Thanks. Always welcome correction. Gotta find a new guy that the NBA has forgotten about.

  10. Ron Glover says:

    Walter Davis, Marques Johnson, Sidney Moncrief, Alex English, John Drew…

  11. GrandNubian says:

    AD = Adrian Dantley. 🙂

  12. Temple3 says:

    #6 All-Time in made free throws, ahead of Kareem and lots of other HOF’ers. AD, as in ALL DAY.

  13. MODI says:

    As I have mentioned many times before, this “forgotten” discussion starts with Bernard King

  14. Temple3 says:

    What does NASH actually DO?

    I’m scratching my head trying to figure it out. After two games vs. the Lakers, I’m really trying to figure out his VALUE. It seems to me that if the Lakers can score 129 without a true point guard, Phoenix could go about as well by substituting Nash for a player who can actually defend someone, anyone sometime, anytime, somewhere, anywhere during a game.

    24 points in 2 games vs. D. Fisher. 28 assists are okay, but clearly having very little impact on the outcome. The back up guy moves the ball about as well.

    Should Nash be leading the second unit?

  15. Mizzo says:

    America is now seeing firsthand what we’ve been saying a long time about Nash. It’s crazy how many hopes and dreams are now lined with depressing night terrors.

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