Notes from TNT’s Exclusive Coverage of the NBA Western Conference Finals – Saturday, May 29, 2010: Kobe 37 Points Dusts Off Another One

(AP/Chris Carlson)

Flyin as if to say, get all that regular season shine…it’s a crime…but the playoffs are mine…

Fans will be subject to losing total speaking capabilities. His shots will cause quick twitches leading to silence on twitter and facebook from those of Kobe hater lore.

Kobe Bryant is simply sidiculous.

For those who need to know, Saturday night’s performance is the difference between Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash. I can’t believe there was actually comparisons being made on any level in the aforementioned regard. What the hell are you smokin’? Pass it to the left…I don’t want that fa sho.

The last two shots will be included on his career highlight reel. What makes the last shot classic is that Grant Hill played perfect defense and it still dropped bottom.

No daggers, just BOMBS.

Those shots were for all the clowns who somehow forgot just how bad Kobe is and will continue to be.

I feel sorry for the Celtics…

NBA TV’s coverage of the NBA Finals will begin on Thursday, June 3 with extensive studio coverage throughout the series.

TNT’s NBA Tip-Off presented by

Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller and Kenny Smith

Lakers guard Derek Fisher on forward Ron Artest: “You learn after you’ve been in this game long enough that that’s just how it is. You have to be tough enough mentally to live with the consequences of your decisions and your actions even if sometimes they don’t work out the best way. And have the mental toughness and the confidence to come back and be prepared to have the ball in your hands again and make that shot that maybe you just missed.”

Smith on Lakers forward Ron Artest’s great effort to help win Game #5: “Ron Artest is always going to miss shots, he’s always going to make some (bad) plays, but you will never fault his effort, his effort is what won that game. He continues to do what he does well, a lot of guys put their head between their legs when they don’t make the shots that they want, but he said, ‘I’m an effort guy and here’s an effort play.’ And what I love most is he didn’t assume that Superman (Kobe Bryant) was going to save the day. He assumed that Superman would get kryptonite and he’d be the one take the kryptonite away and be the one to help Superman save the day.”

Barkley on Phil Jackson having a championship pedigree due to coaching the best players in the NBA: “Phil Jackson wins because he’s got the best players. He didn’t win the year when he had Gary Payton and Karl Malone with  Kobe (Bryant) and Shaq (O’Neal). People talk about all the championships, all those great Celtics teams, they had like 10 Hall of Famers. The Bulls had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, the Rockets had Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler, it’s about having the best players.”

Barkley on Celtics guard Nate Robinson: “I want to give a shout out to Nate Robinson. I heard those guys tell me he’s been going in there two hours before the game and working hard. That’s a pro move, when you’re not getting to play and when you finally get your number called you go out and play. Shout out to Nate.”

Barkley on the key to Game #6: “I think it’s a star game. Amar’e Stoudemire and Steve Nash are going to have to set the tone. That bench is going to have to follow, get Jason Richardson and all those guys involved. But Amar’e or Steve or both have to put their imprint on the game. They have to get this crowd going because they cannot play from behind.”

Smith on why he thinks the Phoenix Suns will win Game #6: “I think tonight is (the Suns’) night to win. They are not flustered by being down 18 points in Los Angeles, they are not flustered by being up, this is the night that they come out and win this game and force a Game #7. They have a lot of confidence after a loss. There are not a lot of times I would say that, but I think they have so much confidence after a loss.”

Miller on Game #6 being critical for the Lakers to win: “I think tonight is the night the Lakers’ bench may travel. They played great at home with three games and three wins, but they have not traveled. I think tonight they get production from all those guys. The Lakers close the series out tonight. But if they lose tonight, Phoenix wins the series in seven.”

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L.A. Lakers (111) @ Phoenix Suns (103) – The Lakers won the series 4-2 to advance to the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics.

Announcers: Marv Albert and Doug Collins with Craig Sager reporting

Collins on Lakers center Andrew Bynum starting the game off playing well: “Andrew Bynum is much more active tonight. He and Robin Lopez both played very poorly the other night in Game #5. He’s gone to work here early tonight and is much more aggressive. This is not a good sign for the Phoenix Suns.”

TNT’s Craig Sager interviewed Lakers coach Phil Jackson after the first quarter.

Jackson on his assessment of the first quarter: “It’s pretty ragged out here, it’s pretty ragged. It’s two very excitable teams, excitable refs I think, too. We’ve got a lot of guys in foul trouble, a lot of foul shots, but so far it’s a pretty exciting game.”

Jackson on Lakers guard Kobe Bryant: “(Kobe Bryant) has been indecisive a couple of times, but he’s got that aggressive look in him.”

Collins on the Suns’ bench having synergy: “(Synergy) is a word that means the sum of the parts is greater together than they are individually and this second unit counts on each other. By themselves, they aren’t great players, but you put them together and they all bring something unique. Alvin (Gentry) has found a nice blend with that bench this year and deserves a lot of credit for developing that bench and then using them in the playoffs. A lot of coaches go away from the bench in the playoffs, they stop trusting them.”

Collins on a long three-pointer by Lakers guard Kobe Bryant late in the second quarter: “That’s unguardable, I mean he was eight feet behind the three point line. That was ridiculously long.”

Collins on why the Suns were outscored in the second quarter: “The Suns are not getting any defensive stops and they can’t get out and run. When they are not running and getting (shots) early in the clock it’s going to cause a lot of problems.”

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Johnson, Barkley, Miller and Smith

Smith on why the Lakers are beating the Suns: “Hustle plays, sometimes (Ron Artest) doesn’t make shots but he never has a lack of effort. To me, he got the Lakers to where they are. They are outhustling and outefforting (the Suns).”

Miller on the Suns playing from a deficit: “The Suns needed to play from ahead, but they are playing uphill. Even though both teams are shooting well from three point distance, that was supposed to be one of the strengths of the Phoenix Suns, but the Lakers are shooting 8 of 14 and they are getting looks from beyond the arc anywhere they want. It’s going to be tough for Phoenix, even with this crowd, if they are always crawling uphill and playing from behind. Kobe has that look in his eyes that he wants to close this series out.”

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Collins on the Lakers’ defense against Suns forward Amar’e Stoudemire: “The Lakers have frustrated him. They’ve had (Pau) Gasol on him, they’ve had (Andrew) Bynum on him. They’ve run a secondary defender to take away his four lanes to the rim so he’s become a jump shooter and really has not been effective.”

Collins on the Suns’ ability to shoot the three being similar to a knock out punch: “When you play a team who can shoot the three, it’s like the boxer who has the knock out punch who can be beat the whole fight and hit you with one good shot and knock you out. The Suns have that capability with their shooting.”

TNT’s Craig Sager interviewed Suns coach Alvin Gentry.

Gentry on Lakers forward Ron Artest making shots: “(Ron Artest) has made shots, we’ve put hands in his face. You can either have Kobe shooting them or Ron Artest shooting them, we choose to have Ron shooting them.”

Collins on Suns guard Goran Dragic: “How about (Goran) Dragic? He is fearless, his speed has changed this game.”

Collins on the flagrant foul committed by Lakers guard Sasha Vujacic against Suns guard Goran Dragic: “That was a great Hollywood flop by Dragic, but there was no question he got hit (by Vujacic). He did a great job selling that.  You know, something like this can turn the game around. The Lakers had the crowd quiet, and the last thing you want to do is juice this crowd up. You know how this bench can play. I’m sure Phil Jackson is going to talk to his team about maintaining composure. Vujacic has got to be smarter than that.”

Collins on Lakers guard Sasha Vujacic: “Sasha Vujacic, he’s going to be on a commercial flight home. They’re not going to let him on the plane, he made it awfully tough on his teammates here today.”

Collins on the perseverance of the Phoenix Suns: “Valiant effort, the last two games were indicative of who the Phoenix Suns have been all season long. A 54-win team, Alvin Gentry has done an amazing job here. Down 18 (points) on the road the other night, battled back, down 18 (points) here today and getting it back to within three. There was no quit in this Suns teams.”

TNT’s Craig Sager interviewed Lakers guard Kobe Bryant.

Bryant on facing the Boston Celtics in the NBA Finals: “We’ll see how much we’ve matured. They challenged us in the finals a couple of years ago, now this is a test to see how much we’ve grown.”

Bryant on his reaction to Lakers guard Sasah Vujacic’s flagrant foul in the fourth quarter: “I was going to kill him.”

Sager: “What do you say to him now?”

Bryant: “I’m still going to kill him. I’m just kidding, of course.”

Collins on what he expects to see in the NBA Finals between the Celtics and Lakers: “Competitive, intense, two terrific defensive teams. It’s going to be grind it out games. Every possession, every basket is going to be earned. Some great matchups…I really look forward to it.”

Collins on being the new head coach of the Philadelphia 76ers: “I can’t wait, going back to Philadelphia and being a part of that organization, one of the proud organizations in the NBA. I’m hoping to get them relevant soon and be back in the playoffs. Hopefully TNT will come in and do one of our games. Full access to TNT!”

Albert: “Are you recruiting?”

Collins: “I am recruiting. Come on (Turner Sports president) David Levy, get us on!”

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Inside the NBA presented by Hyundai

Johnson, Barkley, Miller and Smith

Miller on Lakers guard Kobe Bryant making shots that only Michael Jordan could make: “The Lakers were resilient, they came in with the size, the length and, really, the Suns chopped them down a little bit. But Kobe Bryant showed tonight that he is truly the best player, best closer. I had a chance to play against him and Michael Jordan, there’s only one other guy who can make those shots and he’s retired right now doing Hanes commercials. Bad Hanes commercials, I might add.”

Barkley on the shots made by Lakers guard Kobe Bryant: “That is greatness, there is no other word for it. All those shots had great defense, but you can’t stop greatness.”

Smith on Lakers guard Kobe Bryant being the best closer: “That’s why (Kobe Bryant) is the Mariano Rivera of basketball, he’s the best closer in the game and usually that signifies you’re the best player in the game. With two minutes to go in the game he knows what to do, he understands clock maintenance.”

TNT’s Craig Sager interviewed Suns coach Alvin Gentry after the Suns loss to the Lakers.

Gentry on playing against the Los Angeles Lakers: “Was that Kobe (Bryant) or was that Michael (Jordan)? I couldn’t tell. That was a great performance, we did everything we possibly could. I thought we played great defense on him, I think he single handedly got them over the hump. I thought we did a great job on everyone else. Obviously, (Ron) Artest had a great game, a great first half, he shot the ball extremely well. I thought we did a good job defensively in the second half, but we couldn’t quite get over the hump. When you’re down 18 (points) it’s really tough to come back, everything would have to work perfectly to get over the hump against that team. I appreciate the way we played and the effort that we played with, we just played a team that’s the world champs and we played the best player in basketball. I don’t think it’s even close.”

Gentry on whether he expects Suns forward Amar’e Stoudemire back next season: “We would hope so, I hope so. I think that (Amar’e Stoudemire) enjoys playing here, we’ll have to see how that works out, but I’d like to have the whole team back. We’ve got great chemistry on this team, everyone gets along great. Obviously we need him, he’s an integral part of what we’re trying to do. The rumors of Steve Nash taking a step back and getting slower, I think you can see that that’s not the case. Grant Hill had a great year and then our bench has played well. We like our team, if we could, we’d like to bring them back intact, but that is something that will be dealt with when the time comes.”

L.A. Lakers guard Derek Fisher joined the TNT set after the Lakers defeated the Suns.

Fisher on the similarities between guards Steve Nash and John Stockton: “It reminds me of playing against John Stockton early in my career. Where you had a guy who shot the ball well, passed the ball well, read the defense well, if you made one mistake he was great enough to take advantage of it. It’s exhausting because you can’t relax and that’s how it is playing against Steve (Nash), he can do anything, (anything) that you’re trying to take away, he has a reaction for it. It’s unfortunate in sports that someone has to win because this was a great series and I feel bad for guys who didn’t get the opportunity, but obviously we played hard, we wanted to win.”

Fisher on the lasting effect of losing to a team in the NBA Finals: “Anytime you lose in the Finals, you never forget it. I’m still angry over losing to the Pistons, I can’t stand to hear anyone say ‘DETROIT BAKETBALL.’ I hate that, still to this day. Playing against the Celtics now in the Finals, a lot of the emotions and things will come up from playing them a couple of years ago, but at the same time we have to realize that this is a different series and we have to go out and make sure that what we want to happen happens.”

Barkley on Suns guard Steve Nash: “That guy represents everything good about the NBA.”

LA Lakers
Player Pos Min FGM-FGA FTM-FTA 3M-3A +/- OR Reb A Blk Stl TO PF Pts
R. Artest F 40:49 10-16 1-2 4-7 +2 2 4 2 0 3 0 1 25
P. Gasol F 41:13 2-9 5-6 0-0 +1 3 7 2 1 0 2 5 9
A. Bynum C 19:48 3-5 4-5 0-0 +3 2 6 0 2 0 1 4 10
K. Bryant G 40:58 12-25 10-11 3-8 +19 2 6 2 0 2 2 1 37
D. Fisher G 30:43 4-9 3-3 0-4 -1 0 2 3 0 0 1 4 11
L. Odom 34:59 3-12 0-1 0-0 +12 5 12 3 0 1 1 4 6
J. Farmar 16:44 3-4 0-0 2-3 +6 0 2 5 0 0 0 2 8
S. Vujacic 10:57 2-3 0-0 1-2 +1 0 1 0 0 0 2 2 5
S. Brown 3:49 0-0 0-0 0-0 -3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
A. Morrison DNP — INACTIVE
Totals 240 39-83






14 41 18 3 6 9 23 111
Player Pos Min FGM-FGA FTM-FTA 3M-3A +/- OR Reb A Blk Stl TO PF Pts
A. Stoudemire F 43:17 7-20 13-15 0-1 -8 2 4 0 2 3 3 4 27
G. Hill F 22:25 2-7 1-1 1-2 -5 1 3 3 1 0 0 5 6
R. Lopez C 7:56 0-1 0-0 0-0 -8 1 1 0 0 0 1 3 0
S. Nash G 30:20 8-11 3-3 2-5 -12 0 5 9 0 0 2 2 21
J. Richardson G 29:01 3-7 5-6 2-6 -14 1 1 0 0 0 1 2 13
C. Frye 40:04 5-7 0-0 2-4 0 2 13 1 1 0 1 3 12
J. Dudley 25:35 1-3 0-0 1-2 -3 0 2 2 2 1 1 0 3
L. Barbosa 18:59 3-9 0-0 1-3 +6 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 7
G. Dragic 17:40 5-9 2-2 0-3 +4 1 2 2 0 0 2 0 12
L. Amundson 4:43 1-1 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Totals 240 35-75






8 31 19 6 4 11 19 103
Officials: Scott Foster, Bill Kennedy, Greg Willard

Attendance: 18,422

Time of Game: 2:49

23 Responses to “Notes from TNT’s Exclusive Coverage of the NBA Western Conference Finals – Saturday, May 29, 2010: Kobe 37 Points Dusts Off Another One”

  1. mapoui says:

    this is great..Boston and the Celtics…both palying well. I look forward.

    this has been a very enjoyable playoff season. the most outstanding personality and a revelation to me is the emergence of Alvin Gentry.

    what a personality, a true father figure, skillful, patient, calm, intelliently gregarious…an example of the all that is sound and true in blac’ people.

    and Doc Rivers is not far behind either, a wonderful coach, a man who has clearly benefittd positively from all his experience in life.

    Danny Ainge is another personality in the mix I admire greatly, a tough guy, Irish, the perfect fit for Boston chief executive…which I knew from the minute of his appointment. I could tell Bposton had done the right thing and anothe period of Celtic greatness had begun because of it.

    I also like Phil jacksons cool…cool as cool can be on the bench. Jackson calmly pulls the right strings, says accurate things, has the absolute confidence of his team…just great.

    it seems all just came together to produce two great division finals. Stein must be chortling gleefully in his soup at abut this time.

    and the players out on he court..’Superman’ flawlessly determined, Paul Pierce, the heart of a champion, Ray Allen and his mother in the stands, the manful Jameer Nelson, Steve Nash a tough, relentless son of a gun..Ron Ron, perseverance personified and resilience itself…..

    I have not been so satisfied and happy with basketball since Lenny Wilkens coached the Sonics with Jack Sikma, Dennis Johnson and downtown Freddie Brown..and fought for two years straight with the Bullets, Wes Unseld and the first Truth..according to Denzil and Spike.

    and to top it all of the debate-analysis here on starting five. let me pinch myself. is it real? no wonder I have been feeling so good lately

  2. KevDog says:

    Kobe was just ridiculous. I mean, that shit was AMZING.

    I don’t feel sorry for the Celtics. They layed one on us in 2008. Humiliated us. I’m looking to returning the favor.

    And BTW, anyone who still questions who is the best player in the game needs to be on a legal hold.

  3. Kwami says:

    And who exactly has been comparing the prowess of Steve Nash and Kobe Bryant? Just more false rhetoric by Mizzo about Nash, I suspect. What exactly is behind your transparent hatred for the guy? Because he’s a white player in the NBA? If Steve Nash were black, would you harbor such hatred for him? Don’t bother, we know the answer…

  4. Mizzo says:

    OK “Kwami” you get one reply.

    He’s the only MVP to not make a Finals and the only two time winner to not win a championship. He plays in a league with the best player since Michael Jordan and has more MVP trophies? Kobe Bryant averages 35, 5 and 5 the year he averages 15 and 12 and Nash wins the award? Shaq goes to Miami, wins a championship the year Nash again loses in the Conference Finals and nothing for Shaq (23, 10, 2 blocks) but Nash wins his second MVP averaging 18 and 10?

    How can this be?

    The two worse statistical years ever for a MVP winner.

    Where are Jason Kidd’s MVP trophies for the two years his teams came out of the Eastern Conference or Gary Payton’s for the years his teams came out of the West?

    Both of those players played a well rounded game, yet they weren’t lauded. How many all defensive teams do they have combined? How many assists, rebounds, triple doubles?

    Gary Payton was a very underrated shooter and a player so deft on defense he guarded Michael Jordan?

    What has Nash done? What has he won? Where are his memorable playoff performances? Where are his clutch wins?

    Where is his defense?

    When a player wins one MVP…let alone two…it states he is over and beyond the best player in the league that season. No dice with Nash. There were so many players having comparable and much better seasons yet he still pulls off two?

    Nash was never a better nor a more valuable basketball player than Kobe Bryant any day in his life yet he’s more decorated with individual awards by a media who says it’s all about team?

    Saturday night I give you exhibit A regarding who the true NBA MVP is every year. I don’t care who wins what, the one thing we all know is that a Kobe Bryant led team will be in the Finals.

    I’m a Sixers fan. Why would I defend a Los Angeles Lakers player if this was about blind hatred?

    Get past race and check the facts on the table.

    The 50/40/90 stat thrown around to validate his career is also a bogus stat template.

    Ray Allen has been close to this stat (under for shooting percentage) for his career and also has put the ball up 6,000 more times.


    Oh by the way, he has a title and is going for his second. Where are his MVP trophies? He’s been a great player in this league until he joined a team atmosphere in Boston.

    Nash plays in a system built for the regular season. This in a league that changed the defensive rules so point guards could assume ownership of the lane and throw lobs?


    The Suns system is fun and gun and has great entertainment value for those who have short attention spans but there will not be a championship won without a semblance of defense.

    He has limited skills despite being a great shooter and passer (the misnomer is Nash is not athletic when fact he’s very athletic). Isiah Thomas (no MVP trophies) could take over a game. So could Allen Iverson (won 1 MVP) and Nate Archibald (no MVP’s). I bring up these players because of their comparable height. Seems like Nash is lauded for his toughness but that does not an MVP make. There are names he will never surpass in basketball lore yet he has more individual awards than most of them? Please.

    Mark Price and John Stockton would murder Steve Nash on the basketball court. Where are their MVP’s? Check what they did over the course of their careers.

    Why is he the third MVP at the point guard position and why did the voters all of the sudden consider point guards for the award? What about Jason Kidd’s 105 triple doubles?

    Gary Payton is the only pg to win a Defensive Player of the Year award and is probably regarded as the best all around player at the position which includes Magic Johnson, Walt Frazier and Oscar Robertson.

    He was a nine time all defensive first team player. A record he shares with Michael Jordan.

    Who are the aforementioned players compared to and who is Nash compared to during the season? Why is he given credit for his limitations?

    Seems Nash would rather kick around a soccer ball than play both sides on a basketball court. Why is his defense not mentioned with all the slobber applied to his lack of winning anything substantive?

    Great player for his era but he has done nothing to merit Hall of Fame status outside of two awards that validate voters pandering to a demography looking for a hero.

  5. Temple3 says:

    You know it’s a white dude wearing a mask when he spells Kwami with an ‘i’ — revealing his so-called Indo-European roots (as in “Swami.”)

    Two different words, two different endings and pronounciations — but one common fraud. His “real name” is probably Sam or Bob or Tuck.

    You really get them all around here. Kwami — with an ‘i’ — Hilarious.

  6. Temple3 says:

    Mizzo —

    Sometimes, you’re too nice. But I love the detail. Two mo’ tidbits.

    1) That 50-40-90 stat is great. Nash has never done it in the post-season. I am impressed that he’s done it at all. It’s amazing — but it’s also a function of getting uncontested shots based on the aggressive interior game of Amar’e Stoudemire. That’s why Nash never did that in Dallas. The perimeter was crowded.

    All of this RECENT VINTAGE stuff is about the differences between Dirk’s perimeter game and Amar’e’s interior game. That’s really all this is about.

    2) I’ve racked my brains trying to figure out what the hell that guy does during the playoffs. I’ve still come up with NADA! 16 games this post-season: 1 block, 4 steals, 6 offensive rebounds. No FLOOR GAME.

  7. mapoui says:

    “Great player for his era but he has done nothing to merit Hall of Fame status outside of two awards that validate voters pandering to a demography looking for a hero.”

    Great work Mizzo! had I any thoughts to the contrary they are all dispelled now!

  8. Kwami says:

    “Great player for his era but he has done nothing to merit Hall of Fame status outside of two awards that validate voters pandering to a demography looking for a hero.”

    Pandering to a demography looking for a hero? Sounds exactly like one of those black history month shows that mentions Albert Einstein and George Washington Carver in the same breath. White folks need a b-ball hero, black folks need to believe black scientists can even sniff the jocks of their Euro counterparts. I ask you, what’s the difference?

  9. KevDog says:


    All cultures have their strengths and weaknesses and their traditions. The Jewish culture is grounded in intellectualism for it’s sake. Einstein is not surprising.

    But I’ll put Toni Morrison against any writer who has ever lived not names Shakespeare. And Ralph Ellsion there with any of the others.

    Black jazz musicians are the greatest musicians the world has ever seen easily.

    Our social movement leaders and people like MLK, Frederick Douglass, Charles Houston and Thurgood Marshall stand with any political/social leaders in History

    And we have the greatest basketball players of all time. In fact, of the top 20 basketball players of all time, only one is white. And his name damn sure ain’t Nash.

    Even Nash knows the truth about him v. Kobe Bryant.

    Q. From a shooter’s standpoint, rate that last shot that Kobe made, and the two before that?
    STEVE NASH: I’m not sure those are shooter’s shots. Those are scorer’s, best player-in-the-game-type shots. You know, he is incredibly skilled, talented. He’s a great competitor, clutch. What can you say? He deserves an incredible amount of praise for his ability.

    Now seriously “Kwami,” move on before the beatdown becomes severe.

  10. mapoui says:

    this man has balls to talk about euro scientists!

    ok I give them part of the day…only becuase they have forcefully monopolised the area and locked all others out.

    Indians and chinese are are on their way now, and are already cmparable to the west scientifically.

    africa set the stage scientifically. we have not corrected our defeat and things arent juicy. but those of us who get through are better already than their euro counterparts.

    I wonder if Kwame ever heard of Dr Stephane Gift, a westindian of African descent responsible for the discovery of the fifth law of calculous…the only such mathematical discovery in the english speaking world?

    Gift and others merely presage what can come once the African shift is righted.

    there is no need for excuse and explanation on the instigation of such as Kwam -I. we have to get past him, past racism to our position as the root of humanity. all came from us so that we are all.

    and in doing so we must reset the global social basis for civilization, that kwame-i euros horrifically disturbed these past 500 years… to a collective non-racial , peaceful and propserous movement.

    kwame-i should take a look at his euro scientific heros observe what their work has rsulted in all during the 500 years in question. we should mae a list of the horros the human species has experienced from scientific activity, precisely because euros became dominant.

    I remember one conversation on an episode of a very nice english television series called Foyles War. in which a mustard gas attack on english troops was discussed.

    that show is good televion as the english often make. Kwam-i should take a look as he contemplates the Israeli arsenal, a result of euro science, scientific racism and euro racist impperialism… poised to eliminate the human species as we speak… a logical outcome of european movenment since 1450.

    where are the euro hero scientists then that satisfies Kwame-i as heros?

    kwam-i may look to the politicians and ‘statesmen’ then! what about winston churchill or tony blair, or angela merkel and sarkozy currently…

    we have to clean up the whole damm euro made mess! its just that we taking way too long

  11. Mizzo says:

    Mapoui, it’s an age old rebuttal on this site. We’ve seen it so many times before. The misnomer about this site is that we do not recognize great exploits of other races…we just want to be certain adulation of all is right and exact.

  12. Kwami says:

    Here’s some advice Mizzo – if you’re going to talk about calculus, first learn how to spell it.

  13. mapoui says:

    this is a very decent site as far as general even-handedness goes!

    I remember having a long chat here with Origins was it? who supports the pac man over our Mayweather.

    I suspect Origin is african american yet he is in Pac Mans corner.

    he has seen enough he believes to justify his faith in Pacmans abilites as a great fighter.

    I tend to be biased towards the philipino for I have seen and been very unhappy with Phiipino racism over the years.

    I am sure Origins is aware of what I call Philipin racism, but is fair enough to consider Pacman on his merit

    you got my message kwam-i! thats all important. the point of the communication has been satisifed.

    and yu had enough time to check wicky waky on calculous/calculus anyway.

    glad for you..that you knew which one to choose

  14. Temple3 says:

    I’m almost speechless — but not quite.

    KevDog: Don’t go around conceding science arguments to this nitwits. Einstein and his people are more Eastern European than anything else and their claims to the antiquity of their chosen faith are spurious at best. Some day, some brilliant so-called “white” scientist will explain how an African people like the Lemba have the genes and traditions of biblical Hebrews unvarnished by the cultural touches of Europe — like Yiddish (an Indo-European language, quite unlike Hebrew, an African language).

    People who speak with forked tongues have to speak in some language. Some day, one of their own will convince them of the extent to which this alpha-beta/script/ and the like were largely derived from the Nile Valley.

    That time is a long way off, but the fact of the matter is that Einstein is a Johnny Come Lately to the conversation on relativity. His formula is brilliant in its simplicity, but the notion of our relative place in time and space was beautifully scripted, painted and narrated over two millennia ago in the Book of Coming Forth by Day and Night.

    It all comes around:

    One has to realize that Hippocrates himself, in what is called the Hippocratic Oath, wrote that he had a god named Escalipius, the Greek name for the God Imhotep. Imhotep had died 2500 years before the birth of Hippocrates. Imhotep is the first known multigenius other than the one you call Michelangelo. We don’t have Michelangelo until 1609 and he is not known until he does the work of Pope Julius II, who commissioned Michelangelo to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Michelangelo used his cousin and other relatives as models for some of the biblical characters that he painted. The basis of engineering was created by Imhotep. He created the first stone structure; that building still stands in a place called Sakkara, about less than an hour north-west of what is today called Cairo. And here you will see the Grand Lodge of Djoser at Sakkara. That modern structure was built in the Third Dynasty, since Djoser was the third pharaoh of the Third Dynasty. Imhotep was the man who gave us the little quip, “eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall die.”

    You are possessed of a great legacy that certainly transcends the white supremacist conception of “race.” And you live that cultural connection in a profoundly Jazzy way…so — please, no more concessions in the realm of science.

    I wonder if Kwami knows Nash is an African, too. ROTFLMBAO!!!

  15. KevDog says:

    Brother T3.

    I concede your point. I have not been exposed to that which you have. But even if I concede Einstein, and I have no problems conceding his brilliance. I know that Dr. Ben Carson is probably the most preeminent physician in the World Today. We ARE fultifaceted. That “Kwami,” is pathetic enough to come here and make a fool of himself with the standard WhiteBoyfakesbackthang just shows his insecurity and general mediocrity.

  16. Mizzo says:

    LOL what is this dude talking about? Fellas…how many times have we encountered those of his ilk? Remember Friedman? This cat actually reminds me of Friedman…hmmm. Same prose, rebuttals…down the the ——————separator.

    There must be some type of troll template that has ancient miles on the Internet. Kudos to “kwami” for doing his homework. ::slow clap::

  17. mapoui says:

    I was hoping this lil rumble would raise Temple3…the man!

    tremendous! always a pleasure to read T3!

  18. mapoui says:

    and please forgive my typing guys. I never could well enough! I have 10 thumbs but struggle anyway

  19. KevDog says:

    I gotta say. This is my favorite Kobe commercial ever…..

  20. Origin says:

    Brotha Maqui that wasn’t me discussing Pacman with you. I am far from a boxing aficionado because I watch so little boxing. Often times when the subject comes up I just read you guys comments. I rarely if ever chat on the subject.

    Oh and I do know of Filipian racism. In grade school I was friends with a couple of filipino girls at my school. Well often times as kids we would all walk together from school to make sure we were all safe. Anyway the girls would tell all the black kids that once we got a block away from her house that we had to cross the street and walk on the other side. Because they didn’t want there parents to know that she was walking with black kids. The reason was that there parents hated black people.

    And check this out there parents would tell the girls that they couldn’t go outside at certain times in the summer because they would get yoo dark.

    Anyway good to see you brothas handle the little troll kwami. And as always you brothas drop knowledge will kicking Kwami in the butt.

    Mizzo you need to stop……… you know every time you bring up nash name and question his MVPs the trolls start a coming…..LOL!!!

  21. Origin says:

    Just for you Kevdog.

  22. mapoui says:

    I got a lil mixed up there Origin! I will go back and check to see who it was I had that chat going.

    I dont understand why I cant remember who it was. I had to check out for a couple of days so I could not continue.

    and talking wbout the sun. I cant get enough now that the good weather is back so early. I had been tardy in recent years, too sun shy and I paid for for it.

    let me tell you that vitamin D from the original source is unbeatable for feeling good in the body. yu got to be out in it getting a share…. playing, walking running, fishing….

    and pass on the sunscreens! those are the problem, not the sun!

    let them all stay inside to be as white as they want. we all know the results of that in quick enough time!