Michael Vick Named As The Eagles Starting QB – And The Church Says…Amen

In a shocking development Andy Reid has named Michael Vick as the Eagles starting quarterback Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars and for the forseeable future.

Sooooooo many people said that this opportunity would never come to him again, that guys like him didn’t deserve a second chance and any team that took him on was taking up a roster space for someone that really deserved it.

And that was only in Philadelphia. Regardless, Michael Vick has come full circle and the Eagles are a better team for it.

Let’s look at why this works for the Eagles and why it may not.

Why Vick?

1. Kevin Kolb’s lack of mobility coupled with the play of a porus offensive line was going to have him on the trainers bench again. Vick himself was sacked six times on Sunday, imagine if it were Kolb out there. Center Mike McGlynn was terrible at recognition and protection against the Lions blitz packages and that play trickled down the offensive line. Had Kolb taken some of the shots Vick took on Sunday, we might be talking about more time on the injured list or worse.

2. Kolb’s playing with advanced weapons – by that I mean DeSean Jackson and Brent Celek are Pro Bowlers, Jeremy Maclin and LaSean McCoy are looking at potential breakout seasons, Kevin Kolb doesn’t display the skills needed to avoid the blitz to get the ball downfield at this time. I don’t mean scrambling out of the pocket, just movement in it to avoid the rush, thus you’re going to see alot of shorter routes that only stunt the growth of these potential stars.

3. The NFC East is for the taking right now and there is no reason to play around with that. The Giants and Redskins are each 1-1 and coming off losses while the Cowboys are 0-2 and still trying to find themselves in the midst of a tough stretch early in their schedule. The Eagles face Jacksonville, Washington, San Francisco and Atlanta – all winnable games. You have to ride the hot hand in this case.

4. When Vick came to the Eagles, it was Reid’s goal to make Reid a pocket passer without stifling his rushing ability. Vick’s committment to think pass first is paying huge dividends. On Sunday, Vick was 21-34 for 284 yards and two touchdowns. His numbers for the season; 37-58 for 459 yards, 3 touchdowns and a passer rating of 105.5. Sunday Vick rushed 7 times for 37 yards, he was able to get off several passes in the face of a heavy pressure.  After the Green Bay game we knew that Vick’s legs were back and his ability to outrun opposing defenses had returned. This week we saw how useful Vick’s legs are IN the pocket. Although Vick is 31, his legs are probably that of a 28 year-old due to inactivity with little wear and tear.

5. It’s possible that in the first half of the Green Bay game Reid saw his career flash before his eyes. If Kolb’s performance was any indication of how the season was going to turn out, he was going to be home by Thanksgiving – or sooner. Although Reid has a 3-year extension in his hip pocket that isn’t guaranteed (like everything else in the NFL) when you have an unproven starter deemed as the franchise quarterback and a more than capable backup who gives the team a better chance of winning. It would be almost comical for Reid to trade Donovan McNabb only to have an unprepared Kevin Kolb cost him his job. McNabb knew his days in Philly were numbered his lobbying to Reid for Vick may have eventually bought Reid more time than he would’ve had if say Mike Kafka was the third string quarterback. Vick was the ace that Reid held onto and it may pay off in a big way.

Why Not Vick?

1. There is always the possibility of Vick being tempted to going back to minimizing his reads or just trying to do too much with his legs. I believe that he’s bought into the think-pass-first theory – but there will be times when he will want to run and will pass and vice-versa. Case in point – in the Green Bay game where Vick chose to pass over running in what would’ve brou ght the Eagles to within three points instead the pass went incomplete.Vick cannot allow himself to become confused in those situations.

2. If you think Andy Reid is being second-guessed now just wait until the first time Vick struggles (and he will) what will be his stance on that because you have essentially lost Kolb – possibly for good. You’re in deep with Vick now and if Reid can deal with survive the T.O. circus, the well-publicized issues with his own children, the firestorm when Vick was brought here and finally the McNabb trade – Reid can handle if this backfires. Trust me, he’s thought this scenario through, if coaching in Philadelphia has done anything for Reid it’s given him thick skin and if this goes to the left he’ll take in his words, “full responsibility”.

3. Kevin Kolb’s confidence is shattered right now and understandably so – the best thing for Kolb to do right now is ride this out, take the $12 million he’ll earn this season and request a trade if he desires. But for now Kolb must acknowledge Vick as the starter as Vick did on Monday prior to Reid’s decision. Now the question is Vick’s future in Philadelphia based on this season’s performance or this an extended audition for a potential trade? Whatever the case, Vick has put himself in position for a major payday. Despite the demotion, Reid says that he still believes in Kolb – just not right now.

I wonder if Kolb feels the same.

59 Responses to “Michael Vick Named As The Eagles Starting QB – And The Church Says…Amen”

  1. HarveyDent says:

    RE: McNabb, Mondesire, and Vick

    Sad as it is to say, McNabb is a ‘victim’ of his own upbringing when it comes to Black folks in Philly and across the NFL watching public in general. Like I’ve said before, Sam and Wilma McNabb raised a man in Donovan and the fact he doesn’t have any deep, dark secrets or public vulnerabilities rubs some of our people the wrong way. It does that because they buy into the fact of Black pathology that we all have something wrong with us and if we don’t then we are phonies.

    I’m always careful not to lionize McNabb or any public figure because when you put someone on a pedestal that’s when they get knocked off it but the guy is not a lovable character because he doesn’t have those personal defects that some Blacks need to have to sympathize or identify with another Black person in the public eye. He has always been that smiling, affable, corny guy and because he doesn’t show any dark edge in public he’s somehow suspect or not what’s considered ‘Black’ enough.

    Vick has always been a sympathetic character in Black America when compared to McNabb because he comes from a background that many of us consider more authentic of the Black experience. He’s from a single parent home in the hood, had a ‘posse’ of guys with shady reputations, didn’t seem to give a damn what the larger public thought, and ran into trouble with the cops. Vick was/is real to those who don’t know better and think that the Black Experience is what they see in rap videos and Hot Ghetto Mess.

    I’m not taking any shots at Vick but just observing what I’ve noticed why some athletes are loved and others not especially in our community. I’ve dealt with that myself when I’ve done things that other Blacks don’t think is what real ‘niggas’ do. I don’t know if it’s a crabs in the barrel mentality or just ignorance but none of us are arbiters of what makes one a real Black person. I have no love for Condi Rice or Colin Powell but I would never say that their experiences as Black people in this country are no less real than what Jesse Jackson or Assata Shakur dealt with. That more than anything else even with a Black president holds us back.

    Sorry for the ramble but just something I’ve seen.

  2. sankofa says:


    Sounds like the talk amongst folks, that if you study and get good grades you acting “white”. Or if you are articulate and don’t smoke ganja and …etc, etc and so forth and so forth. From a psychological level, when you are conditioned to exist on a base level and see your exhistance as base, then any attempt at stepping outside that box is met by fear, hatred and out right attacks.

    The collective image problem and self love have caused us to not only act like the proverbal crabs in the barrel, but to get excited that Barak Obama would make a good president over Cynthia Mckinny who is more politically qualified, that would celebrate hot ghetto mess as more realiistic over the images that Bill Cosby tries to portray in his series.

    Yeah man you aint the only one seeing the inconsistancies.

  3. Origin says:

    Man Harvey I have to agree with everything you said.

    Let me add to the conversation.

    As far as Mondesire he is an opportunist. He is beating a dead horse with Mcnabb……….he is doing nothing more then pandering to the haters in Philly. If he and Mcnabb was in DC he would be slurping on Mcnabb and calling him the best thing since sliced bread.

    See Mondesire knows that Mcnabb has always been hated in Philly so he is pandering his butt off. If you look at Mcnabb and how he carries himself he is everything that the NAACP stands for. So what Mondesire is saying is just hot air and the dude is a fool.

    Now on the segment of black fans that hate on Mcnabb and align themselves with the bigot haters. They are like black teabaggers who hate Obama because of his policy, yet their dumb asses align themselves with the racist who only hate Obama because he happens to be a black president.

    See Harvey this is the problem we as black folks always fall for the okey doke of divide and conquer. Whether it is because of self-hate or just because white folks are meddling………we always fall for it. We have seen it over the last 2 months with the MSM asking every black athlete about Lebron’s decision to leave Cleveland. And what does every black athlete do??? Go at Lebron instead of seeing the big picture.

    Another thing it has always puzzled me how folks could question Mcnabb’s blackness. This is a man that has never ran away from his blackness. Never denied that he was a black QB, never got in trouble, didn’t look like a fool when the MSM put him in front of a camera. Has a black wife (yes I will go there cause we know that it is an issue with some of us when black athletes have a wife or GF who isn’t black) who is a so called regular sista (who I think is beautiful). Has kids by one woman not women everywhere. Smart enough to save his money and is very frugal and is a smart business man. Is tight with his Mom, Dad, sister and brother and has his family at every game. Plus has a Degree……….I mean what more can the dude do.

    Yet with all of this you got some knee grows saying he isn’t a real brother. Thats the dumbest shit in the world.

    Yet these same black folks will shake their head and say how some black athlete embarrass black folks when they get in trouble, have babies everywhere, have a mouth full of gold and can’t talk, spend all their money on cars and gold. Have non black women on their arms and never graduate from college.

    Harvey these folks are just fools and have self-hate issues. They let the media dictate how they think about players. A lot of these fans are just so stupid and brainwashed its just a waste of time talking to them.

    I also believe it could be a generational thing too. There are black QBs now on many teams. So there is no need in some black folks eye to root for them. We already had our rooting James Harris and Doug Williams at the QB position. I really wonder how many black folks were rooting for Mcnabb or Mcnair in the superbowl because they wanted to see a black QB win. I remember when Art Shell was the coach of the Raiders….and every black adult I knew as a kid were rooting for the raiders because of art shell. Even black folks who were fans of the Bears. I guess times have changed.

  4. Origin says:

    Another thing Harvey I thought about with Vick and Mcnabb. I think if Mcnabb didn’t play during the same generation as Vick he would be more loved.

    It reminds me of Kobe vs. AI when they were young. Kobe was the buppie who spoke multiple languages and lived in Europe. He knew how to handle the media. Then you had AI who grew up in the streets and was a rebel. He didn’t care how he was viewed or potrade by the media. AI was more loved then Kobe was.

    I mean remember how AI and Vick would dress to press conferences? They both played flashy and reckless on the court and football field. Actually these dudes were very similar.

    I think the Vick love over Mcnabb is everything you said. But also the way he played and his don’t give a flip demeanor (Even though he was always better teamate and much more coachable then AI), along with his fame and following in college. We forget that the brotha was a number 1 pick. People saw him play Florida state in the championship game and it made him even more popular. Where most folks really never paid attention to mcnabb until he was the 2nd overall pick. But even then folks didn’t expect him to do crap. They thought it was a reach. But Vick was promoted as the next big thing before he was ever drafted.

    Also lets not forget that Vick was in a perfect coccon he was a black QB in a black city. Maybe the most popular city in America when it comes to black folks. He was Black Americas QB playing in Black Americas City.

    It is well known black folks from all around the country would go to falcons games when Vick was there. Especially here in the south I knew black folks who would travel from Alabama, Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana to see Vick play in ATL. So to them Vick was their boy their man. I knew black folks who would see the falcons play on TV and say man I want to go see that game in ATL. Look at all those black folks in the stands having fun watching the game, its like a SWAC game.

    IMO this is one of the reasons Vick didn’t take the indictments serious. He thought his city would save him, protect him from these accusations……because everyone loves Vick.

    See Mcnabb never QBed in a cocoon like this he was a QB in a city with deep racial issues. The City he was in didn’t predominantly look like him. There were no overwhelming paying black customer like in ATL. Who would disappear and leave if he was traded or cut. In Philly very few people loved Mcnabb.

    Harvey I think this plays a big part in it too. Also this was the first time ATL ever had a black QB (well who wasn’t switched to WR). And a city in which the black residents will support their black stars (just like they did with Dominick Wilkins)

    I wonder if you switched where Vick and Mcnabb played would Mcnabb be more loved then vick.

  5. HarveyDent says:

    Good points, gentlemen, and I’m sure Mondesire was only pandering because Philly media probably put a mic in his face. If his opinion was about the way McNabb played the game only then I would have no problem with what he and other Blacks say about him but questioning his realness was and is wrong to me. There are enough Black QB’s and head coaches in the NFL now where we don’t have to root for them just because they’re Black but those of us who are conscious Black folks and sports fans do give these men some respect most times because we know what they’ve dealt with to reach their positions. Tony Dungy was touted as the first Black head coach in the modern NFL since the early 80’s but didn’t become a head coach with the worst team in the NFL until the mid-90’s. Vince Young’s supposed Wonderlic score was leaked not because he beat USC but because he was going to be a Black man playing QB in the NFL differently than Peyton Manning. Romeo Crenel growing old as a Super Bowl winning assistant coach before he got the top job in an organization while Eric Mangini who replaced Crenel and lost a Super Bowl became a head coach after one season.

    If you read and observe you can suss out these links and the inequalities of them to understand that when McNabb said a Black QB [and a Black coach] is judged differently he wasn’t talking out of school. I didn’t become a Cleveland Browns fan because Romeo Crenel coached them or buy a home white Titans jersey because VY plays for them but I did know and appreciate what these men had to go through to reach their positions. The lack of respect for these guys go through physically and otherwise is what sets me off more than anything. You don’t have to like McNabb or Vick but if you’re going to criticize their play on the field to me then come with more than he smiles too much or he killed dogs. We’re progressing as a people but it wasn’t too long ago that Warren Moon had to go to Canada to play QB or Charlie Ward went undrafted by any NFL teams after winning a Heisman and national title and that needs to be remembered when our more ignorant kinfolks say that racism in sports and the larger society is dead.

  6. HarveyDent says:


    I lived in ATL for most of Vick’s career with the Falcons and I will tell you truly that he sent an electric shock through that town and most of the Black South. He made pro football in Atlanta relevant more than the Falcs going to the Super Bowl did but he was only going to be allowed to go so far down there because eventually the white fans were going to come out and that’s who Blank and the FO wanted to cater to. I heard callers on 790 call in about how they felt threatened by the atmosphere at Falcons games because of all the rap music being played. What they felt uncomfortable with was seeing all those dark faces there coming out to root for Vick first and the Falcons second. Vick just like ‘Nique put asses in the seats but said asses were the wrong color because while Arthur Blank and Ted Turner will take Black money if we give it to them they prefer that pristine, snow white money.

    So yeah, we, the Black community, protected Vick and may have even enabled him in some negative ways like his lax practice habits but it was nothing but love. I always have been an Eagles fan, the beginning of this season notwithstanding, but watching Vick play was always must-see television and the thing I always liked about Vick was that he never ran from the love the community gave him down there. If McNabb had played in ATL he would have been loved but not as unreservedly as Vick because he’s not from the South and also, unfortunately, because he didn’t have as much off the field drama. That’s not right but it is true.

  7. Miranda says:

    origin and HD, agree with all of your points. I can honestly say that I realized long ago that the dislike for Mike Vick was a roundabout way for the national media and the local idiots to hate the fact that so many black people were up in that Georgia Dome on Sundays. They hated the FANS, which is why I will never root for the Falcons again…and no I won’t wish them well (even though I know I was raised better than that, but i can’t help it). The little sly comments about the “danger” of the Dome and comments i heard from some of the national media was more than enough to let me know that Mike Vick was feeling some wrath simply because of the color of the faces wearing his jersey and how his presence truly did turn those games into a Bayou Classic on a regular.

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