NFL Questions (And Maybe Some) Answers For Week 13

 

For all intents and purposes the Brett Favre era should’ve ended Sunday – but according to coach Leslie Frazier if Favre can throw, he’s out there. Tavaris Jackson made the most of his time yesterday and continues to show maturity throughout the situation. Peyton Manning is looking more like his kid brother Eli each week. How is the NFL MVP race shaping up? Cam Newton is the number one pick in next April’s NFL Draft – so why isn’t anyone talking about it?

This week I’ll  pose the questions and await your feedback.

What is Leslie Frazier more concerned with: Preserving Brett Favre’s streak, the growth an development of Tavaris Jackson or coaching the Vikings next season and beyond?

Peyton Manning is in the midst of a career-worst slump, yet he maintains that he will continue his style of play. Can his struggles be placed solely on the lack of a running attack or has everyone caught onto Manning?

A week ago Phillip Rivers and Peyton Manning were the frontrunners for the NFL MVP. After miserable outings this week, it looks like the race may come down to Tom Brady and Michael Vick in you ultimate “Good vs. Evil” pairing. Will this re-ignite resentment towards Vick?

Raheem Morris (7-5), Mike Singletary (4-8), Mike Tomlin (9-3), Jim Caldwell (6-6), Leslie Frazier (2-0), Lovie Smith (9-3) and Marvin Lewis (2-10) 39-32 for 55% winning percentage. NFL Coaching Field, 150-157 for 48% winning percentage. Go figure.

It looks like the Heisman fix is in for Auburn’s Cam Newton as Orlando Sentinel columnist Mike Bianchi, Philadelphia-based writer Michael Bradley, Gene Frenette of the Florida Times Union, David Whitley of AOL FanHouse, Kyle Tucker of the Virginian-Pilot and Seth Emerson of the Macon Telegraph have stated that they intentionally left Newton off of their ballots. Why should journalists, particularly those with axes to grind have a vote in such a prestigious award?

 

 

 

 

30 Responses to “NFL Questions (And Maybe Some) Answers For Week 13”

  1. Temple3 says:

    Frazier is concerned with keeping his job THIS SEASON. The ownership feels that if Favre doesn’t start, it will adversely impact ticket sales, ad revenue, and everything else that goes with the game. Frazier doesn’t OWN the team. The money is talking here.

    Brady will win the MVP because he’s played in every game and his team has more impressive wins than the Eagles. If you take either guy off their teams, you might have a mess on your hands.

    Nice work on the winning percentage of NFL Black coaches — and Lewis and Singletary were supposed to be leading excellent teams this season.

    The media voters for all of these so-called “awards” always do the same thing. This week, 93-year old Marvin Miller said that baseball writers decided to write the history of their sport, rather than record it — to the exclusion of labor. Miller did not get the “votes” (as if the process is authentically democratic) required for admission to Cooperstown.

    So it is with the Heisman. Is there a less meaningful award in all of sports? For years, it was awarded to QBs from “great programs” who were incapable of playing pro ball. It doesn’t get awarded to dominant underclassmen. It rarely, if ever, goes to dominant defensive players. It is almost always a 2 position race between QBs and RBs at certain schools. When they have the ceremony, you’ll look around the room and see many of the greatest BUSTS in the history of the NFL. Griffin, Dayne, Rozier, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Rashaan Salaam, Torretta, and so many more. Huck the Feisman.

    It is only a “prestigious” award because of the wide circle of complicity in upholding ignoble traditions. The award itself, has NEVER been about excellence…it has been about tradition and rules. Newton should still make the trip and smile for the cameras. No one needs to know that he knows the process of “voting” for this award is a sham. Silence is golden.

  2. James says:

    Go figure indeed….

    The above coaches (not sure what that grouping is) is actually 39-35 for a 53% winning record. Congrats to them.

    The rest of the NFL coaches are 153-157 for a 49% winning record.

  3. Ron Glover says:

    @James, thanks for the correction.

  4. kos says:

    Leslie Frazier probably doesn’t have a real say in whether Favre starts or not. As an interim head coach, he’s really just auditioning to see if Wilf will keep him on as head coach.

    Peyton Manning is like every other qb. Forget what you hear from the announcers. If he gets hit enough, his timing will be off and he’ll make bad throws. If you look at his last four losses (Eagles, Patriots, Chargers, and Cowboys), each of the teams has been able to generate some pressure on Manning. The running attack has nothing to do with Manning’s struggles. Since the team let Edgerrin James go, for the most part, they’ve struggled with running the ball consistently. I’d look more at the offensive line, and maybe has the rest of the league caught on to Peyton’s arm waving.

    Let me first get this out of the way. I actually heard an announcer say that Matty Ice should be in contention for MVP. Pitting his season versus Vick’s would be the ultimate “Good vs. Evil” pairing that the press wants. Ryan doesn’t belong in the discussion, but considering his team only has two losses, he will be there with Brady and Vick. If it was just Brady vs Vick, I don’t think there would be as much resentment. Drag in Matt Ryan, and it’s definitely a way to flame the resentment.

    Thanks for putting in the winning percentages of the NFL’s black coaches as a whole vs. the field. You’d think that some owners/GM’s/reporters would look at that and think maybe come to a conclusion. But, probably not.

    Awards have been farces for a while. MLB hall of fame is the greatest sham. You have people who won’t vote for folks that are shoo-ins for the Hall because they don’t think anyone should be unanimous, not because of their play.

    The Heisman would probably be the number 2 sham. It rarely goes to the best player. Somewhere along the line (with the rise of ESPN and other sports publications that decided to interject their beliefs), instead of it going to the best player, it was decided that it should go to the best player on a contending team. Often, anyone with eyes could see that this player was a product of their system. (See Florida QB’s who’ve won the award.)

    Those journalists will continue to vote because if you tried to stop the ones with an axe to grind, they’d call foul and many of their colleagues would join them. Then, you’d have them writing articles discrediting the Heisman voting process. That’s about like trying to discredit boxing at this point.

  5. Mizzo says:

    At this point, I seriously doubt Cam plays in the BCS Championship. There will be an all out assault on his eligibility in the coming month as immoral wanna be story breakers scratch and maul to find the slightest “confirmation” of wrongdoing. There was way to much celebratory Black guy stuff after the win Saturday and that’s not including Wolfson drinking the Cammy Cam juice live on air.

  6. Ron Glover says:

    Mike and Mike went in heavy on the juice yesterday. Funny how people said there would never be anyone like Tebow again. We would’ve never heard of Tebow if Cam stayed at Florida.

  7. Temple3 says:

    kos:

    How can the QB of a 10-2 not be in the conversation for league MVP — given the history of the league in awarding that trophy to QBs? I don’t love Ryan in the least (14th in passer rating), but he’s only thrown 7 picks and he made plays to beat TB twice, Baltimore, and Green Bay. Where’s the love? That’s gotta get you in the conversation.

  8. Temple3 says:

    and to beat the Saints in New Orleans.

    He’s not the weak link he was in the chain last year when they lost to Dallas.

  9. kos says:

    T3 –

    You are right, he has to be in the convo. I just don’t see him as the most valuable player on his own team. That would be Roddy White. Also, I’ve thought for a long time that QB’s get way too much love for teams winning. (See Barry Sanders having to share the MVP award with Favre the year he had 2,006 rushing yards.)

    I’ll give Matty Ice his props for improving. But, throwing his name in the MVP race all of a sudden when it wasn’t there last week or before, I look at that as just a slap in the face to say, he’s the new face of the Falcons and also to prop up the Good vs. Evil angle.

  10. GrandNubian says:

    kos –

    Are you sure Roddy White is the most valuable to his team…or is it Michael Turner? Remember, we all saw last year what happened to the Birds when Turner got hurt.

  11. Miranda says:

    Those “columnists” (I use that term very loosely) that intentionally left Cam off their ballots are simply punk ass bitches. Nothing more, nothing less.

  12. kos says:

    Sorry, Barry had 2053 yards that season. I was thinking about Terrell Davis with 2008 yards one season.

    GN –

    Regardless, it’s still not Matty Ice! Actually, that would put him at #3 on his own team! :) I’d still say it’s Roddy White. With the season he’s had, teams have to pay attention to him. He basically has no one playing on the other side and is still getting yards. The #2 receiver on the team is Tony Gonzalez who has less than half the yards, and over 30 less catches! Teams have to respect Turner, so there’s no leaving a soft front where he can get yards. Yeah, I might have to re-think saying White is the MVP of the team, GN! ;)

  13. Temple3 says:

    Speaking of Matty Ice:
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/year/2010/week/14

    Miranda:

    That article on Rodgers and Cutler is interesting — but what the writer REALLY needed to do was have a conversation with Jaws and other people who proclaim that pocket passing is the only way to go, history and rings be damned.

  14. Temple3 says:

    Miranda:

    Actually — rather than interview Jaws, they should interview Plunkett. He could run. Jaws is an automatic DQ from any conversation about winning.

  15. Miranda says:

    I think Jaws has an aversion to “scrambling” because of his history. He could REALLY benefit from therapy about it.

  16. Origin says:

    1. Frazier has no power like many coaches. The owner makes the calls……..he is tied to his bum of a QB like Singletary (until Alex got hurt) and Lewis in Cincy. In the end these QBs will cost these coaches their jobs.

    The best bet for Frazier is if Farve gets knocked out of every game as he was last game. They are not running the table with Farve as the starter. And they are not scoring 38 pts in a game with Farve as the starter.

    The Farve situation only proves that these owners only care about ticket sales, ratings and the selling of merchandise. But sadly the fans will let their hate of someone like TJ to cloud their view of the situation.

    2. Peyton is what he is an immobile QB that needs everything around him to be perfect to succeed. He is not Mcnabb, he is not Vick, he is not Big Ben, He is not Elway, He is not Steve McNair/Young. He is exactly what he was at UT years ago.

    3. The associated press NFL MVP award is one of the biggest piece of garbage awards (besides the NBA MVP and Heisman) around.

    I never thought Vick would win the MVP (AP) and I still don’t. Its hard enough for a black QB with no checkered past to win MVP (AP). Let alone someone with the past of Vick’s. I knew at a young age that black QBs winning the MVP would always be an uphill battle. Even when Mcnair won it it was BS because he had to share it with Peyton.

    A QB passes for 33 TDs and runs for almost 900 yards while leading his team to the playoffs and still can’t get an MVP (AP) award. Then goes to another team and resurrects his career, leads his team to a 15-1 record and leads the league in QB rating all while throwing 34 TD passes and still can’t get an (AP) MVP award.

    Another QB in his first year as a starer throw for 33 tds run for 470 yards and 7 tds. Lead his team to a 11-5 record and still not win an (AP) MVP award.

    These 2 examples are Cunningham and Culpepper………if those guys couldn’t win an AP MVP with those amazing stats their is no way that Vick can.

    4. That black coaching stat doesn’t amaze me. The late Johnny Cochran pointed it out years ago that statistically black coaches had a hire winning percentage and were more likely to get there teams to the playoffs then their counterparts.

    5. These bastards are pissed because they know he will win the Heisman……thats what this has been all about. They couldn’t just cheat him out the Heisman like they did VY…..so they have to come up with some other type of shit. If his team was 6-6 or he wasn’t putting up great stats they wouldn’t care. But here is the thing these punks won’t vote for him when it comes to the Heisman. Yet they still are voting for Auburn as the number 1 or 2 team in the nation. Now how is that??? If you think Newton isn’t eligible then you can’t think that Auburn is the number 1 or 2 team in the nation. As sista Miranda said they are punk bitches……..but I will go further and say that they are a bunch of stank ass hoes.

    I wonder did these fools left Sanchez and Colt Brennen off the Heisman Ballot when they were in college because of their off the field issues.

    Another thing in 2005 USC was the number one team in the nation. Leinart had 28 passing TDs and 6 rushing TDs. He was invited to NY along with Bush for the Heisman presentation (Bush would go on and win the Heisman).

    Yet this year Oregon is the number 1 team. Darron Thomas has thrown for 28 TDs and has 5 rushing TDs. Yet he was not invited to NY only his RB….LaMichael James has been invited.

    More proof on how much the Heisman and other awards are total jokes. They just make up the rules as they go along.

    Hey everyone check out what Bomani Jones had to say about these punks taking Newton off the ballot.

    http://thescore.vo.llnwd.net/o25/score_radio/the-morning-jones-ep197-id1002.mp3?1291733655

  17. Origin says:

    @ Miranda – Yeah scrambling is the new fad as long as you are a golden boy. These dumb asses are a mess………if they knew their history they would know that the NFC North/Central has always had scramblers.

    From Bobby Douglas, young Brett Farve, Duante Culpepper, Jim Harbaugh, Don Majkowski, young Jim McMahon, Fran Tarkenton.
    Steve Young and Doug Williams.

    All these guys were scramblers and this is just off the top of my head.

  18. Origin says:

    Oh I see Shannahan has suspended Haynesworth for the rest of the season.

    Boy Shannahan is an idiot……….he could have traded that dude for a 3rd round pick earlier in the season. I don’t know if Shannahan is a genius………..he seems more like an idiot savant to me.

  19. Miranda says:

    I guess that silly ass rock guitarist that wrote that bs for espn condemning Vick musta caused some folks to run to nfl.com and VOTE for Vick to the ProBowl outta spite. I know I did. LOL, so thanks unknown guitarist that’s really a Giants fan tryna pretend to be some self-righteous dogooder. Vick was #2 in all probowl voting 2 weeks ago…now he is leading everybody by 40,000 votes.

  20. Origin says:

    What Miranda some guitar hero playing busta wrote some song about Vick???

    I didn’t know about that.

    These bustas need to get over Vick and Cam Newton. I swear these punks need to get a life or something.

  21. deesank43 says:

    Cam Newton should be the #1 pick. But if you’re the #1 pick you gotta play right away. I think the ideal situatuon for Newton is to sit for at least his first yr. Learn from a vet Also like any other Qb he has to go to the right situatuon and have teh right coaches to utilize his otherworldly talents.

  22. kos says:

    deesank43 –

    I heard some guys on some radio program talking about Cam’s prospects as a pro. They were saying that Cam is a 3rd-4th round pick. Something about bad footwork (Eli Manning anyone, as well as Peyton this year?), his release (Phillip Rivers), and questioned the system he’s played in at Auburn (Matt Leinhart, Tim Tebow).

    In no way do I see Cam not being a first rounder. The bad footwork critique has some legitimacy, but the rest are just a bunch of angry old white men who are mad because Cam is a game changer.

    Normally, I’d love to see Cam be the #1 pick. However, if he’s the #1 pick this year, he would most likely go to the Carolina Panthers. That’s not an ideal situation for a rookie QB.

    The owner sent out a letter the other day apologizing to the PSL/Season Ticket holders for the team’s play this season. John Fox, the lame duck coach didn’t know anything about the letter. The Panthers will definitely have a new coach whenever the next season starts.

    Add to that, their offensive line isn’t all that great. They are talking about letting DeAngelo Williams go. They’ll still have Jonathan Stewart, at least.

    The biggest problem with the Panthers, is that over the past couple of years, their only consistent receiver has been Steve Smith. Muhsin Muhammad was their only other consistent receiver over the last couple of years, and they let him leave to Chicago, brought him back, and he’s now retired.

    Oh, and the thing about letting a #1 pick sit for a year. That’s no longer the prevailing thought in the NFL with success from first rounders like Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman, etc. Now, if he goes to a bad team with no offensive line, it probably is the right thing to do. With the right coaches, team around him, he could start right away and be effective. Of course, we all know that also doesn’t happen very often with rookie QB’s.

  23. MODI says:

    Mir and O, That article on Rodgers and Cutler was BS…

    “You can probably guess who leads NFL quarterbacks in rushing yards. Yes, the Philadelphia Eagles’ Michael Vick stands atop that list. If your horizons extend beyond the NFC North, you might know that Josh Freeman of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ranks second.” (Enter Cutler and Rodgers here)

    Okay, I get the opening sentences on Vick. Fair enough. But why bypass Freeman as if he is some really well-known quantity? Seifert’s article clearly could and should have been about Rodger, Cutler, AND Freeman as other lesser-known QB’s who can run.

    Seifert should have at least had the decency to honestly title his article “White QB’s Who Can Also Scramble”

  24. deesank43 says:

    kos–

    The analysts who project Newton as anything but a top 10 pick are insane. Of course he needs to work on his footwork and mechanics. What college QB entering the NFL doesn’t. Im with you on the Carolina situation, that would be horrible for his development. There would be no suuporting cast. Also no veteran QB to learn from?
    Its such a risk playing a rookie QB his first year. More failures thatn success stories.

  25. Origin says:

    @Miranda – you see this interview? I try not to even go on their website………but I had to in order to see this interview.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5903485

  26. Miranda says:

    Good for Cam….haters can KICK ROCKS!

  27. Nona Mills says:

    Speaking of Matty Ice: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/year/2010/week/14 Miranda: That article on Rodgers and Cutler is interesting — but what the writer REALLY needed to do was have a conversation with Jaws and other people who proclaim that pocket passing is the only way to go, history and rings be damned.

  28. Carrie Lowe says:

    deesank43 – I heard some guys on some radio program talking about Cam’s prospects as a pro. They were saying that Cam is a 3rd-4th round pick. Something about bad footwork (Eli Manning anyone, as well as Peyton this year?), his release (Phillip Rivers), and questioned the system he’s played in at Auburn (Matt Leinhart, Tim Tebow). In no way do I see Cam not being a first rounder. The bad footwork critique has some legitimacy, but the rest are just a bunch of angry old white men who are mad because Cam is a game changer. Normally, I’d love to see Cam be the #1 pick. However, if he’s the #1 pick this year, he would most likely go to the Carolina Panthers. That’s not an ideal situation for a rookie QB. The owner sent out a letter the other day apologizing to the PSL/Season Ticket holders for the team’s play this season. John Fox, the lame duck coach didn’t know anything about the letter. The Panthers will definitely have a new coach whenever the next season starts. Add to that, their offensive line isn’t all that great. They are talking about letting DeAngelo Williams go. They’ll still have Jonathan Stewart, at least. The biggest problem with the Panthers, is that over the past couple of years, their only consistent receiver has been Steve Smith. Muhsin Muhammad was their only other consistent receiver over the last couple of years, and they let him leave to Chicago, brought him back, and he’s now retired. Oh, and the thing about letting a #1 pick sit for a year. That’s no longer the prevailing thought in the NFL with success from first rounders like Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman, etc. Now, if he goes to a bad team with no offensive line, it probably is the right thing to do. With the right coaches, team around him, he could start right away and be effective. Of course, we all know that also doesn’t happen very often with rookie QB’s.

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