Heat wallop Pacers 115-83 behind LeBron James and Dwyane Wade (hard foul commentary and with TNT notes)

(AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Should the league suspend Haslem for this foul?

Growing up and seeing how physical the NBA was in the 80’s and 90’s, last night didn’t phase me. I don’t care how the NBA has cut down on physical play because of the Malace in the Palace (Metta World Peace explains what happened at length).

The NBA is a physical sport and that’s why fouls are called. Things will happen from time to time especially in the playoffs where familiarity definitely breeds contempt. No need for the media and fans to overreact in a society that thrives on physical confrontation in and outside of sports (car wrecks, hockey fights, bean balls, football hits, brawls in the stands (see hockey vid link), MMA, thirst for boxing knockouts). Please don’t turn basketball into this pansy sport where everyone and their Moms will be permitted to waltz down the lane and throw it down your throat like Barkley. I’m not condoning players putting opponents down with the intent of hindering them from continuing their careers, but just like in any other sport, if you go after a team’s star player, you should expect retaliation. Put your head on a swivel as soon as you leave the scorer’s table. The hard fouls are part of playoff basketball…especially when refs seem to swallow whistles the minute the NBA regular season ends. Dexter Pittman’s elbow to Lance Stephenson (regular season interview posted with him soon) was over the line but Lance knows damn well why he caught the shiver and it’s a major reason why he didn’t go down. His pride wouldn’t let him and most definitely he knows the rules. Simple as this: The Pacers came into the series with the intent of intimidating the Heat. Why not try it? Miami was the prohibitive favorite. Huge talent disparity (superstars) right? Do what you have to do to get in Miami’s head and get that win. Danny Granger was the catalyst (ankle injury pretty much wraps it up for Miami) . It no longer worked after Miami got sick of it in Game 3. Now Indiana is the hunted. We’ll see how the crowd and the Pacers respond in Game 6.

The NBA Western Conference Finals on TNT will begin Sunday, May 27, at 8 p.m. ET when the San Antonio Spurs host the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 1 of the best-of-seven series.

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TNT NBA Tip-off presented by AutoTrader.com

Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O’Neal and Kenny Smith


Barkley on Heat forward LeBron James: “If Miami Heat are going to win the championship, he’s got to be the leader because he makes everyone better.”




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Indiana Pacers (83) @ Miami Heat (115) – Miami leads the series 3-2



Announcers: Marv Albert (play-by-play) and Steve Kerr (analyst) with Craig Sager (reporter)


Kerr on the Heat’s aggressiveness: “Since that Game 3 loss, the Heat have realized they had to play faster and with more of a sense of urgency. They are on edge now and it is showing in their sense of activity on offense.”


Kerr on the increased level of physicality of the Pacers/Heat series: “I think it is a sign of where this series is. This is a sign that Miami actually takes Indiana seriously, I don’t think they did for the first couple games of the series. Now they know they are in for a fight…literally.”


Kerr on Stan Van Gundy being fired as head coach of the Orlando Magic: “If I need a coach, I’m getting on the phone with Stan Van Gundy. He is one of the best in the league. I’m not sure if he wants to get right back into it but, if he does, he should have plenty of opportunities.”




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Sprint Halftime Report

Johnson, Barkley, O’Neal and Smith


O’Neal on Haslem’s flagrant foul against Hansbrough: “I respect UD for sticking up for his teammates. That is old school basketball like we used to do.”


Smith on the Miami Heat in Game 5: “Overall, defensively Miami is better [tonight]. Their hands are active; their bodies are active which is getting them fast breaks.”




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Kerr on the injury to Pacers forward Danny Granger: “Granger is huge for this team. Granger’s ankle is of utmost importance to this team. He is their best three-point shooter.”


Kerr on Miami feeling the pressure to perform at home during the Playoffs: “I think a lot of teams playing at home in the Playoffs feel that pressure a little more. You can feel the anxiety of 20,000 people in the building. But when you are on the road, you tend to be a little looser, play a little faster. With all the scrutiny that Miami has received over the years, there is no doubt that they feel that extra heat.”


Kerr on Heat guard Dwyane Wade’s offensive ability: “He is so acrobatic and strong and elusive when he gets to the rim. That is Wade at his best.”


Kerr on Heat forward LeBron James: “He’s been phenomenal in this series. I thought in a weird way that when the focus was on Dwyane Wade in a couple of games it took the pressure off LeBron and he was able to just play.”


Kerr on Pacers Danny Granger not returning to Game 5 due to the ankle injury: “He’s their leader. For a young club…when their leader goes down on the road, Game 5…that is tough to bounce back from.”


Kerr on Haslem being fined for the flagrant foul against Hansbrough: “The more I think about it and the more replays that I’ve seen; I would be shocked if Haslem is playing in Game 6. When you think about [Metta] World Peace getting suspended seven games for the elbow to the head [of James Harden], this was arguably just as dangerous. I’m guessing he is suspended for the next game.”


Kerr on the Heat’s defensive prowess: “I think that is what makes this team so scary. It is not just Wade and James offensively and their potential. It is the defense. Any team this deep in the playoffs has to have the ability to make four or five stops in a row during a game. We have seen it with the Spurs and with Oklahoma City, that’s why these teams are here.”


Kerr on Indiana losing to Miami by 32 points: “We will get to see how this young team responds [for Game 6]. This is such a valuable experience for a young team. You get to see the ups and downs of a playoff experience. This team is stunned by the onslaught of this Miami team.”




TNT’s Cheryl Miller interviewed Heat guard Dwyane Wade after the team’s 32-point win


Wade on his performance in Game 5: “I felt good today. I was in a groove and I let the game come to me. No question this was a total team effort but it is good for me to get two games in a row like this.”


Wade on Game 6: “Game 6 is going to be physical. This team has a lot of pride, their crowd is going to be ready and they are going to come out with a lot of energy. I think we are ready for that but we’ll see.”




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Inside the NBA presented by Hyundai

Johnson, Barkley, O’Neal and Smith


Barkley on hard fouls: “I have no problem with hard fouls but when you can actually hurt somebody, that’s when you cross the line. I’ve hit guys because I didn’t want them to get a basket, and I was trying to knock the hell out of them, but I know that I can’t hurt them.”

8 Responses to “Heat wallop Pacers 115-83 behind LeBron James and Dwyane Wade (hard foul commentary and with TNT notes)”

  1. Ben says:

    If the league has rules on the books they’re obligated to enforce them. How things were done “in the past” is of no consequence if the rules have been altered. The standards of the 1970’s 80’s and 90’s are no longer in effect. We can debate whether that’s “good” or “bad” for the league but what we can’t debate is whether or not the rules have changed. They have, and under the current guidelines and standards both Haslem and Pittman should be suspended.

  2. Ben isn’t that my entire point that it’s bad for the league?

  3. Origin says:

    Haslem being suspended is a case of the rules changing and what ever the media wants the media gets.

    It was over for Haslem once Barkley, Kerr and ESPN starting talking about it over and over. The funny part about it was that Pittman’s act was far worse and he only got 2 more games than Haslem.

    As for Kerr he is a bitch……for him to compare Haslem’s hit to Metta’s elbow was dishonest and as bush league as the flagrant fouls he was crying over. But Barkley is a straight up hypocrite, during the Memphis series he was saying that the Clippers needed to take some hard fouls on the Grizz because they were beating up on Blake.

    Anyway the league will be happy the heat will lose in Indy and they will get a game 7 where 10 million folks will watch hoping the heat lose against the pacers in a game 7.

    Also the hit by Haslem looked worse than it actually was due to the fact that psycho T does everything dramatically. He is dramatic rebounding the ball, going up with the ball, dribbling and etc. He flails his arms all the time and basically is out of control 90% of the time. On the hit Haslem grazed his face but hit mostly his shoulders.

  4. Origin says:

    Mizzo I agree with every point you made in this post.

    All this shit talking and hard fouls was good cause it was happening to the heat who the media and fans hate. When Granger was getting in folks face and talking shit it was “good stand up for yourself”. While Lebron and Wade have to watch what they say and do on and off the court (playing with one hand tied behind their back) because they get no breaks from the media.

    But as soon as the Heat got tired of it and hit back now they are the bullies. The media is as ignorant and childish as these sheep fans.

  5. MODI says:

    agree all the way miz and O, but why wouldn’t I… I’m from the Oakley and Mason school of ball…

    But I agree that if every other sport can be “self-regulating” to a degree, why can’t basketball? Well, we know why…

  6. DN says:

    1. MWP got suspended. So should this purposeful hit. If you enforce the rules with one, then do it with everybody. And get better trained refs.

    2. Where should the line be drawn?

    3. Do you think there is any possibility there’s “bounty” ?

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