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	<title>Comments on: In Game 6, Miami beats Boston 98-79: In the clutch, LeBron James goes Wilt Chamberlain 45-15-5 (mostly commentary)</title>
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		<title>By: The era of Allen, Garnett and Pierce comes to a close: Bosh, LeBron and Wade take the East, 101-88 &#124; The Starting Five</title>
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		<dc:creator>The era of Allen, Garnett and Pierce comes to a close: Bosh, LeBron and Wade take the East, 101-88 &#124; The Starting Five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] said it all about LeBron after Game 6. I had to go hard on the ridiculous reaction to this dude&#8230;but we all know what he is now. I&#8217;ve noticed a shift in narrative. Maybe [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] said it all about LeBron after Game 6. I had to go hard on the ridiculous reaction to this dude&#8230;but we all know what he is now. I&#8217;ve noticed a shift in narrative. Maybe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tillery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tillery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Banner! LOLOL Yeah he is that dude. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=MKGQ5cIw_ew&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like a pimp...&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLOeDJcQv4&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slooooooooow Dowwwwwwn...&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Banner! LOLOL Yeah he is that dude. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&#038;feature=endscreen&#038;v=MKGQ5cIw_ew" rel="nofollow">Like a pimp&#8230;</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLOeDJcQv4&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">Slooooooooow Dowwwwwwn&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Mizzo -- Bruce Banner. LOL. 

David Banner is that dude, tho.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mizzo &#8212; Bruce Banner. LOL. </p>
<p>David Banner is that dude, tho.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://thestartingfive.net/2012/06/08/in-game-6-miami-beats-boston-98-79-in-the-clutch-lebron-james-goes-wilt-chamberlain-45-15-5-mostly-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-85125</link>
		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Martin:

I couldn&#039;t agree more. You absolutely hit the nail on the head. 

I would love to see him commit to playing like that for 2 weeks --- let&#039;s see what happens. Commit to domination...out and out domination...no holds barred. 

I suppose he does play with a great deal of restraint. And, with that said, nothing bothers me more (with respect to his &quot;case&quot;) than that Game 4 loss last year when he shot 3-11 and scored 8 points. I know that Wade (32 pts) and Bosh (24 pts) had it going, but that was the series. They would have been up 3-1 and that should have been enough. I still don&#039;t think the best team won...but that&#039;s me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Martin:</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. You absolutely hit the nail on the head. </p>
<p>I would love to see him commit to playing like that for 2 weeks &#8212; let&#8217;s see what happens. Commit to domination&#8230;out and out domination&#8230;no holds barred. </p>
<p>I suppose he does play with a great deal of restraint. And, with that said, nothing bothers me more (with respect to his &#8220;case&#8221;) than that Game 4 loss last year when he shot 3-11 and scored 8 points. I know that Wade (32 pts) and Bosh (24 pts) had it going, but that was the series. They would have been up 3-1 and that should have been enough. I still don&#8217;t think the best team won&#8230;but that&#8217;s me.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MT, I did read that post about LeBron and I loved that he played football in high school and so that made me always wonder why he does the soccer flop in basketball unlike AI who would just brush himself off... 

And KS as far as the hulk comic narrative, I admit I am influenced by tv and movies but in the end I think (again without reading the comic books) the analogy works in that LeBron&#039;s monster game when he is pushed to that extreme is so scary (like the enraged hulk) that folk don&#039;t know how to act...the garden&#039;s silence was unlike anything I&#039;ve seen and the fan dousing him was like a futile attempt to stop the &quot;monster&quot;...I mean who does that???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT, I did read that post about LeBron and I loved that he played football in high school and so that made me always wonder why he does the soccer flop in basketball unlike AI who would just brush himself off&#8230; </p>
<p>And KS as far as the hulk comic narrative, I admit I am influenced by tv and movies but in the end I think (again without reading the comic books) the analogy works in that LeBron&#8217;s monster game when he is pushed to that extreme is so scary (like the enraged hulk) that folk don&#8217;t know how to act&#8230;the garden&#8217;s silence was unlike anything I&#8217;ve seen and the fan dousing him was like a futile attempt to stop the &#8220;monster&#8221;&#8230;I mean who does that???</p>
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		<title>By: RBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People have harped on two LBJ comments made after Game 5. 
1) &quot;We played well enough to be in position to win, and that&#039;s all you can ask.&quot; (or something like that)
That one&#039;s ill-advised. Actually, you can ask for more than credibility; you should expect to win. That sort of comment, generally speaking, won&#039;t play well. 
2) Something along the lines of &quot;the sun&#039;s going to come up tomorrow.&quot; I find it silly for people to bash him on this one. Maybe such a statement signifies that LBJ is simply a well balanced person. It doesn&#039;t necessarily say he&#039;s less motivated or less interested than the next guy. What, exactly, do people want? A suicide threat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have harped on two LBJ comments made after Game 5.<br />
1) &#8220;We played well enough to be in position to win, and that&#8217;s all you can ask.&#8221; (or something like that)<br />
That one&#8217;s ill-advised. Actually, you can ask for more than credibility; you should expect to win. That sort of comment, generally speaking, won&#8217;t play well.<br />
2) Something along the lines of &#8220;the sun&#8217;s going to come up tomorrow.&#8221; I find it silly for people to bash him on this one. Maybe such a statement signifies that LBJ is simply a well balanced person. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily say he&#8217;s less motivated or less interested than the next guy. What, exactly, do people want? A suicide threat?</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Head-2-Head: Four Games (2-2)

KD: 30, 7.5, 4.5, 50% FG, 79% FT
LBJ: 23, 5.5, 8.25, 45% FG, 78% FT

High Game: KD - 33 points; Low Game: KD - 28 points
High Game: LBJ - 34 points; Low Game: LBJ - 17 points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Head-2-Head: Four Games (2-2)</p>
<p>KD: 30, 7.5, 4.5, 50% FG, 79% FT<br />
LBJ: 23, 5.5, 8.25, 45% FG, 78% FT</p>
<p>High Game: KD &#8211; 33 points; Low Game: KD &#8211; 28 points<br />
High Game: LBJ &#8211; 34 points; Low Game: LBJ &#8211; 17 points.</p>
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		<title>By: ks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LP,

Cool.   The rebounding was close this year but I&#039;m not sure how you could contextualize the assist difference.  In any event, they are both great players and if Miami beats Boston we&#039;ll see but I think it will be more of a team thing than a LBJ vs. KD thing.  OKC will be favored over either team. 

BTW, in the comic book world the Hulk narrative is that Banner is often the Monster while the Hulk is the one looking for peace.  Heh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP,</p>
<p>Cool.   The rebounding was close this year but I&#8217;m not sure how you could contextualize the assist difference.  In any event, they are both great players and if Miami beats Boston we&#8217;ll see but I think it will be more of a team thing than a LBJ vs. KD thing.  OKC will be favored over either team. </p>
<p>BTW, in the comic book world the Hulk narrative is that Banner is often the Monster while the Hulk is the one looking for peace.  Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tillery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tillery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah Martin. David Banner fits. Do you all remember the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestartingfive.net/2009/01/06/friday-fire-answer-from-lebron-james/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;football interview&lt;/a&gt; I did with LeBron? 

It bothered me he didn&#039;t want to be the quarterback. Still does.

Poet like I said, if Miami does get to the Finals and the young KD outplays dude, I&#039;ll change my stance. I think we will also see KD in a different light defensively because of LeBron&#039;s presence. This is where Durant needs to be. I&#039;m glad he&#039;s on this level now. Good for him and definitely for the game. Proud of my man Mo Cheeks too. Get a job MO! lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Martin. David Banner fits. Do you all remember the <a href="http://thestartingfive.net/2009/01/06/friday-fire-answer-from-lebron-james/" rel="nofollow">football interview</a> I did with LeBron? </p>
<p>It bothered me he didn&#8217;t want to be the quarterback. Still does.</p>
<p>Poet like I said, if Miami does get to the Finals and the young KD outplays dude, I&#8217;ll change my stance. I think we will also see KD in a different light defensively because of LeBron&#8217;s presence. This is where Durant needs to be. I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s on this level now. Good for him and definitely for the game. Proud of my man Mo Cheeks too. Get a job MO! lol</p>
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		<title>By: TheLastPoet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLastPoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ks,

my brother I&#039;ve written several comments under different posts in which I&#039;ve defended KD&#039;s rebounding and passing acumen v. Lebron. I&#039;m sure you haven&#039;t read them, nevertheless I&#039;d rather not bore everyone else by repeating all that here.

Still, I&#039;m glad that you and other commentators are finally picking up the gauntlet I threw down several posts ago when I proclaimed the young kid to be better than David Banner (I like that analogy, too).

Anyway it&#039;s almost to the point now where we will no longer have to speculate, but rather if Miami can defeat Boston tomorrow, then like T3 said, &quot;we&#039;ll see when we see&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ks,</p>
<p>my brother I&#8217;ve written several comments under different posts in which I&#8217;ve defended KD&#8217;s rebounding and passing acumen v. Lebron. I&#8217;m sure you haven&#8217;t read them, nevertheless I&#8217;d rather not bore everyone else by repeating all that here.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m glad that you and other commentators are finally picking up the gauntlet I threw down several posts ago when I proclaimed the young kid to be better than David Banner (I like that analogy, too).</p>
<p>Anyway it&#8217;s almost to the point now where we will no longer have to speculate, but rather if Miami can defeat Boston tomorrow, then like T3 said, &#8220;we&#8217;ll see when we see&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant! Love that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant! Love that.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My take on LeBron comes with a analogy to the David Banner/ The Incredible Hulk alter ego thing...You see Dr. Banner just wants to find a peaceful existence and only becomes the Hulk when pushed.  LeBron&#039;s effort as grand as it was does not make him happy. He played with no joy last night and I suspect even after the game he felt empty.  He rather play a game where he is more of a facilitator and not be pushed exposing all his dark demons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on LeBron comes with a analogy to the David Banner/ The Incredible Hulk alter ego thing&#8230;You see Dr. Banner just wants to find a peaceful existence and only becomes the Hulk when pushed.  LeBron&#8217;s effort as grand as it was does not make him happy. He played with no joy last night and I suspect even after the game he felt empty.  He rather play a game where he is more of a facilitator and not be pushed exposing all his dark demons.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ks:

It&#039;s hard to say what a guy can do when he has lots of help. In other words, I don&#039;t what Durant&#039;s capacity is as a rebounder playing alongside Ibaka and Perkins while spending most of his offensive time around the perimeter. Dude still managed to average more per game than LBJ. I don&#039;t know that this means a damned thing. 

Same for LBJ&#039;s assists. He totes the rock much more than Durant and has a special passing game in his repertoire, but Durant should not be averaging 6 assists per game in his role. That he averages 4 is plenty to me. 

Last 2 years, KD has outscored LBJ by a decent margin, and snagged more boards. Small sample size -- 4 games. 2-2. 

We&#039;ll see when we see, as long as MIA does the deed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ks:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say what a guy can do when he has lots of help. In other words, I don&#8217;t what Durant&#8217;s capacity is as a rebounder playing alongside Ibaka and Perkins while spending most of his offensive time around the perimeter. Dude still managed to average more per game than LBJ. I don&#8217;t know that this means a damned thing. </p>
<p>Same for LBJ&#8217;s assists. He totes the rock much more than Durant and has a special passing game in his repertoire, but Durant should not be averaging 6 assists per game in his role. That he averages 4 is plenty to me. </p>
<p>Last 2 years, KD has outscored LBJ by a decent margin, and snagged more boards. Small sample size &#8212; 4 games. 2-2. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see when we see, as long as MIA does the deed.</p>
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		<title>By: ks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LP,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I still got KD – but not because he’s the league’s golden boy right now. We all know how quickly that perception can change – I think KD knows it, too. No, I got KD because I think he’s a better player, and I have always thought he’s a better player. And although you insinuated the KD don’t want none of Lebron in the Finals, I beg to differ. In fact, I think it’s vice versa. KD has shown a willingness to work together with his teammates to take on ALL COMERS, whereas Lebron has yet to show this level of desire or this level of togetherness, not consistently (and the togetherness not at all).

I know I’m not wrong about this.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I understand that you seem to like KD more than Lebron and that&#039;s cool because KD is great but, on what objective basis do you think he&#039;s a better player?   He&#039;s a better scorer but not by much primarily because he&#039;s a lot better free throw shooter and a bit better 3pt shooter than Lebron.  Lebron is a better defender, passer and rebounder. 

I think the togetherness angle is subjective and a tad unfair.  I don&#039;t think anybody has complained about Lebron as a teammate but the big difference is that, unlike Lebron in Cleveland, KD has a great organization who understands how to develop talent and put a team together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I still got KD – but not because he’s the league’s golden boy right now. We all know how quickly that perception can change – I think KD knows it, too. No, I got KD because I think he’s a better player, and I have always thought he’s a better player. And although you insinuated the KD don’t want none of Lebron in the Finals, I beg to differ. In fact, I think it’s vice versa. KD has shown a willingness to work together with his teammates to take on ALL COMERS, whereas Lebron has yet to show this level of desire or this level of togetherness, not consistently (and the togetherness not at all).</p>
<p>I know I’m not wrong about this.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I understand that you seem to like KD more than Lebron and that&#8217;s cool because KD is great but, on what objective basis do you think he&#8217;s a better player?   He&#8217;s a better scorer but not by much primarily because he&#8217;s a lot better free throw shooter and a bit better 3pt shooter than Lebron.  Lebron is a better defender, passer and rebounder. </p>
<p>I think the togetherness angle is subjective and a tad unfair.  I don&#8217;t think anybody has complained about Lebron as a teammate but the big difference is that, unlike Lebron in Cleveland, KD has a great organization who understands how to develop talent and put a team together.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LP just wants to be proven RIGHT!!! 

:) 

ROTFLMBAO!! Don&#039;t we all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP just wants to be proven RIGHT!!! </p>
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<p>ROTFLMBAO!! Don&#8217;t we all.</p>
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