Tip-Off for 8/17/12 (featuring Cypress Hill): Note to Bud Selig: Just legalize it man

(AJC.com)

Nevermnind Bud, you never wanted to hear the truth anyway!

I’m at the end of the line when it comes to the subject of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball.

Melky Cabrera’s recent positive test for testosterone and BALCO founder Victor Conte’s wild (but possibly accurate) guess that as much as 50 percent of Major League Baseball players may be some form of PED has put the white flag in my hand. I’ve decided that Bud Selig should do what he’s always done and ignore those who have chosen to take extra measures to become “better” ballplayers.

 

(Steroids.info)

I’m convinced Victor Conte knows more about PEDs in baseball than Bud Selig

As ridiculous as Victor Conte’s estimation sounds, I believe him. Remember when Jose Canseco dropped his book ‘Juiced’ and we all laughed at who we thought was a bitter player? The score card told the story, Canseco hit an inside the park home run as baseball fumbled around in Congressional Hearings and baseball owner’s meetings.

While MLB commissioner Bud Selig struck out looking.

After baseball botched Ryan Braun’s drug test last winter, I began to lean towards the idea of just letting these players take their careers into their own hands. After hearing Conte’s words yesterday, I’m almost certain that this is what needs to be done.

“I’m not going to name names,” Conte said, “but I’ve talked to a lot of top players in Major League Baseball, and they tell me this is what they’re doing. There is rampant use of synthetic testosterone in Major League Baseball.” And despite baseball’s claim as having the strictest of drug programs in all of sports, Conte attests that baseball has been fooled before and will ultimately be fooled again.

“To circumvent the test is like taking candy from a baby. It’s so easy to circumvent. I call it the ‘duck-and-dodge’ system. The only people that get caught are the dumb, and the dumber.”

Says a lot about Melky Cabrera - more about the MLB powers that be.

Baseball is a sport that clings to a past, viewing it as something pristine, but it’s nowhere as close to that. It’s been a barometer of times in this nation and let’s face it, we live in a drug reliant society. As Michael Tillery said in his New York Times piece Overscheduled Pros Could Use a Boost, HGH can have major health benefits when used properly:

“Baseball seems to be the remaining core sport marketing itself on the statistical accomplishment of its classic legends. The game is different now, and while baseball historians continue to hold on to the past for whatever reason, the athletic world is quickly moving into a future where natural and synthetic advancements are an inevitable reality.

If H.G.H. is legalized, and records fall because of player longevity, many might counter that athletes are no longer role models. But what about athletes’ bodies, and additionally, their stamina? If television contracts put more games before global eyes, athletes will be pressed to travel and play more.

If medicine is available, why not use its benefits to give fans more joy for a longer time?”

If you’re not taking Gehrig and Ruth out, why not put Bonds and Clemens in.

The Lineup:

Mine clashes in South Africa leave 34 dead  (BBC).

Promoting education and peace in Camden, NJ (Courier Post Online).

Matt Ryan already knows the answer to that (NFL Football News).

Iman Shumpert targeting a January return (Pro Basketball Talk).

Bengals TE Jermaine Gresham ok after knee scare (Wild Thing Football).

NHL negotiations at the crossroads (Yahoo).

Chad Johnson’s daughter chimes in (In Flex We Trust).

Andy Reid talks about rookie backup Nick Foles (Pro Football Talk).

38 Suspected Army suicides in July (NBC).

Tra Thomas retired as an Eagle yesterday (Eagles Insider).

 

Cypress Hill!

17 Responses to “Tip-Off for 8/17/12 (featuring Cypress Hill): Note to Bud Selig: Just legalize it man”

  1. Modds says:

    I agree with everything that was written above. That’s the good stuff.

  2. Keon R. says:

    I don’t know man. I see your point but this stuff always has a trickle down effect. If the pros do it, how long until college and high school kids do it? No matter how “safe” H.G.H it still has an adverse effect on the development of young adults. It’s hard to regulate. How do you tell kids not to do it, when the guys in the majors are?

  3. Medical advancements will inevitably happen. Has to be regulated just like anything else but to say these cats shouldn’t have opportunities to prolong their physical health is outrageous. We are a ways off before this becomes a reality, but when that happens and technology catches up, get on it.

    Could you link me to proof of adverse affect in childhood development? When I ask that question, in no way am I saying proof doesn’t exist.

  4. Mapoui says:

    drugs affect the breed.

    its like american horses now, so fragile from PED’s and selective breeding over generations..for one dominant factor of racing…SPEEd… that horses fall and die all the time.

    all biology is subject to random change by environmental conditions. but to deliberately add PEDs as regular fare, is surely a Pandora here..a factor beyond control, that may or may not change the human constitution in ways not helpful at all

    50/50 is no choice when it comes this way. let the technology focus on diet/nutrition, training, knowledge of human biology from that angle to make improvements.

    all of this PED business is for winning. why wud it not suprise me if men and woman started looking for wives and husbands according to scientifically worked out human pedigree, to try produce whatever kind of star performer child they would like to have

    why not in vitro and womb manipulation to produce performance enhanced players, who would need no PEDs while alive and so by-pass drug rules.

    then we would need rules for mutants in sports..to prevent..or to create a seperate league for them.

    where does it stop..and it can start very early, before the point of conception depending on what potential parents are looking for.

    its cool to screen people to prevent the coming together of deleterious genes in off-spring, that prevent life-long debilating deseases, or complicatins that lead to early death.

    but when it comes to PEDs, at all times the breed, humans, the mould.. is under some sort of pressure, exerted by drives not really essential, like the need to win at all costs.

    if we have to tolerate that drive to win, we shud contain it within known safe borders..like all we can do to win that do involve the use PEDs of any kind.

    to legalise PED’s in baseball is to set the base for legalisation in all sports. the furthest I can go is that it is way too early yet. we dont know. players, men and women will go into life and have families etc.

    and the manufacturers of all such products are manifestely, demonstrably un-trustworthy… to the most extreme degree imaginable

    the rules against PEDs shud be made more comprehensive and stringent, if only to protect the over-ambitious from themslves and society from their actions.

    the integrity of the human constitution must be maintained at all costs. we must know all that is possible before we do, when it comes to all these PEDs.

    its time to wait..not to pluge ahead like bulls in china shop

  5. RBD says:

    Slippery slope here. As others have said, legalizing any of this stuff sets a dangerous precedent for other sports. And not all sports are the same. In the NFL, for example, do we really want to tolerate any chemical supplement that makes players stronger when we are beginning to learn the danger of head trauma in the game?

  6. sankofa says:

    I for one care nothing about Victor Cunt and his self promotion. He is an opportunistic pig, despite his knowledge. He is only doing this because he misses the light. As for athletic enhancement it will be here as long as it has been around…and it’s been around along time.

    And on all levels. I am not even going to address the idea of legalization, because as it stands now the organizations will support it clandestinely, but will disavow any knowledge if it comes to light. Plus they profit from it without paying for it and that’s always the bottom line. Profit. That’s why combat sports such as Boxing doesn’t kiss a rats ass about it and the NFL while seemingly more vigilant than Baseball, will always have to because of the nature of the sport.

    Like weed…unless this people figure how to profit from it above the table, like alcohol and cigarette, rest assured it will be legalized. Adults involved in sports organizations and most others outside of the players care less about the long term or short term effects of chemical enhancement, because the players are disposable. though i can’t over stand base ball players using that shit. It’s not like they are athletic or anything…cats are hurting themselves sneezing or reaching for their socks…smdh!

  7. mapoui says:

    very true on the profits Sankofa. and baseball is indeed now powder puff

    but if this stuff is legalized it will turn a class of people.. athletes…into official guinea pigs.

    human sports will become an open sewer of drugs and experimentation by scientists, manufacturers and athletes..your perfect eugenics laboratory

    there is no doubt about that. human sports will head for the same place now inhabited by horse racing..the human pedigree debased like equine

    the small barriers that are there should be upgraded to eliminate all PED’s from sports.

    that’s the way I look at it. and it is saving people from themselves, keeping the pedigree strong the issue is far greater than just one section of life

  8. I’m more interested in HGH studies. We all are well aware of steroid side effects.

  9. Elijah says:

    Legalizing HGH and steroids would be stupid and unfair. You would put clean players in the position of having to poison their bodies just to remain competitive. Not a righteous move. And anybody who thinks that HGH/steroids are comparable to the lifts provided back in the day by “greenies” or whatever is just plain insane.

  10. Elijah says:

    There’s plenty of studies of the detrimental effects of HGH. Just search PubMed. A summary can be found at http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/human-growth-hormone-hgh

  11. You all are missing the point. This is about recovery. Period. Because of the money we here at TSF never talks about (pick up the Wall Street Journal, this is a sports site), fans expect athletes to play out their careers and go hard for fans because fans pay their salaries (not accurate). When athletic careers end, the health problems begin. Football players are dying in their 50′s. To say…as many will…that’s what they signed up for is bs. Their health is a serious concern. This is nothing about creating superhuman athletes running roughshod over the “integrity” of professional sports. Open up your minds and see yourselves and the welfare of your families in their shoes. This is also more about the future.

  12. mapoui says:

    one time ago I spoke about stuyding tackling in football by way of preventing injury. no one seemed interested!

    brutality seems an essential component in the attraction of football.

    but for me its is athleticism, strategy, tactics, clutch play and so on. I remember to this day as clear as light stupendous catches by Preston Pearson and Butch Johnson to win games for the Cowboys in pressure situations.

    also the play of Kellen Winslow and OJ Simpson and others likewise have stuck.

    these are among the may facts I find valuable if Football, truly interesting in football..as in all sport. sbut for me the brutality is not at all attractive and it should be eliminated.

    in play on the field that means a full understanding of the consequences of constant physical pressure on the body and the development of playmindful of that fact…that mininises such effect or eliminates it.

    if such level of play is possiblein football, it should be sought…or football should be eliminated as a sport if it is impossible to eliminate that aspect of it.

    that to me is quite plain: if a game..or anything at all.. is a problem, causes much deleterious effect that cannot be finessed out of the process then we ought to stop doing it.

    if we continue to do it just for money..which the players cannot live to enjoy it..what is the point?

    the only people who win/profit are those who own and patrol the sidelines. the players are sacrificial.

    football is a brutal game and it should be viewed as I have described..with a intent to finess..or eliminating it.

    hockey is another stupid game from the players point of view…full of unnecesssry brutality the players inflict on themselves that adds nothing to the game for me.

    in the days of Bobby Orr hockey was a pleasure to watch most times, hardly aas much violence as today whch is epidemic. I stopped watching back in the ninties

    football players have won much for themsleves in terms of labour relations. but they are the victims/casualties of the brutality in the game, so it is time they looked at the game overall to see basically what can be done, how to evolve the game to elimimate the tremendous physical pressure on their bodies so thay can live on afterwards

    its pointless to me otherwise..from the players angle

  13. mapoui says:

    did I chase everybody off this thread. am I way out of it to speak as I have….or is it very hard to contemplate the end of the NFL…no more football?

    to ease the chronic aches, pains, physically miserable and short lives of former players, would we legalise a drug regimen of PED’s?

    that is where the argument leads.

    PEDs it appears would make the plight of the players worse for they would be exhausted faster, depleted and shunted aside in quick time.

    looks like we have a mess here… a kind of paradox that is quite unnecessary… built on the back of profit with all its attendant human evils of greed, fame, drive to succeed etc..which of course hides extreme capitalist exploitation of the human body in professional sport.

    we are human and we must play human games humanely. the max physical improvement we can achieve within those limits seems fair game to me. going outside it is ill..fully product of and part of the profit mindset that is celebrity at the moment.

    we have seen where that leads and what it has produced. it wont be long now

  14. Excellent points, but as TV exposure and travel time increases, the game becomes inhumane. Everything is sped up. The players will need relief.

  15. mapoui says:

    EXACTLY..FINESSING THE GAME..PROPER TACKLING..IMPROVING TACKLING TO EFFECTIVELY STOP A PLAY BUT STOP OR HARM THE PLAYER.

    ALONG WITH RULES THAT BLOW A PLAY DEAD AT PROPER POINTS THAT PREVENT INJURY

    if that is possible within the nature of the game then go for it..eliminate the brutality..emphsise the athleticism…

    also cut the games back..drop the number of games teams play. injury and exhaustion kills the quality of competiton.

    less can mean more. high quality play can enhance the game in ways that may realise more revenue in a shorter space of time.

    as far as I am concerned the players come first..their health. and the fans who pay to see excellent play. the game makes no sense other wise.

    the profit of owners means absolutely nutten. they are the least essential part of the game. in fact they are not essential at all…yet everythng flows the way they want it to flow.

    what a disastrous waste of time

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